Democrats Call For A Ban On Testosterone And Y Chromosomes

Okay, the headline is fake news. The Democrats aren’t really trying to ban male hormones and chromosomes. Not yet. Put the pussification of the American male continues apace.

Here’s a headline from the Atlantic. Anybody see a problem?

What It Means to Be a Man
By Peggy Orenstein

Would you trust a man to tell you what it means to be a woman? I wouldn’t. There aren’t many men I would take advice from on the meaning of manhood, let alone womanhood. The article is a teaser trailer for a book. Ms. Orenstein has written several books about girls, this is her first book about boys. I haven’t read the book (nor am I likely to) so this is about the article.

I’ve spent two years talking with boys across America—more than 100 of them between the ages of 16 and 21—about masculinity, sex, and love: about the forces, seen and unseen, that shape them as men. Though I spoke with boys of all races and ethnicities, I stuck to those who were in college or college-bound, because like it or not, they’re the ones most likely to set cultural norms. Nearly every guy I interviewed held relatively egalitarian views about girls, at least their role in the public sphere. They considered their female classmates to be smart and competent, entitled to their place on the athletic field and in school leadership, deserving of their admission to college and of professional opportunities. They all had female friends; most had gay male friends as well. That was a huge shift from what you might have seen 50, 40, maybe even 20 years ago. They could also easily reel off the excesses of masculinity. They’d seen the headlines about mass shootings, domestic violence, sexual harassment, campus rape, presidential Twitter tantrums, and Supreme Court confirmation hearings. A Big Ten football player I interviewed bandied about the term toxic masculinity. “Everyone knows what that is,” he said, when I seemed surprised.

There is so much wrong with this paragraph that I could spend the whole weekend talking about it.

Let me take a stab at a cogent response:

I’ve spent two years talking with boys across America—more than 100 of them between the ages of 16 and 21—about masculinity, sex, and love: about the forces, seen and unseen, that shape them as men.

So she talked to boys about what it means to be a man. What does a 16-year-old know about sex and love?

Though I spoke with boys of all races and ethnicities, I stuck to those who were in college or college-bound, because like it or not, they’re the ones most likely to set cultural norms.

I’m getting the feeling that her methodology was not what you might call scientific. There are a lot of people these days who do not want self-identified elites telling the rest of us what the cultural norms are for everyone.

Nearly every guy I interviewed held relatively egalitarian views about girls, at least their role in the public sphere. They considered their female classmates to be smart and competent, entitled to their place on the athletic field and in school leadership, deserving of their admission to college and of professional opportunities.

They have been taught what to say and what not to say. Say the wrong thing, get canceled. Former MLB player Aubrey Huff got hisself disinvited to the SFGiants reunion for the 2010 World Champs by, inter alia, expressing his opinion on the proper place for women in major league baseball (up in the stands.)

They all had female friends; most had gay male friends as well.

Remember this from When Harry Met Sally?

Harry Burns: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally Albright: Why not?
Harry Burns: What I’m saying is – and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form – is that men and women can’t be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally Albright: That’s not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry Burns: No you don’t.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: No you don’t.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: You only think you do.
Sally Albright: You say I’m having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry Burns: No, what I’m saying is they all WANT to have sex with you.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: How do you know?
Harry Burns: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally Albright: So, you’re saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry Burns: No. You pretty much want to nail ’em too.

Additionally, don’t forget their black friend. All white people have a black friend these days. It’s pretty much mandatory. I pay a black guy $50 a month to be my black friend. He comes by, I pay him $50, he gives me a hug and says “Thanks, buddy. I’ll see you next month.”

They could also easily reel off the excesses of masculinity.

Ruh-roh. Here is comes

They’d seen the headlines about mass shootings, domestic violence, sexual harassment, campus rape, presidential Twitter tantrums, and Supreme Court confirmation hearings.

Pardon me, but your TDS is showing. None of the things she lists are caused by excess masculinity.

A Big Ten football player I interviewed bandied about the term toxic masculinity. “Everyone knows what that is,” he said, when I seemed surprised.

Why was she surprised? The kid is a college student. He and most of his generation has been thoroughly indoctrinated in Leftist ideology.

There is a lot missing from the article. Maybe it’s in the book. There is a lot I would like to know about her methodology. How were the subjects selected? How were the interviews conducted?

