Just Lay Back And Enjoy It

You might think that feminists, especially the militant hairy-legged manhater types, would advocate that women buy guns and learn how to use them. To update the old saying, “God created men and women, but Samuel Colt made them equal.”

If you thought that, you would be wrong.

Here’s the rest of her thread:

Patriarchy wants us to believe that rape has always existed and always will. That rape is intrinsic to masculinity. This myth serves patriarchy by transferring all consequences of rape, including shame and blame, onto victims. Patriarchy stays unaccountable.

Rape culture is how patriarchy sustains the hegemonic myth that rape is a given, an unchangeable condition, of all human societies. So men never have to hold themselves or other men accountable. Rape is a women’s issue.

Rape serves patriarchy by keeping all women scared, ashamed, scrambling for a non-existent safety, and available to men on the most unequal of terms. Patriarchy tells women their best hope of survival lies in being chosen by powerful men who’ll protect them.

So many responses think it’s entirely reasonable to expect all women and children, regardless of age, health, disability, life conditions, to be armed and trained for combat 24/7, even in their own homes. But completely unreasonable to imagine and call for a world without rape.

So many responses ignore the reality that men rape their own daughters, granddaughters, nieces. Men rape their wives, in-laws, girlfriends, dates. Their sisters and cousins. Their colleagues and employees, their constituents and congregants. Men rape their domestic workers.

Should women have guns in bed with them, when they sleep with their partners? Should girls take guns to school to shoot rapist teachers? Should women take guns to church for rapist pastors? To work, for their colleagues and bosses? To family gatherings, for creepy relatives?

So many responses ignore the reality that women in militaries, armed and trained to kill, are still raped by their fellow soldiers. That military culture is rape culture on steroids.

All men are not rapists, but patriarchy wants to force us to live as if all men *are* rapists. If we treat men as human beings, then the blame’s on us if they harm us. What kind of mind says, of #UyineneMrwetyana’s terrible death, “if only she’d taken a gun to the post office?”

How patriarchy gaslights women.

1. #NotAllMen
2. “You should be armed and prepared to defend yourself against every man you encounter, including your own family members. If you relax for a moment, if you treat them like people instead of predators, it’s all your fault.”

I would like to live in a world without rape. I would also like to live in a world without murder, robbery, kidnapping, child abuse, and mosquitoes. Easier said than done, and until we find a way to change human nature, we need to protect ourselves.

A couple of points:

1. Most men are not rapists. Only a small percentage of men commit sexual assault. Other men despise rapists. Even in prison rapists have to be segregated from other prisoners to keep them from being beaten and killed.

2. People in the military are not allowed to be armed in their barracks.

3. Women should treat their bodies as a valuable commodity and protect them. Don’t put yourself or your valuables in situations where they cannot be protected. If you go flashing wads of cash in bad neighborhoods you might as well be asking to get robbed.

4. All Leftists are annoying, humorless nutjobs, but feminists are some of the worst Leftists.

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149 Responses to Just Lay Back And Enjoy It

  1. lyn says:

    “Sealioning” (trolling with bad faith questions) is Patel’s only response to questions? Bark, bark.

  2. Dora says:

    I believe this is a hanging offense!

  3. lateblum says:

    If that were the only act of duplicity by bronco bama. Sadly this is no surprise. He was/is a dishonorable person.

  4. lateblum says:

    And yet another nightmare idea . . .

    • lyn says:

      LOL. Obama doesn’t have the mental capacity for that job.

    • Constance says:

      I don’t see Obama wanting the job. He does have a certain cool but the Supreme Court is too structured and too much of a team to give him and his only talent an adequate platform. Besides, has anyone figured out how to monetize a Supreme Court appointment?

      • lyn says:

        And he’s lazy.

      • Mothy67 says:

        Wouldn’t all of his records have to be unsealed? Would his ego allow a grilling? I think he’d lose his shit on anyone who deigned to challenge him.

        • lateblum says:

          Why? They didn’t unseal them for his presidential campaign. I’m certain TPTB will argue that we already “know” him and so unsealing would be unnecessary.

