Democrat Ghouls Cheer For Coronavirus Recession

Headlines:

How the coronavirus could spark a severe slowdown or recession in America

Recession risk increases as coronavirus spreads, economists say

Yellen Says Coronavirus Could Throw U.S. Economy Into Recession

There’s not a lot the Fed can do about a coronavirus recession

Democrats have been hoping and praying for a recession to hit since the night Trump was elected. They also have fantasies about a Category 5 hurricane making landfall on a red state just before the election. What’s better than a Cat-5 hurricane? TWO Cat-5 hurricanes!

If we can’t have a hurricane, how about a war? Nasty Nanna gets her Depends moist thinking about Iran or the Norks launching a nuclear strike on American soil. The Democrats aren’t picky – any major disaster (natural or man-made) will do. And then no matter how Trump responds they’ll call it “Trump’s Katrina” and claim he bungled the response. And rest assured, if they can do anything to make it worse or obstruxct relief efforts, they will.

A national divorce seems more and more likely everyday. If it happens, I want to live with Dad.

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220 Responses to Democrat Ghouls Cheer For Coronavirus Recession

  1. lyn says:

    I hate Democrats.

  2. Myiq2xu™ says:

    Mom has her weekly hair appointment at 1:00 today. She woke me up at 12:30 to tell me she was ready to go. It was 12:30 AM, Her appointment is at 1:00 PM.

    • Miranda says:

      I’m so sorry. This happened with my grandfather. I know this is a hard time. Are there any senior centers near you? When my neighbor cared for her mother, she would drop her off there a couple of times a week for a few hours. Her mom socialized and daughter got a break. They both enjoyed it.

    • elliesmom says:

      Now this one I can really relate to. Has she become nocturnal? Switching Elliesdad back to being asleep at night and awake during the day took a lot of work. 😦

      • Myiq2xu™ says:

        She goes to bed around 2-3 pm and gets up at midnight-2 am. And she refuses to go back to bed. I keep the car locked inside the garage otherwise she’ll “go wait in the car” hours before we are going to leave.

        • elliesmom says:

          Those were Elliesdad’s hours, too, for a quite awhile. He never tried to go anywhere without me, but he watched a lot of late night, early morning TV and found a lot of people who were insomniacs or lived on the other side of the globe to hang out with online. Since I’m an early riser, we still had a lot of time during the day we were both awake. I made all of his appointments for the morning, and if we wanted to go out, we did lunch instead of dinner. That schedule I could make work. When he started sleeping more of the day, his doctor told me you can’t change sleeping patterns by going to bed earlier. You have to work the clock from the other direction. Start staying up an hour later until you’ve worked into the wake/sleep pattern you want from the other direction. I managed to get him back to “2nd shift sleeping” again, but I never got him to where he stayed awake all day and slept through the night. A messed up circadian rhythm is part of normal aging, but people with dementia issues experience greater issues, and it’s not clear which comes first.

          • DeniseVB says:

            ❤ Dh and I had an episode last night. We're in our 70's, though I'm on the Trump end, he's on the Biden end, so we test each other for *signs*. A baby Tapir was born at our local zoo last night, I ran downstairs to tell dh and forgot the species. It was like a 10 second hike, but I forgot the name of the animal. This scared me.

          • elliesmom says:

            Elliesdad had a very high IQ. His illness caused a drop of about 40 points, which still left him above average. It meant he was still able to be functional, but he knew he couldn’t reason as well as he was used to. That made him very depressed. Because we moved, his doctors were new. Only one of them realized his patient had once been a lot more intelligent than he appeared so many of them dismissed his fears about losing his cognitive abilities. He also had a sense of humor that only that doctor really got. He started every office visit with a series of questions. One of them always was, “Do you know who brought you here today?” ED always had a smart ass answer. One day he said, “Well, I hope she’s not my sister. I know I’ve known her a very long time. I think I’ve had sex with her.” He “play acted” a little too well that time, and the poor doctor was close to tears because he thought ED really couldn’t remember who I was. But here’s what his doctor said, “If you find yourself forgetting things, like where you put your keys, that’s normal aging. If your keys are in your hand, but you have no idea what they’re for, that’s something to worry about.”

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      I can really relate. For a few years a clock that would show it morning/afternoon/evening/night and had a button to press and would speak the time (e.g. it is now 6:12 p.m in the evening) helped with Mom and couple of the aunties with day/night and I could leave reminders for when I was not home but did not really stop those who became more nocturnal or developed sun-downers. It took me six months to get back to a decent sleeping pattern after mom passed and I still have at least two nights a week where I am up until “first light”.