Where are the parents? Specifically, where are the fathers? From the way the article describes it these kids are teaching and leading themselves. But this is the real world, not Lord of the Flies. Where are the other adults – the teachers and administrators?

For most of my life feminists have been claiming that boys have it a lot easier than girls. I can’t say either way, but I know from personal experience that growing up with a penis ain’t all sunshine and roses. It is even harder if you grow up without a good male role model. It is confusing because of all the contradictory messages you get. It is destructive and cruel to demonize masculinity and punish boys for being boys.

The phrase “Boys will be boys” has been twisted and corrupted. It used to be a simple observation about human nature. Feminists twisted it into a defense of rape. It’s not.

According to the Left, there are multiple genders. They’re wrong. There are two genders. Boys are one gender, girls are the other. Boys are naturally bigger and stronger than girls, with thicker bones and more muscle mass. They also get testosterone and other male hormones. There is evidence suggesting that male and female brains are hardwired differently.  And boys are more aggressive than girls, and they engage in more physical play.

If you think of humans as herd animals that developed intelligence that would not be totally inaccurate. And like a lot of animals, there are distinct differences between the genders. Like many animal species, the males are bigger and stronger than the females and take primary responsibility for defending the group.

Much of our culture and customs deal with controlling male aggression. Controlled and channeled aggression is good, uncontrolled aggression is bad. Females tend to have a moderating effect on males. Male aggression peaks in puberty and young adulthood. That is also when human males and females traditionally mate. Females at that age were typically closely watched and protected until they could be married. Customs vary – in some cultures, you had to pay the father if you wanted to marry his daughter. In other cultures, men offered dowries to entice suitors for their daughters.

As humans became more civilized and our tribes became larger and more complex, we developed various laws, rituals, and customs to keep male aggression in check. But we never tried to eliminate it until recently. We also had some ideas about marriage and raising kids and such, but in the middle of the 20th Century we threw out a few thousand years of accumulated wisdom.

Now we’re amazed that our kids are all fucked up.

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123 Responses to Democrats Call For A Ban On Testosterone And Y Chromosomes

  1. votermom says:

    The biggest problem in America is toxic gullibility

  2. Miranda says:

    It would be best to focus on teaching everyone to be decent human beings. Self-control, integrity, responsibility, analytical ability, and compassion (especially paired with analytical ability) are traits everyone should have.

    • Constance says:

      And also good team members. There are times when strength is needed and times when patience is needed. Whatever a persons skills and traits are there is usually some way they can benefit a team.

  3. lyn says:

    the replies are hilarious.

  4. lyn says:

    Democrats get what they deserve this year after all their coup attempts against the best president in my lifetime.

  5. SHV says:

    The cure for toxic masculinity is to administer hormone/puberty blockers to male children. Recently, I quickly read an article that supported this approach to deal with gender anxiety and the onset of puberty. The idea is to delay puberty until the child is older/late teens so that better(?) decision about gender can be made. No one has a clue how much damage is being done to these children but they did admit that normal puberty is critical for bone development and later bone density.

    Hormone blockers result in bone densities in teens that are typical for a 60 year old but this isn’t “so bad” because the hip fracture rate for 60 year olds isn’t that high. This kind of medical experimentation on children would have resulted in “doctors” being hanged at Nuremberg but today it’s OK!!

  6. lyn says:

  7. Mothy67 says:

    I think I know a little bit more about young boys than an elitist writer. I do not talk to them about love and masculinity. I yell knock it off or I will knock your block off. I have a porch that was converted into a bathroom and an extra useless room. I keep water and soda in a mini fridge. You do not need to enter the house to use the bathroom. It can be accesessed from the porch. Kids stop by even when I am not home. They buy toilet paper and always refill sodas. One day last winter I heard noise. A kid ranaway from home and was asleep in the bathroom. I have dealt with several runaways. Not crazy abuse stuff. Just kids yelling I hate you and leaving home. They don’t make it very far. I call and say your son is here. It usually takes a day with me asking now how could this have been handled in a better way. You have to tell me. I am not gonna tell you how to grow up. This is on you. They always come around. I have sat up all night with kids usually boys talking about how to make a better way. I have three brothers. We had bunk beds. Steve was high school quarterback. He listed me as his hero in senior yearbook. The only person I know who hates gays is my mom and we live together for Shayla. She really hates the queers. It is sort of funny. She had me at 18. Her third kid. She dropped out of high school at 15 because she was prego. I came along with all these defects. 1970 they did not permit parents in ICU. My mom got 5 minutes on the hour. She never left the hospital for months. I took the exit ramp one day and the bitch screamed to high heaven as I flat lined. I swear I came back to shut her up. She was so annoying. I had almost 0% percent chance of living. My ticker was not meant to be. I was born defective. Three holes in my heart, blah blah blah. A ton of other stuff. I lived when they said I was a goner. I am 53. My mom who quit school in 10th grade and had SIX kids became a nurse. She got the top score on her state boards. She became an executive. We both decided Shay mattered more than our differences. I do not care that she hates me. She thinks homos are sick. So what. I think every parent thinks their kids are twisted. I know she became a nurse because of me. We are fierce together when it comes to Shayla. My always drunk Nanny would always say let sleeping dogs lie. Grammar was not one of her strong points, but she could make a point with her gin breath and perpetual Taboo. She always wore Taboo. Tons of Taboo. She drank like a fish, but I cleaned bank toilets and sold early bird bingo tickets with her at a young age. Today she would get arrested for child abuse. I did wipe up piss but I spent my summers at Big Bear Lake. My granny had a lot in a campground in West Virginia. It was amazing. We ate moon pies and sat around a real camp fire. We roasted marshmallows and talked for hours. I would walk into the woods and discover so much beauty that no one else was ever going to see. A waterfall running over a cave with clay under my feet. I was in awe. Who gets what I got. I got so much. So what if I had to pick corn. Truth be told I never picked corn. They would drive this yuuge truck into a field. All the guys would go out with these large back packs. We got paid 25 cents a dozen. I waited until everyone was out of sight and then I went to sleep. I never picked corn. I am clinically lazy. I believe lazy should be a DSM catagory. I am awful.

  8. Dora says:

    Chris Matthews faces calls for resignation after comparing Sanders victory to Nazi invasion

    MSNBC’s Chris Matthews is under fire after comparing Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I-Vt.) decisive win in the Nevada caucuses to the Nazi invasion of France in 1940, with some on social media calling for the “Hardball” host to resign.

    “I was reading last night about the fall of France in the summer of 1940,” Matthews said during MSNBC’s live coverage of the caucuses on Saturday. “And the general, Reynaud, calls up Churchill and says, ‘It’s over.’ And Churchill says, ‘How can that be? You’ve got the greatest army in Europe. How can it be over?’ He said, ‘It’s over.'”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/484237-chris-matthews-faces-calls-for-resignation-after-comparing-sanders-victory-to

    • lyn says:

      A person commented that Italy hasn’t found Patient Zero.

      • votermom says:

        Told the kids we’ll make a go / no go decision on Friday

        • taw46 says:

          I was thinking about you today and what you would do. Hard to say the best decision, but it does sound scary. Have you talked to the airlines and hotel, will they do refunds?

          • votermom says:

            The hotels have free cancellation until Saturday; I think the airline tix mught be rebookable or refunda ( I know I did not get non refundable)
            I think waiting the airline might be more flexible too if the situation gets obviously worse

        • taw46 says:

          You know what would worry me the most? That it would show up in Rome and they would put it on lock down like they have in the cities in northern Italy. Yikes, unexpected expenses. Wonder if they would let foreign nationals leave, or if everyone has to stay in quarantine? I am not clear how they are handling that in the north, but it certainly sounds like no one can enter or leave those regions. Which would make sense, if you are trying to limit the spread of the disease.

          • Miranda says:

            I’m even wondering if we’re going to do our usual Vegas trip this summer. We love to play in the WSOP tournaments, but it’s an international crowd and you’re all jammed in together.

          • votermom says:

            yes, or we go to Italy, have fun, then get back here and get quarantined. Eek!

  9. foxyladi14 says:

    Chopper presser.

  10. DeniseVB says:

  11. Dora says:

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    • DeniseVB says:

      With commercials and edited for t.v. it will still be at least 3 hours, too late for moi. Last time I watched it was on TCM, unedited, no commercials, it went for 4 hours, including an Intermission 🙂

      • Dora says:

        It’s playing on TCM. That post is a mistake. Unless it’s playing on both channels. 🙂

        GONE WITH THE WIND SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 23 @ 10:00 PM (ET) –

  13. Dora says:

    ‘The best presidential candidate in 40 years’: Michael Douglas hits the campaign trail on behalf of Bloomberg after it’s revealed his father Kirk Douglas left him out of his will and bequeathed his entire $60m fortune to charity

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8035057/Kirk-Douglas-left-entire-60million-fortune-charity.html

    • lyn says:

      WTF?! Bloomberg is the worst. Michael J. Fox is stumping for Mayor Pete.