        • Constance says:

          I’m sure Obama would expect to simply ascend to the position and since he is a person of color Democrats would simply nod that this is how it should be.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        Val and company would make worshiping Peons do all the work and then tell him what to say and how to vote and keep calling his appointment historic. The wife would just keep living the jet setter life and ignore him unless told she had to put in an appearance. Why change their formula now.

  5. Dora says:

    Happy National Read A Book Day

  6. Miranda says:

    There have always been bad people (men and women) who will take advantage of a vulnerable person, whether the vulnerability is due to age, disability, or bad choice.

    I’ll put my hand up to doing some incredibly stupid shit when I was in college. I put myself into dangerous situations with all the forethought of a puppy chasing a butterfly through a minefield. My guardian angel had a permanent facepalm. I got lucky and didn’t suffer consequences for my choices. If I had been attacked, the attacker would have been to blame, but I would have been the one to suffer.

    Saying ‘be smart’ isn’t blaming the victim. It’s helping prevent victimhood.

    • lateblum says:

      I think I ran through a few guardian angels. My current one, Ava, has her hands full now that I’m aging and in need of extra help. She is awesome.

  7. taw46 says:

    Still thinking about Denise who is feeling effects from Dorian. It made landfall at Hatteras (Outer Banks) this morning and is still going North. Hope it’s not too bad for her. And Swannie. Both stay safe!

    • lateblum says:

      What taw said! Sending good wishes and thoughts to everyone recovering and to those who may still be facing the effects of Dorian.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      I thought of them both last night when it looked like old Dorian had decided to wander closer to the outer banks and then this morning when I heard he left his calling card in person. Having lived in Virginia Beach (and weathered a couple storms that were 1s or 2s – I lived inland), if a storm hits Hatteras it rides up that coast thru VB and the eastern shore (Maryland and Virginia).

    • swanspirit says:

      Thank you so much for your thoughts!! So far, so very good here, some rain, and fairly light winds (knocks on wood). I am concerned about Denise in Va. Beach. They are getting hit much harder.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        Thanks for the update. From what I could glean (I am a work), it did seem to be going to be hitting most of the VB/Tidewater area harder than anyone anticipated.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      🙏 Praying.

  8. SHV says:

    “When you tell women and girls to learn self-defense, or carry weapons against rapists, you’re not reducing rape. You’re just saying “let him rape someone more vulnerable.”
    That is some sick shit! That said, the best defense is still situational awareness and “don’t do stupid shit” like getting drunk in public places. As a CCW holder, I like to read “self defense” accounts and seems like, outside of what are usually considered “highly defensible” locations, ie. home, place of business, car, a civilian is at a very distinct disadvantage with self-defense.

  9. Mothy67 says:

    Seems a bit disingenuous to discuss rape and the patriarchy and exc!ude the plague in Europe. It reminds me of how the press reports the murders of black transgenders. They often completely omit the circumstances. Most often these persons are working in the sex or drug trade. Shocking that people that operate within a criminal arena might actually commit crimes.

  10. Mothy67 says:

    There is an entire TV show about rape. It worked as show when a lead was allowed to exude masculinity in a positive form. Who didn’t want Stabler to crack some pedophile heads. In it’s current form I find it unwatchable. It is absurdly biased.
    The college consent stuff blows my mind. How much it must suck to be a virile man on a liberal campus. Your very nature is held in contempt. Can you imagine sitting down before going to a frat party and creating a contract?

    • lateblum says:

      Must admit, I liked Stabler. Struggled to like it after it became more snowflakey. Stopped watching it years ago. I am surprised it is still on the air.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        Stabler was the reason to watch the show. Rather like the mother ship L&O. I find myself catching reruns on some of those subchannels and will leave it on if I see it is one form the early years . Middle years, I might watch the first half but avoid the lawyers who seemed to go off the deep end faster and more frequently. later years, tune in elsewhere or read a book.

    • Miranda says:

      “Can you imagine sitting down before going to a frat party and creating a contract?”

      I am for anything that will mitigate the ‘get blackout drunk and party’ mentality on campus. That mindset is dangerous for everyone involved.