      This is similar to one I started with for late 80s:
      https://www.amazon.com/MEDCENTER-70942-MedCenter-Talking-Alarm/dp/B00CEZQ9U4/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=talking+clock+for+elderly&qid=1582918686&sr=8-10

      • Somebody says:

        So my mom has issues, dementia but no official diagnosis. She was supposed to have a series of cognitive tests and we all though she did, but it turns out she didn’t. My sister said it upset mom so much she called it off 🙄 Then she told all of us she had mild dementia, but nothing to worry about 🙄

        Mom repeats herself, asks a lot of the same questions over again. However, she functions fine otherwise. She cooks, cleans, does her laundry, dresses, etc. She knows which day is trash day, but asks me my grandkids ages 5 times in an hour.

        The biggest issue we have is my mom obsesses about her yard. She has a weekly service, NOT good enough. She has literally swept her yard with a broom when it was “dirty”. We took away garden tools to discourage her, didn’t work. She recently picked up 3 lawn and leaf bags of leaves by hand (I kid you not). She threw out her back in the process.

        That’s the issue. She causes herself physical harm obsessing about her yard, ffs. She’s fired untold number of yard men, nobody does a good enough job 🙄 She’s dehydrated herself and had heat stroke, crawling around pulling weeds by hand. If she goes to one of our houses she sneaks out and starts jacking with the yard, pulling weeds, picking up sticks, what have you. We can’t control her.

        At the doctor they ask what day or year is it, who is the President, etc. She always answers those correct, but try to have a conversation with her and she basically has a set of questions she runs through with each of us, then repeats them. She passes the ADL list as far as being able to do daily living things……some things like jacking with her yard we’d prefer she not do.

        So do you think this is a form of dementia?? My sister is at her wits end and wants her in a home. The doctor said he doesn’t see it. My sister though just wants to manage her care, not provide it. Since mom hurt her back she’s had to go over there just about every day for a whole week……gasp 🙄 I went over there last night to “give her a break”, but she’s pushing a home and legally she’s in charge.

        Those of you that have dealt with dementia did it cause any kind of OCD kind of issues? My MIL had dementia but we never had such issues with her.

        • elliesmom says:

          Whatever was there before gets amplified. There are several drugs that are highly effective for people with OCD, and they have the added benefit of reducing overall anxiety. The problem is getting the person with dementia to present some of the symptoms in a doctor’s office. If you can get your mom to start a conversation with her doctor about doing yard work so he or she can assess the level of compulsive behavior, you might be able to walk out with a prescription. Paxil was highly effective for ED for quite awhile.

        • cynic says:

          My mom got bad really fast. She couldn’t walk, talk, feed herself, etc. I was busy raising the twins, so my dad could have been hiding it from us, and dealing with it by himself.

          My mother-in-law would constantly call my BIL and his wife. I don’t know how they kept their sanity. All the siblings agreed that she couldn’t stay by herself, and they didn’t want strangers in the house, so they put her in an assisted living place. She lived on one side of the building that had a small kitchen for at least 5 yrs., then when she couldn’t take care of herself anymore, she moved to the other side of the building another 5 years.

        • Mt.Laurel says:

          So sorry – on all levels.

          First, has she been checked for UTIs? They can cause some of the same symptoms as dementia. One of my aunts has this problem. Fluid intake often is not enough to keep their systems clear so elders are more at risk.

          As to OCD , yes, is can come into play with dementia. With Mom and one of my aunties this was ongoing. With the other not as much. Also look for hoarding. With mom with was worrying that she would have enough food/snacks for when I was gone and until we got to the store again. I had two grocery stores within walking distance but still could not convince her we would not run out of supplies. Letting her help me with Peapod (grocery delivery) selections with the online app helped ease that fear. Fears become very exaggerated (getting kicked out of their home, people taking their money, making sure home is secure . . ).

          If your mother is physically well, for her age, nursing homes will likely not admit her as she would not meet the medical requirements. ADLs are a big part of the check list for admission. This may be what her doctor is seeing. She is declining but it is not enough to hit the markers and most docs do not like to push a senior out of their homes into a facility prematurely. The quality of life goes way down and many elders become depressed in addition to any cognitive decline.