      • Dora says:

        If Michael Douglas was left out of his father’s will, he might have accepted money from Bloomberg for his endorsement. At least that’s the impression I get from the headline.

    • DeniseVB says:

      What charities? 60 million could build apts for the homeless in L.A. AND SanFran.
      Lefty Michael has enough money, he doesn’t need it. Plus Kirk probably hasn’t been in sound mind for a decade or more, I’m sure his “loving” family “took care of his estate” long before his last breath.

      I just scanned the article, it didn’t seem to include a wing on a children’s hospital like the Trump boys built.

      • taw46 says:

        A total of $50million will be distributed through the Douglas Foundation, which was founded by Kirk and his wife, Anne
        Some of the beneficiaries include St Lawrence University, the Sinai Temple of Los Angeles, the Kirk Douglas Theatre and the Children’s Hospital Los Angeles

  14. votermom says:

    tin foil hat on

    • DeniseVB says:

      I worked for a vet for 10 years, puppy vacs and annual boosters included CORONAVIRUS.

      We test on animals, if it works for dogs (cats too?) why not humans? Hmmmm?

      http://www.vetstreet.com/care/canine-coronavirus-vaccine

      • votermom says:

        there’s also a lyme vax for dogs but not for humans
        I asked around about that and the general consensus was that it wasn’t very effective

      • taw46 says:

        But this is just one of many Coronaviruses and a new one. There is no vaccine for this strain COVID-19, although they are working on it.

      • Constance says:

        There are 7 known Corona viruses that can infect people. So they would want to be sure to make the vaccine to the correct virus.

    • Constance says:

      It would be useful to know what the infection rate is in the general public. It could be surprisingly high with most people not showing symptoms.

    • taw46 says:

      Before China notified the outside world of a new type of Coronavirus, people were traveling all over the world. For business, for vacation, to visit family. People of Chinese descent returned to China for their New Year. And other people as well. Then everyone returned home, all over the world. By the time they found out about COVID-19, many countries banned flights from China. But it was already too late. It is the price we pay for a global society, for being a world of international travelers. There is no stopping it at the present time. All they can do is quarantine people who show signs or who have been around those who tested positive for the virus. For now, the death rate is lower than for SARS and the MERS virus. Hopefully it will stay that way and a vaccine will be discovered soon.

    • John Denney says:

      I’ve wondered for some time how many germs it takes to cause illness. I suspect it depends on the particular virus or bacteria, that the body’s immune system can handle some more effectively than others, but can be overwhelmed by a sufficient number of any one kind.

      Suppose one takes a droplet of nasal mucus from a person infected and very sick with coronavirus. That one droplet would contain perhaps a billion individual coronaviruses. If it were dropped into a liter of water, and stirred, and one cc taken up in a dropper, it would contain 1/1000 the number of viruses, about 1 million. If that were dropped into a fresh liter of water, stirred, and a 1 cc dropper taken from it, that dropper would contain 1000 viruses. If it were dropped into a liter of water and stirred, and 1 cc taken from it, it would contain a single virus.

      If one snorted that 1 cc containing the virus, would one’s body be able to fight it off, and thus acquire immunity?

      • elliesmom says:

        That’s sort of how a vaccine works, but there are lots of ways to make a vaccine. We can inject enough of the virus into someone to train the body to recognize the virus and produce antigens to kill it, but not enough to make the person sick. That’s the riskiest way. Many times injecting a dead virus works and carries no risk of disease. Sometimes injecting a harmless virus can trick our bodies into producing antigens against its more deadly cousin. Like we did with smallpox. Sometimes we take the blood from someone who has had the disease and survived and use that person’s antigens to make a vaccine. Medical researchers will eventually find a vaccine for coronavirus, but it could take a long time. We’re just starting to see some progress toward a vaccine for AIDS, but there’s still a ways to go. At the same time they’re working on anti-viral drugs to treat the disease. Medical research is expensive, and it’s why pharmaceuticals are so expensive. When’s the last time a new drug or vaccine was discovered in Russia? One of the hazards of going to socialized medicine is it reduces the amount of innovation, a cost that never gets figured it when politicians push for “Medicare for All”.