      • elliesmom says:

        Back in the early 70s, we worked really hard to establish the idea women were capable adults and didn’t need more “in loco parentis” than the guys did. If they didn’t have a curfew, than we didn’t need a curfew. If their dorms were open to female visitors, than ours should be open to guys. I don’t have a problem with educating both the guys and the gals about the dangers of binge drinking and excess partying. I do have a problem with holding the guys more responsible for what happens than we hold the gals. It’s not “victim shaming” to expect the young women to accept responsibility for their own behavior. The easiest way to never find yourself waking up in the morning regretting a night of drunken sex is not to get drunk the night before. This “I got lured” (h/t to Bull Durham) stuff has got to stop.

        • taw46 says:


        • SHV says:

          “women were capable adults and didn’t need more “in loco parentis” than the guys did. ”
          IMO that’s a problem if it leads to a “denial” of basic biology. Women are generally smaller, weaker and less aggressive than males and need to act to mitigate those and other facts. When I see a single or pair of women, especially college age, walking in areas that are questionable and at night, the first thing that come to mind is “stupid” and the second are images from the “old nature” TV shows of what happens when the Gazelle gets separated from the herd.

          • elliesmom says:

            I don’t disagree that women are physically smaller and weaker than most men. but I refuse to believe we are more in need of supervision. Or less able to make responsible decisions. If I went out on a date and drank myself into a place where I was unable to make a good decision, then it wouldn’t be the responsibility of the man I was with to protect me from my own stupidity. Especially, if he had as much to drink as I did. When women ask for social rules that make men always responsible for what happens, then we’ve handed over our agency to them. We are either fully adult in every way, or we’ve admitted women are just little girls with bigger breasts. I don’t think a woman should have to bring a gun on a date with a man she’s selected to spend time with socially. That’s why we should work on vetting a guy before we put ourselves in a vulnerable position, and that’s what guys should do before they find themselves in a similar position with women, too. It’s not that hard to spot the controlling personality or the crazy lady.

          • lyn says:

            “We are either fully adult in every way, or we’ve admitted women are just little girls with bigger breasts.”

            Standing O!

          • SHV says:

            “we are more in need of supervision. Or less able to make responsible decisions. ”
            I agree but it’s a potential problem when pointing out that irresponsible decisions are “victim shaming”, etc. especially when the level of “irresponsible” is compounded by the persons gender. ie. Two 6′ 3″ guy walk into a sketchy bar vs two 21 y/o 5’5″ girls who were told that they were “empowered”.

            “Back in the early 70s, we worked really hard to establish the idea women were capable adults ”
            I’m your generation and late 60s-early 70s there was a lot of social/sexual change happening but despite some of the craziness, the girls/women seemed more “adult” and assumed appropriate responsibility for their lives….I’m not sure how to describe what I see today but the girls/women seem to be trapped in arrested adolescence and psychological victimhood.

        • Miranda says:

          Depends on what happens. If both parties consent, even while drunk, and actively participate, ok, if either party regrets it the next morning, don’t get that drunk again.

          In a Brock Turner situation, where the guy is having sex with an unconscious woman, even if she’s unconscious because she’s drunk, then the action is on him.

          The act of creating and signing the consent form might help make people think about their actions.

          • CalSteno says:

            The charge against Turner was rape but the fact is he was as drunk as she was & as disgusting as it was he was attempting to hump her leg (sorry for the disgusting choice of words but that’s what it was). They were seen leaving the frat party & numerous people said they were both so drunk they could hardly stumble. Since she was not college age, her sister accompanied her so she could go; the sister supposedly had a drinking problem in the past but still went to ensure her sister’s safety.

            I live very near Stanford & I had extreme difficulty finding any accurate info on what actually happened, testimony given during the trial, & the long victim statement read at sentencing. Even now the comments on local media regarding the victim (who now has a book coming out), Turner, and the judge are ridiculously one-sided & are clearly written by people who have only paid attention to headlines & social media commentary.

            Very little attention is paid to the Stanford professor who took up the case for this case & led the fight after the trial to remove the judge in the case from the bench. There is little mention of the fact that she was a family friend of the victim.

            I feel there was no justice for anyone, including the public, in this case.

          • lyn says:

            @CalSteno Sadly, mob justice won in ousting the judge.