          Can her doctor recommend someone to give her full review on her cognitive abilities? For instance, my one cousins (Mom’s niece) specializes in geriatric nursing and rehab and was able to work with Mom and even aunties on Dad’s side and do an evaluation and another cousin is a speech pathologist who also looked at the verbal patterns. Some home health providers offer this type of evaluation (need doc to refer for Medicare).

          A “home” sounds easier, but really it is a lot of work. You have to see who will accept her ) many do not take or do not want those with cognitive problems as medical are easier to handle. You have to keep constant watch on staff and the parent. They may react very poorly to being put into “an institution”. Facilities can evict them if they become uncooperative or put staff at risk.

          And you have to be practical about cost. Assisted living (which sounds like the level she might be at rather than nursing home and you do not need to meet the same strict requirements – can start at Independent Living. But it is expensive. And there are extra costs for laundry, hairdressers, ect. And payment can increase if they find the resident requires more attention/care.

          I was legally in charge and had promised my mother she would not be put in a home unless it was beyond my capacity to care for her. The brothers/sisters-in-law who would have taken her were in California at the time (they both passed before mom) and the others were pushing “put her in a home” but did not care once I stepped up and took her

          here in Maryland, my cousin, his wife and I worked in tangent with the two aunties who were left widowed and childless. It worked better than any of the three of us encountered with siblings. Rational discussions – and decisions always with the elders best interests at heart. Weird – but true.

          Note: Mom and one auntie did not want any “strangers” caring for them and it was hard to get home health/home assistance. Others did well with the attention and new interests an outsider brings. So it might also be worth seeing of having someone come in a couple time a week might help. 💓

        • Mt.Laurel says:

          Elliesmom brings up a point I sort of touched on with getting an outside evaluation. One that is not done in the docs office but might construed as someone coming to visit. Also not that same short time constraint so it is harder for the elder to put their best face forward for 10-20 minutes.

          I went with my mom to almost all of her doctors appointments./tests once she hit 80. Knew her primary doc well (was in school/friends with with his youngest brother). we often had silent discussions over her head. Same practice saw two of my aunts. This is an advantage few have.

          • Somebody says:

            Thanks guys. My. Laurel, yes she’s been checked for a UTI. Sis took her to the ER for her back and they checked her. My MIL had dementia, but I quickly learned if she suddenly got real bad she had a UTI, every single time. I learned that after the first couple she had.

            EM thanks for the advice, that sounds like a plan. Hopefully something like Paxil will help.

            My. Laurel, yes assisted living is expensive. Some more than others. Mom is definitely NOT nursing home material, not at all. I don’t think she’s ready for ALF yet either. Having someone come by a couple times a week would be great, but we’ve hired people and she immediately fires them 🙄

          • Mt.Laurel says:

            I had that problem with mom and one aunt. They did not fire but the aides/nurses/therapists/whoever but the agencies would say they would not come back as they were doing no good and just seemed to aggravate. Now the other aunties LOVED the extra attention.

            Oh well. I used to hope for a uti. That is much easier to address. The local doc I used between visits back to pa and recommended by neighbors would shake her head and goodness is you keep her in good shape so her blood work is good and she is always hydrated. . Bad news is the memory and behavior is all her as the is no uti or other problem.

            Now I did find they all did better as spring approached. The light, especially for mom made a difference. I got her one of those lights for winter. A small table top version and it helped a bit in fall and winter but mr 🌞 is hard to mimic successfully. Maybe see if it helps your mom. Those months mom was more open to changes to her lifestyle and diet and routine. Then by fall it was the new pattern and no additions, changes until after the spring equinox.

            I wish I could 🤗 hug you in person. In a way I was lucky, mom’s did not get really bad until after 90 so she had slowed down physically and knew her limits for chores. She stopped taking her daily walk because she was afraid she would not find her way back to the condo. She moved here when she was 86. On the other hand, Having a condo, she could manage the flower boxes. But those poor plants. she sat and stared them down them until the blooms were ready to drop so she could pinch them back. I swear the ivy geraniums feared for their lives.

          • Mt.Laurel says:

            I cannot see other responses for some reason. Just bits and pieces. Mom was on lexapro for panic attacks before the dementia really took hold. I then had Xanax for emergencies( when she would Get herself so worked up she could not sleep at all). Then her doc changed it to something that would help her for a longer stretch. I have to look up the name. It helped me get a few good hours where I could plan ahead and time the meds to maximize the benefit and she enjoyed herself with being drugged up. Paxil was suggested by some but it did not mesh well with m9 s other meds, worked well for two of the aunties.