        • lateblum says:

          Thank you both, em and JohnDenney, for these descriptions/explanations. It is so helpful to me and my little brain, to learn about the way vaccines, drugs, etc are developed. The reasoned and thoughtful push back to Sanders’ proposed M4All makes it even easier to voice clear opposition to it.

  15. Angie says:

    The left has gone so crazy with the gender bullshit, a popular YouTube LGBT activist (a lesbian) is ‘leaving the left’ Turning point for her was being called ‘transphobic’ for not, as a LESBIAN WOMAN, wanting to date a ‘trans woman’ with a penis. lol The left really has lost it’s collective mind.

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  17. lyn says:

    thread

  18. lyn says:

    • DeniseVB says:

      Barbara Bush’s memoir mentioned those screens to block the slums from view of the visiting dignitaries, they really upset her, but I guess they’re still doing it. Waiting for the left to bitch about them as a Trump thing. I’m ready 🙂

    • Constance says:

      India seems to love President Trump. I’m not really clear why that is but I guess they just are a nation with common sense people.

  19. Dora says:

    What a welcome. Wow!

    ====

    ‘America loves India’: Donald and Melania Trump get raucous welcome from 110,000 people at world’s biggest cricket stadium as Prime Minister Narendra Modi says ‘new history is being created’ in relations between two countries

    Donald Trump and Prime Minister Narendra Modi got a raucous welcome when they entered the world’s largest cricket stadium on Monday as the president spent his first hours in India receiving the kind of pageantry and adoration he likes to see.

    The 110,000 stadium was filled to capacity and Trump acknowledged the spectacle when he addressed the Indian people.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8036815/Crowds-line-greet-Donald-Melania-Trump-couple-touches-India.html

  20. Dora says:

    This sounds like something they would do.

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    Ex-Clinton adviser predicts Bloomberg, Clinton plotting ‘scheme’ to make Hillary the Dem nominee

    ‘Hillary is the only candidate that they’ll be able to come up with that can measure up to Donald Trump’

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/ex-clinton-adviser-predicts-bloomberg-clinton-plotting-scheme-to-make-hillary-dem-nominee

  21. Dora says:

    President Xi Jinping said the epidemic was the “largest public health emergency” since the founding of the People’s Republic in 1949.

    “This is a crisis for us and it is a big test,” he said during remarks carried by state television.

    In a rare admission, at a meeting to coordinate the fight against the virus, Xi added that China must learn from “obvious shortcomings exposed” during its response.

    The World Health Organization (WHO) has praised Beijing for its handling of the epidemic, but China has been criticized at home for silencing early warnings from a whistleblower doctor who later died from the virus.

    https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/xi-says-china-facing-big-test-virus-global-impact-spreads

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  24. DeniseVB says:

    CNN’s become the “Eddie Haskell” of corporate media.

  25. taw46 says:

    Earlier today.

  26. taw46 says:

    • Constance says:

      Wow, poor thing. Life has been so hard for her since she was removed from her government job! And apparently having your government career die is grounds for achieving Progressive sainthood so she has all the stress that comes with being worshiped to deal with too.

  27. taw46 says:

  28. DeniseVB says:

    This guy has over 30k followers, I won’t reply to this nonsense because in his bio, I would just get blocked or something. Had to share it here because my reply would have been “what, no Village People song celebrating Soy Boy Man?” Not worth chancing a suspension over a triggering 😀

  29. Dora says:

    “Macho Man”! Yeah! 🙂

  30. lyn says:

  31. Dora says:

    Love those statues. 🙂

  32. Dora says:

    I’m starting to get nervous about this virus.

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    Is the killer coronavirus now disease X? World Health Organization expert warns the infection is ‘rapidly’ fitting category for the mysterious pathogen scientists fear will kill 80million

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8037835/Coronavirus-rapidly-fitting-Disease-X-category-World-Health-Organization-expert-warns.html

    • Constance says:

      On the good side it seems to be less lethal as it spreads in China. Of course no one knows what is going on in many places like North Korea or Iran and it is probably spreading like mad there. How many countries wouldn’t take the opportunity to wipe out a bunch of old people who they consider non productive resource hoarders? For the record I would be considered one of the old people.

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