          • lyn says:


            I’m still peeved that Glamour Magazine named Brock Turner’s “rape victim” a Woman Of The Year, which set feminism back at least a hundred years by infantilizing women and insisting that the power in all situations rests solely with men. Thus, Glamour has reinforced the modern “feminist” notion that “Being a woman means never having to take responsibility for your stupidity.”

      • Mothy67 says:

        I don’t really see how a couple signing a sexual consent sober effects binge drinking. I went to college in the late 80’s. Freshman year was Purdue. Big Greek system. There was a lot of heavy drinking. Weekend drinking to extremes was a part of the culture.
        I have a friend who has a teen. He is severely medicated and they live in fear of him. She has concerns he might turn into a shooter. They are doing no talk therapy just heavy drugs on an adolescent. She screams about gun control wants all guns banned. Her child has the issues but everyone else should be forced into accommodation. I said perhaps he should be identified as someone who cannot own a firearm. According to her and the APA you can’t label a teen. Okay so tell me what happened to that cute little puppy.
        I see the same thing applied to a school cracking down on alcohol on non school property. Punish the majority because some people cannot control drinking. Trust me I was a closeted skinny gay kid away at college. I tried to hide and drinking was freedom. All anxiety was gone. That was on me not the normal people who didn’t need a crutch.
        I have the same issue with this door knob to door knob rule my kid’s school has. Once she leaves in the morning somehow all of her actions are under school jurisdiction until she returns home. Meaning if she steals a pack of gum, gets in a scrape, calls another kid a name, smokes a cigarette, or even says Fuck you she can be disciplined without my consent or knowledge. Something is wrong with Shay. She doesn’t get in trouble. I give a lot of credit to ballet. I do not like the school being the parent though in such a blanket way. We have some troubled kids. They go back and forth to the county school that specializes in behavioral problems and if a parent opts for after school oversight bravo. Do not monitor my kid after the bell rings.

        • elliesmom says:

          Schools don’t have jurisdiction over things that happen outside of school property. If a kid does something off school property that would make them dangerous to other kids in school, the courts can intervene and ban them from going to regular school classes, but if a kid gets arrested for shoplifting, the most that happens in school is a juvenile probation officer can request periodic updates on a kid’s school progress.

          • Mothy67 says:

            If you are right then my district is pulling a fast one. Kids have gotten detention and sports suspension for smoking and vaping off school grounds, but before they got home. I could see it as a white lie in which the parents are complicit.

          • Mothy67 says:

            I tried to look up the laws wondering if there could be exceptions. Like bullying at a school bus stop. We don’t have buses so I thought to and from might be considered school. I could not find very much. I couldn’t find anything on smoking but it seems states have enacted cyberbullying laws that happen after school on private computers and code of conduct rules can be applied to extracurricular activities. You can be benched for getting caught drinking on a Saturday night.

  11. Myiq2xu™ says:

  12. Myiq2xu™ says:

    The group is Focus on the Family, a fundamentalist Christian group.

    • lyn says:

      Naughty boy! SMH. Democrats are the country’s largest hate group.™

    • Mothy67 says:

      I have a few I guess you’d call them friends or maybe support group. Gay aunts and uncles who are raising kids because of drugs. Parents just cannot do it. None of us were seeking children. I never thought I’d be here 13 years later. I wish more than anything that pup had a regular home with all it’s warts. You play the hand you are dealt. We have attended therapy before any issues. She went alone for years and her therapist agrees that she has to take her cuts and bruises like every other kid. There is no need to over think. She can call anytime day or night but she has no issues and no need for therapy. She texts her mom constantly. They are friends. She understands her dad might never grow up. I refused to let her life be haunted by others brokenness. I am her great uncle the therapist called and asked me about five years ago if I would talk with a lesbian “stuck” with a boy of three. Mom cannot beat heroin, grandparents won’t so foster care or her. She was so worried about t-ball and parents. I had to tell everyone is afraid of everything once they let a child in. You never get a day off. All you can ever do is give a child a sense of security. Three year old boy did not choose to find his mom passed out with a needle in her arm. You take this on you need to be ready to eat any shit that comes your way and you must provide him with make him aware that you value him. He might wet the bed, throw fits, act out, have nightmares. His first three years will not disappear because you buy him an expensive gift. He is going to have anger. She chose to quit the kid. One day she ran. She is raising him. His mom died from an od. We get together with a few “families” via therapists to talk about challenges. Biggest issue has been issues with sports and school performances. These adults were afraid to cheer in the stands. Are you kidding me. Very few parents show up to everything. Do not miss a thing. Your kid counts not a bigot. I have only met one guy who told me I needed Jesus in 13 years. He cannot stay sober. His daughter ran away because he was on a tear. She was gone. He sobered up and called me. He said everyone hates me but please find my daughter. I said she is hiding asleep in my basement because I am not supposed to know they are sneaking food. He is in a 90 day rehab.
      another girl who has been here all summer. Sometimes for days with no check-in by any parent told me her mom had a baby and was in the hospital, a boy. I said wow you are going to be a big sis. Nope she is putting “it” up for adoption. Her third boy she gave away. Kept 2 girls. How is that possible? Kid is polite and smart. We drive her home. 10′ pm. No one home and I mean ever. She is raising herself and a little sister.
      So I mostly agree with traditional family. I wish baby brat had had parents that didn’t frequent psych wards and jail. I would give up everything I own if she could have come home from school washed up for dinner and sat around meatloaf while someone said how was your day. Not the real world.
      I am against gay people making kids. Always have been. You, in my world, cannot argue God made me this way and then compare a sterile woman to gay rights.
      There are hundreds of thousands of kids in the world that need a home. How do you be all sander’s is right abort every other poor kid in Africa but let’s make babies in a test tube for gay Hollywood???????

  13. Dora says:

    She’s certainly not the only one.

  14. Myiq2xu™ says:

    I think I have figgered out what is making my Herba Buena plant sick. I got a pH test kit to test the soil and it is VERY acidic. I am treating it with lime.

    • Woke Lola says:

      Dude, ph is elementary for growing. Replace the soil and buy a kit of ph up and down for your water on Amazon for $25. I bought all my shit there (except the seeds). PS: cloning is easy.

    • Woke Lola says:

      See also groww**deasy.com. it really is easy if you know what to do.

      • Somebody says:

        Lola how did you fare with your first hurricane? If you already posted an update, sorry I missed it. I’ve been “on the road” 🙄 I came home with a nice consolation prize, middle grandchild shared her cold with me 😏

        I kept thinking about you, not even settled in and Dorian coming your way. I promise it’s not like that every year, but it does happen. Look at it as a good opportunity to ascertain areas where you don’t want to buy. Now that the storm has passed go exploring and figure out where the flooding issues are.

        BTW, of all the hurricane stories I’ve ever heard the family that rolled into our hotel late Wednesday night from SC take the cake. A young family with grandma in tow. Grandma and grandpa came to visit for impending birth of grandbaby #4. #4 was born on the bathroom floor, delivered by her father an EMT.

        Simultaneously grandpa had medical issues his SIL attended to. When rescue arrived for baby and mom, they took grandpa instead. Grandpa had a hole in his stomach and heart that were bleeding. The whole family went to hospital, but as storm neared they evacuated, concerned about night driving in stormy weather. Grandpa had to stay behind in hospital, wow! They all looked worn out, but a lot calmer than I think I would have been.

  15. lyn says:

    I didn’t realize Khan was that short.

  16. Dora says:

    And who the hell is she to start creating and then giving away “rights”?


    UN Global Comms Chief Says Illegally Entering The U.S. Is A Right

    The head of United Nations Global Communications says that it is a “right” for migrants to illegally enter the United States.


  17. lateblum says:

    “Other men despise rapists. Even in prison rapists have to be segregated from other prisoners to keep them from being beaten and killed.”

    They just moved Robert Kelly back into the prison general population. He’s been in isolation since his arrest. Let’s see how he does. Will it make a difference that he is a *blues star*. Who knows? The reports are that he was “relieved” to back into the general setting.

  18. swanspirit says:

    We could use some Argentinian ciwboys!

  19. Myiq2xu™ says:

  20. Dora says:

  21. Dora says:

    She’s Back.