          • Somebody says:

            My mom will be 85 in June. Her main issue is that she had uncontrolled diabetes for years which resulted in kidney failure, she’s mid-stage kidney failure.

            Her diabetes was uncontrolled because she’s notoriously cheap and would take half her medications to stretch a buck 🙄 That combined with eating whatever she wanted, was a bad combination. We can’t go back and change it. She made those choices, she was and still is living on her own. My sister keeps tabs on her medications now.

            The dementia is related to the kidney failure. There is no additional diagnosis like Alzheimer’s or anything, although as I said she hasn’t had in depth testing. She did have a bunch of different doctors that didn’t really coordinate. A year and a half ago my sister moved her to a specialized geriatric clinic affiliated with a major hospital here. GP and specialists under one roof all working in tandem. Some of her meds were switched, some added, some eliminated so they weren’t at cross purposes, but it’s kind of late in the game.

            I’m not involved, but probably will be soon. I took care of grandma, aunt, MIL and my father to varying degrees and for varying amounts of time (my aunt died in a couple of months, MIL and dad lived years). In some instances I was just criticized from the peanut gallery that was my siblings. With my father, my sister moved to town the last 18 months of his life and became my manager. I swore, never again, NEVER AGAIN. All those many years ago I told my mom choose wisely because never again. (Sis is oldest, so in charge by birth order 🙄)

            To her credit she is hands on with mom. To my credit, I don’t criticize or nit pick. My brother is MIA as he was with my dad. My other sis is out of state but does what she can, when she can.

            I knew once mom’s care involved more than popping by periodically the SWHTF and here we are. My mother and I have never been close, she was always closer with my sisters. I will do what’s right, but I’ve paid my dues. If I need to step up I will, but I will not have a manager, nope not gonna happen. I’ll go to court. I lost a baby and damn near my life in a horrific stress induced miscarriage, never again.

  3. lyn says:

  4. foxyladi14 says:

    Great!!

    Bill Cassidy, M.D.

    @BillCassidy

    As a doctor who ran vaccine programs to decrease the spread of disease, @realDonaldTrump is doing what’s necessary to protect Americans from the #coronavirus. Democrats’ attacks are unfounded and aimed at stoking fear for political gain.
    39.2K
    9:17 PM – Feb 26, 2020

  5. lyn says:

    USATamiW @USATamiW

    They are literally calling it the TrumpVirus, Brit. There is no line the left won’t run right over.
    9:29 AM · Feb 27, 2020

  6. lyn says:

  7. lyn says:

  8. foxyladi14 says:

    Remember President Trump issued an executive order back on Feb. 1 to ban all foreign nationals who had traveled to China over the previous two weeks from entering the U.S., as a measure to protect American soil from the Wuhan Coronavius.

    • Somebody says:

      Yes he did, technically on 1-31, but then how did 6,700 Chinese students and professors return to CA after the Chinese New Year? Did they enter via a different country? They are supposedly self-quarantined

  9. lyn says:

  10. Mothy67 says:

    I feel really bad for the medical pros that have to deal with this hyperbolic shit. They have to go to work always knowing there is a danger and now this incessant noise. Those with kids are probably pulling their hair out.

    • Somebody says:

      I wouldn’t want to work in an ER or urgent care center. They are the front line.

      • lateblum says:

        I was sick just over a week ago and had to go to an urgent care center on a Sunday evening. There were very few people there. In fact, I only saw 1 familynwith a sick child when I arrived. The child was wearing a mask. My visit was fairly brief in length and when I walked out, there were at least 10 other people waiting to be seen. This was long before the major push r/t COVID-19. But the nurse I spoke with said there had been a steady stream of patients with coughs and fevers for a week. It is flu season.
        The health care system that provides me with care has this message on the first page of its web site

        “If you have experienced fever, cough or shortness of breath AND have traveled to/from China OR South Korea OR have been exposed to someone sick with COVID-19 in the last 14 days, then please go to the nearest Emergency Department. Upon entering the Emergency Department, we ask that you immediately put on a mask and notify our front desk staff of your travel history and symptoms.”

        They also state there has been NO case of COVID-19 in their health care system.

  11. lyn says:

    Deaths

    COVID-19: Approximately 2,708 deaths reported worldwide; 0 deaths in the U.S., as of Feb. 25, 2020.

    Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

    https://theridgewoodblog.net/johns-hopkins-medicine-the-facts-coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu/

  12. swanspirit says:

    File this under How lost are you, Liz?
    Lizzie wants to divert funding from the wall, to r but the corona virus. That’s right. Let’s have OPEN BORDERS to fight the spread of a possible pandemic.
    She also wants to be President. Yeah, no.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/warren-proposes-bill-to-shift-racist-wall-funding-to-coronavirus-effort/?fbclid=IwAR0kGWkST3vRhU0qbbMLJhvesshQhthXMQSHt1A6-Aiuwf58sbeO_5eJa-4

  13. DeniseVB says:

    • Constance says:

      Stock markets correct, I think it will come back. The thing is a lot of deranged Trump haters took their money out of the market when Trump won and never put it back in. They sat on the sidelines through this whole run up. I suspect a lot of them will jump back in now since they are stupid and believe Trump will lose in November. That alone will push the market up, interest rates are low here and negative in some countries where else are people going to put their money but stocks or under the bed? At this point many are taking the losses and then they will get back in. Certainly not before this weekend so things might be bumpy for awhile longer. Another thing. Health care works drill for all sorts of emergencies and receive many trainings. It is very offensive that Democrats have zero faith in them and their hard work.

      • Miranda says:

        I hope they correct soon. I was hoping to retire in June 2021, and that’s looking less likely. Also hubby may have to go back to work.

        • Constance says:

          Well you never know what markets will do but they don’t tend to go up on Fridays because a lot of pros don’t like holding stocks over the weekend since you never know what mind blowing announcement will come down. If there were any stocks you have been wanting, soon would be a good time to buy. It is unnerving how quickly the markets came down but part of that is how easy and fast it is to trade now. I really expect it to go right back up. Where else are people going to put their money. Interest rates are low and in some countries they are negative (which I really don’t get). After the Dems pick a nominee and the Corona virus holds steady for a few more weeks I expect a big recovery.

  14. Dora says:

  15. DeniseVB says:

    6 p.m. tonight. Terrence was invited to this though he considers himself a Black American 🙂

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/?utm_source=ods&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1600d

  16. Myiq2xu™ says:

  17. taw46 says:

    The doctor mentioned this cruise ship on his update today. There is a crew member who is sick, he recently visited Milan. Jamaica, Cayman Islands, and Mexico have all rejected this ship. Don’t know what they will do now.

  18. helenk3 says:

    had to share this

  19. lyn says:

    Dumb bitch.

  20. Mothy67 says:

    What if the coronavirus got into the penal system?

  21. votermom says:

  22. Mothy67 says:

    Terrance

  23. lyn says:

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  26. swanspirit says:

    My grandson is stationed in Korea. His base is on lockdown. No one allowed off base. I feel bad for him, but I am glad the army is taking precautions.

    • Constance says:

      Creepy. The main witness against Weinstein was run down by a car. She is alive but I’m sure he will come at her again.

    • Anthony says:

      Epstein didn’t kill himself. Weinstein and witnesses against him won’t kill themselves either.

      Witnesses say an SUV with blacked out windows was seen fleeing the scene. The only clue about the identity of the driver was the sound of maniacal cackling coming from inside the car along with slurred mutterings about Russian assets, Tulsi Gabbard, Bernie Sanders and POTUS.

  27. Dora says:

    I’m getting tired of hearing about this, but this is the news I woke up to. Now It’s New York. Pence met with Cuomo last night. Gosh! They are really building up the panic IMO.

    ==

    Coronavirus: NYC Resident Being Tested After Traveling To Italy
    https://wcbs880.radio.com/articles/news/nyc-resident-being-tested-for-coronavirus-after-italy-trip

    • DeniseVB says:

      I think if it comes to Virginia, I’m just going to lock myself in my mom cave with a bottle of vodka til May.

      Funny tidbit, in Errol Flynn’s book he wrote about the crew coming down with Malaria while on an African location shoot. He wouldn’t drink the local water so he just drank vodka, he was the only one who didn’t come down with the bug. Hmmmm? 😛

      • Somebody says:

        Drink elderberry vodka 😉 Elderberry has properties that stop certain viruses from replicating, according to the latest research out of Israel today, that includes this coronavirus.

        Researchers were curious why Jewish and southerners seemed less impacted by the Spanish flu. The common denominator they found was elderberry. Elderberry wine in the Jewish communities and elderberry vodka in the south, both homemade. Further studies showed elderberry stopped the virus from replicating. Sparing some and resulting in milder cases in others.

        Bottoms up 😉

        • DeniseVB says:

          Is cranberry close enough? I’ll look for elderberry juice ! I always use fruit juice mixer, like O.J. and Grapefruit too. Y’know, something healthy to lessen the guilt 😀

        • DeniseVB says:

          I found several homemade elderberry vodka recipes using dried berries, a couple of lemon wedges and add vodka in a mason jar and let it work it’s magic for 30 or so days. Could be close to the “old country” potion? 😉

          My favorite Italian chef has a homemade recipe for lemoncello liquer but the comments said, it’s okay, but the store bought tastes much better 🙂 I’m lazy like that. The search continues……

          • lateblum says:

            There’s a huge liquor store only a few blocks away, I’ll have to see if they carry a wine or vodka made with/from elderberries. If anyone around here will have it, they will.

          • Mothy67 says:

            Wouldn’t the alcohol negate the efficacy. It does with penicillin.

          • Somebody says:

            Since I have wild elderberry at the edge of my yard I could make some. I’ll have to look up some recipes, but they aren’t ripe until summer.

          • John Denney says:

            Mothy, Somebody’s post above had this:

            “Researchers were curious why Jewish and southerners seemed less impacted by the Spanish flu. The common denominator they found was elderberry. Elderberry wine in the Jewish communities and elderberry vodka in the south, both homemade.”

            So apparently alcohol doesn’t negate the effects of elderberry. Actually, I think it’s a preservative. Might be interesting, though, to compare efficacy of the elderberry wine/vodka against elderberry jam/jelly/preserves.

          • Mothy67 says:

            Going to make a point of testing that. Thanks.

          • Constance says:

            It’s possible alcohol helps extract whatever the protective factor is in elderberries.

    • Somebody says:

      Since it is widespread in Italy and people travel freely throughout Europe. It will most likely spread across the continent and because so many Americans go to Europe and Europeans come here, no doubt it’s coming or already here.

      Add to that Erdogan stating he will no longer hold back “refugees” from entering Europe, not that he had the pipeline on lockdown……but now he intends to open the floodgates. The refugees generally tend to first go to Greece and Italy. There are already too many for them to handle, add in a virulent flu strain and things could get out of control quickly in southern Europe. We don’t know how widespread it is in Iran, but we know Iranians are all over the Iraq, Syria, Turkey border area.

      Short of an all out draconian travel ban, coupled with serious quarantine measures, it seems inevitable. The one thing working in our favor is the calendar and warmer weather. IF this is like most other flus, which at this point nobody knows.

      It could already be widespread here and we just don’t know it. We haven’t really tested very many people. We also don’t really know the mortality rate or how serious it is in general. As it moves across western countries we’ll get a better idea of the % of serious/fatal cases and best treatments. Hygiene really is the best deterrent and avoiding crowded spaces.

        • Somebody says:

          I’ve never had elderberry juice, but the syrup is way too sweet for a drink, unless it was added as a splash like grenadine.

          The concentrate is interesting, but I wonder how long it lasts? The powder would be stable, but would require a lot of mixing. Elderberry is quite tart, I would expect the juice to be also unless heavily sweetened. If you prefer tart, as in cranberry and grapefruit, you’d probably like the juice but it seems kind of pricey. Maybe just add a touch of the syrup to a vodka, juice concoction.

          If the apocalypse comes I’m fortunate in that I have a couple of elderberry bushes growing at the edge of my yard at the wood line. 5 of them actually, I’ll have to net them to keep the birds from eating them. Every year I say I’m going to pamper and harvest the wild blueberries and the elderberry. I actually have nets for all of them, but it seems I always get busy and the birds beat me to the punch.

          • Somebody says:

            How. About a lemon drop martini with a splash of elderberry syrup? That actually sounds really yummy

          • DeniseVB says:

            I like tart, it prevents guzzling. LOL. I think I’m going to order the gummies for dh and the syrup for me. I do keep a bottle of Realime in the fridge as a backup to running out of other juices. A splash to vodka rocks for sipping, like a martini.

            My gawd, I sound like such an alkie right now. I gave up wine a couple of years ago, it was messing me up….by the box 😀

          • Somebody says:

            Nah, I buy the syrup all the time always have some on hand. My daughters medical team had us give it to her when she was on chemo. Basically as a prophylactic if/when we went to Disney and also during cold and flu season or if exposed to a known sick person.

            The syrup was in addition to masks, hand sanitizer, etc.