  22. Dora says:

    I really can’t even think that far ahead. 🙂

  23. 1539days says:

    That’s hilariously bad logic. She’s assuming that a rapist is checking out a target rich environment, then passing up more challenging women for easier prey. The problem is that he wouldn’t know if a woman has self-defense skills, or better yet, a concealed weapon. Either of those things would stop a rapist for a night, one might stop him forever.

  24. Dora says:

  25. lyn says:

  26. Woke Lola says:

    I used to buy all that patriarchy shit too. I believe we have vestiges of it in the West, and pockets of it the world in places like Saudi Arabia and other cultures more enthralled to tribal beliefs and religions.

    I also think that today’s (Western) feminists argue their own limitations at their peril and have lost the empowering angle they had in the first and second waves. Those women didn’t sit around talking about they weren’t allowed to do for very long. They made that shit happen.

    Nobody likes a grouch-ass complainer for long. They need to stop licking their wounds and the wounds of history and get out the house and off the cell phone for a while. And yes, by all means, protect the shit out of yourselves. Dead men don’t rape. #IJS

    • Angie says:

      • SHV says:

        “Make all men cut off their dicks!!”
        That’s doesn’t go far enough….The feminist proposal for the ideal society that I have read is castration of males at birth except for a few breeders. Social feminization of boys in school does’t go far enough to reduce aggression and “toxic masculinity”.

  27. helenk3 says:

    I have been thinking about buying a gun for protection. It is not just rape that we need protection from, muggings, home invasions, and sickos who do not need a reason to kill you.
    In today’s world we have a political party that has dumbed down many women to the point that common sense is a rare thing. They have declared war on law enforcement, embraced criminals and left law abiding citizens on their own.
    The cops do their jobs and get trashed for doing so. the judges must think they are priests with the go and sin no more rulings over and over again. It is almost like they want to ignite a powder keg that brings on marshall law and we are all screwed.

    just my opinion

    • votermom says:

      It’s a good idea.

    • taw46 says:

      I am very lucky to live in a safe place (except for those hurricanes). We rarely have any crime here, and when we do, it is usually committed by someone who drove down here from Miami. If I lived elsewhere, I might consider a gun myself.

    • Miranda says:

      Neither of us carry, but we have a gun in the house for protection, and I’ve been shooting with it. Snort. We have to keep one in the chamber because since the snake bite, I can’t pull back the slide.

  28. helenk3 says:

    these are the women I was taught to admire and I still do

  29. DeniseVB says:

    Well, we got roughed up a bit by Dorian today, lost power for 7 hours and decided I’ll kill myself before I’d live in a Demoncratic Socialist country. What are those Dem2020 goofballs thinking???? Oh and a shout out to Lola for going without power for 28 hours in SC and riding out her first hurricane. 😀

    • Constance says:

      That sounds awful, I’m glad you are fine and it wasn’t worse.

    • Angie says:

      Glad you are both safe!

    • lateblum says:

      Happy to see you’re okay. Going without power is always “fun”. I hope there wasn’t too much damage.
      Poor Lola! 28 hours without power!
      {{{Hugs}}} to you both.

    • Somebody says:

      OMG, 28 hours? (((Lola)))

      That is why I evacuate. I don’t camp. I could do 7 hours without power, probably be a bitch……but 28? Hell to the no! We keep talking about a whole house generator, if we had one I’d stay for some storms but I’m in mandatory evacuation for CAT 3 and up.

      • DeniseVB says:

        My idea of camping is staying in a hotel without room service 😀 I shouldn’t complain, it was nothing compared to people who lost everything. Glad it’s over.

        • Somebody says:

          That’s my idea of camping too 😉 Yes there are people that lost everything and there are people that will go weeks or possibly months without power. The US really dodged a bullet with Dorian, it could have been so much worse. Kudos to all those that moved in quickly to restore power in the stricken areas along the east coast.

  30. Angie says:

  31. taw46 says:

    Heh, heh. The left is pissed.