            Her medical team were big believers in that and probiotics. Plus leukemia kids are always on prophylactic antibiotics. My daughter was on two because she developed recurrent UTI’s 🙄 Briefly a 3rd one when one of her BFF’s at the clinic got something, can’t remember, but I remember it was something serious.

            I just remember she was hanging with us in the treatment room, along with about 5 or 6 other chemo kids. Hubby and I ordered pizza for everyone and I played Moose in the House card game with them…….all of them were put on this inhaled antibiotic for a brief period, just in case……oh and the girl was isolated until she was clear, made my daughter so upset they were close. They used to curl up in the bed with each other, until this happened then no more. To quote my daughter the doctors became “fun suckers” 😂😂😂

            I researched it and found there is scientific data behind it inhibiting certain viruses from replicating. So since then I always have several bottles on hand. I’ve never used the gummies but I just bought some for the G-kids.

            FYI, the Gaia brand, which is the 2nd down at your link is rather tart. Nature’s way and the original Sambucol are sweet. Those are the only kinds I’ve tried as far as I can recall.

      • Constance says:

        That’s the thing, we don’t know the mortality. But the mortality rate will surely go way down once they diagnose the mild cases or symptom free cases with antibody tests. It looks like people who need and get respiratory therapy live. Thank God we don’t have a government run health system! I heard there are 20 vaccines considered in tests and the Israelis have a vaccine ready to go.

        • Somebody says:

          Did you read about the Israeli vaccine? It’s made from elderberry, totally NOT kidding. It’s an oral vaccine. It’s based on one they were working on for chickens. They changed the DNA for humans??? So clearly there is more to it than elderberry extract, but their research showed elderberry effective in preventing coronavirus from replicating.

          • Constance says:

            Cool! I only scanned the article once I figured out it had technical info in it. It did sound like an unusual type of vaccine that broke up mucus? So does that mean they can give it after you have the virus rather than as a preventative? That seems like it would be a very effective way to vaccinate because you don’t have to round up a bunch of people who are healthy you can wait until they are sick and come looking for you.

  28. Dora says:

  29. Dora says:

    I think Diamond likes our president. –

  30. Dora says:

    More bad news for Joe Biden clan: Judge orders Hunter Biden to appear for sworn testimony

    ‘Unless his hair is on fire, he needs to be in Arkansas’ to testify

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/judge-orders-hunter-biden-to-appear-for-sworn-testimony

  31. taw46 says:

    Another cruise ship denied docking.

  32. Dora says:

  33. Dora says:

    • Mothy67 says:

      We have a decent sized shopping center at the top of my hill with several offices. I noticed a lot of mostly young men smoking in groups. I thought it was possibly a call center. Nope it is outpatient rehab. I am all for treatment over incarceration, but I feel that a community should be informed. I let the brat walk up there with friends and several of these guys look hard core. I know that I may sound callous but I don’t care.

  34. Dora says:

    “Pope Francis is still unwell and has postponed all official audiences for Friday, the Vatican confirms without detailing his sickness

    Francis has scrapped an audience with Microsoft, IBM and other tech executives
    Yesterday he called off an appearance at a Mass with other clergymen in Rome
    The Vatican says he is ‘slightly unwell’ but has offered no details on his illness
    Italy is facing Europe’s worst coronavirus crisis, though few cases are in Rome ”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8055623/Pope-Francis-slightly-unwell-cancels-public-appointments.html

    • Mothy67 says:

      Perhaps its his conscience. Seems unlikely he would show symptoms after being exposed on Wednesday.

      • votermom says:

        good thing we have a back up pope! 😁

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        It was almost immediately after the visit that they put out the statement that he was ill. Could be any number of things including:

        He was already ill and may have infected others (thanks Frank!).

        They have him quarantined to be one the safe side but do not want to use that term to avoid panic.

        Psychosomatic – or in layman’s terms – Conscience is – as Mothy suggests – snipping at him.

  35. Mothy67 says:

    Ordered the elderberry gummies from amazon- can’t hurt.
    Dont forget VM’s link.

    • lyn says:

      I tried elderberry wine. It was awful.

      • Somebody says:

        It probably wouldn’t help anyway. Most of the commercial elderberry wine only has flavoring added to it and not much at that.

    • cynic says:

      My friend makes her own elderberry syrup. She and her husband will be returning in a few days from their two week vacation on the big Island I suppose she’ll be downing the stuff when they return.

      Every Tue., we meet them along with three other couples at a bar. It’s $2.50 hamburger night. One of the other couples has been on a cruise to the Panama Canal, and will be returning hopefully, in another week.