  32. SHV says:

    “I used to buy all that patriarchy shit too. ”
    I sorta did also, reading all of the so called science supporting the concept of a “Golden Age” of human society when social structure was matriarchal and was overrun by an evil patriarchal society from central Asia. The Venus figurines among other “evidence” were cited as hard evidence of this type of social structure. Population DNA studies have pretty much disproven the population shifts that were the basis cited for the demise of the glorious age of matriarchy. It’s been decades since I have read any of this stuff but IIRC, the only quasi-matriarchal societies were possibly Sparta and perhaps some social groups living on Andaman Islands.

  33. helenk3 says:

    quick question
    Are the Donner Party now the heroes of the left?

  34. Angie says:

    The MADMAN!

  35. SHV says:

    Well this is interesting:

    “Exclusive: Feds Demand Apple And Google Hand Over Names Of 10,000+ Users Of A Gun Scope App”

    “Own a rifle? Got a scope to go with it? The U.S. government might soon know who you are, where you live and how to reach you.

    That’s because the government wants Apple and Google to hand over names, phone numbers and other identifying data of at least 10,000 users of a single gun scope app, Forbes has discovered. It’s an unprecedented move: Never before has a case been disclosed in which American investigators demanded personal data of users of a single app from Apple and Google. And never has an order been made public where the feds have asked the Silicon Valley giants for info on so many thousands of people in one go.”


    Seems like same bullshit a Patriot Act, FISA, etc. “Govt got to protect you from “Terrists”….It’s worth giving up a few “rights” so the Terrists don’t get you!!..Just a warm up for the Dems and “Assault rifles”, then semi-auto pistols, etc., etc.

    • Myiq2xu™ says:


      It’s looking into illegal exports of ATN’s scope, though the company itself isn’t under investigation, according to the order. As part of that, investigators are looking for a quick way to find out where the app is in use, as that will likely indicate where the hardware has been shipped. ICE has repeatedly intercepted illegal shipments of the scope, which is controlled under the International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR), according to the government court filing. They included shipments to Canada, the Netherlands and Hong Kong where the necessary licenses hadn’t been obtained.

      “This pattern of unlawful, attempted exports of this rifle scope in combination with the manner in which the ATN Obsidian 4 application is paired with this scope manufactured by Company A supports the conclusion that the information requested herein will assist the government in identifying networks engaged in the unlawful export of this rifle scope through identifying end users located in countries to which export of this item is restricted,” the government order reads. (The order was supposed to have been sealed, but Forbes obtained it before the document was hidden from public view.) There’s no clear stipulation on the government’s side to limit this to countries outside of America, though that limitation could be put in place.

      It’s unclear just whom ICE is investigating. No public charges have been filed related to the company or resellers of its weapons tools. Reports online have claimed ATN scopes were being used by the Taliban.

  36. lyn says:

  37. lyn says:

    Fuck ya’!

    • DeniseVB says:

      There’s no serious GOP challengers to Trump, just whiny NeverTrumpers. Debates, primaries and caucuses would be a huge waste of money for the RNC who needs to stockpile their resources for the General vs. Communists 😀 If those GOP “challengers” are serious, let them run on some goofball independent ticket, qualify to get on the ballot, raise their own money. See: Ross Perot.

  38. Angie says:

  39. Angie says:

    Always fun to watch again, but the sad thing all those smug assholes who confidently declared Trump would never be POTUS are still the exact same smug assholes –still employed & still confidently declaring Trump will be impeached and/or will lose in 2020. They learned absolutely nothing–the arrogance of ignorance is disgusting to me.

  40. Dora says:

  41. Dora says:

    Times Change.

  42. DeniseVB says:


  43. DeniseVB says:

    This is the crowd that shows up for 19 Dem candidates in New Hampshire. Good luck Dems ! LOL.

    • DeniseVB says:

      14k comments, do I dare look ? LOL, his rabid howler monkey critics have been lashing at everything these days. Funny how the media is ignoring the great praise he got from the Bahamas PM for the rescue, recovery and support efforts we’re providing, but gave wall-to-wall coverage to that whiny Puerto Rican mayor for days.

  44. lateblum says:

    Another urban legend put to rest…

  45. foxyladi14 says:

    WOW!! President Trump is going to Rio Rancho, NM for a rally on September 16th.

  46. Dora says:

  47. Myiq2xu™ says:

    New open thread up!

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