      I’m a little hesitant in us returning for our weekly suppers once they get back. Husband will definitely be going, so seriously, what good would it do me to stay home!

      Here’s a recipe for making your own syrup:
      https://wellnessmama.com/1888/elderberry-syrup/

  36. Mothy67 says:

    Another thing about the market. I think 5 major CEOs stepped down this week. Is there more going on than the virus? Something more sinister.

    • Constance says:

      A lot of companies who didn’t want to rock the boat but needed to make changes are taking advantage of the market chaos and making changes while no one is looking and the market is diving. These changes should also help in the long run.

  37. Mothy67 says:

    To lazy to look it up and do the math, but is the % of the population infected in SK now higher than in China. China has over a billion people and SK has what 30 million?

  38. Mothy67 says:

    My God. Some one stop the madness.
    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1233446170460131332I

    But let Trump misspell a word in a tweet.

  39. lateblum says:

    AOC is challenging Sen.Ted Cruz to some sort of debate re the Constitution. What an idiot.
    My favorite response:

  40. Dora says:

    BAD ACTORS ARE CRASHING THE MARKETS: To Stop the Current Short Sale Attack on the Stock Market President Trump Must Reinstate the Uptick Rule

    Bad actors are using the Coronavirus news to try to cause a market panic.

    They are making a killing by short selling, and they are going to tank the Trump economy.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/bad-actors-are-crashing-the-markets-to-stop-the-current-short-sale-attack-on-the-stock-market-president-trump-must-reinstate-the-uptick-rule/

  41. lyn says:

    Taylor Swift as a man looked like Justin.

  42. foxyladi14 says:

    “The law grants the president the power to expand industrial production of key materials or products for national security and other reasons.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-trump-considers-invoking-special-powers-to-rapidly-combat-coronavirus

    • Mothy67 says:

      If China can build a hospital in days we can get our act together and make face masks. You would think the greenies would favor domestic production as it reduces shipping costs.

  43. foxyladi14 says:

    News is that The Galilee Research Institute already has a vaccine for Coronavirus.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/bds-this-israel-makes-exciting-breakthrough-in-race-for-coronavirus-vaccine

  44. Dora says:

    TV Doctors Furious, ‘Overblown Press Created Hysteria’ Over Coronavirus, ‘President Trump Is Absolutely Correct’

    https://sabiareport.com/tv-doctors-furious-overblown-press-created-hysteria-over-coronavirus-president-trump-is-correct/

  45. DeniseVB says:

    No surprise, just wondering why Fox didn’t put Red Eye in the 11pm spot years ago. It still beat the network “funny people” (groan) at 3 a.m. every night.

  46. Mothy67 says:

    Shannon Bream is a bit bland for me at 11, especially on the days when I watch from 8 to 11.Same with MacCallum at 7. I would do a straight news show at 11without commentators. Like the networks used to do or a comedy like GG.

  47. Mothy67 says:

    Question about student loan forgiveness- wouldn’t it only apply to guarenteed student loans? Not PLUS loans or private ones . These people with 250,000 dollars of debt would still have large debt. Not that it will ever pass.

  48. Dora says:

    Coronavirus In New York Is ‘Inevitable,’ Cuomo Says

    The governor said it was important for all local health departments to be following the proper protocols.

    https://patch.com/new-york/newrochelle/coronavirus-new-york-inevitable-cuomo-says

  49. John Denney says:

    FB friends are expressing concern that evil corporations are jacking up the price of insulin just to rack up profits, exploiting the 30 million U.S. citizens who can’t live without it. Of course they’re saying the Fed gov should steo in and establish price controls.

    So I ask, why doesn’t someone start a non-profit insulin company? If 30 million diabetics each contributed $35 to a goFundMe account to fund the startup, the account would have a billion dollars. You’d think that’d be enough. And there’s all kinds of energetic young college grads just itching to do something meaningful with their lives now that they know everything. So do this, then, smarty pants.

    Libert, property Rights, and freedom of association can accomplish amazing things, but too many people think the government should just do it.

    • Somebody says:

      They should go to Wal-Mart they have several types of insulin at very affordable prices. They’re so evil 🙄 My dog was diabetic and the animal insulin from pigs didn’t work for her, so she was switched to human insulin. I had to pay out of pocket and yes it’s expensive. I quickly found Wal-Mart and luckily they offered the insulin she was on for a fraction of the price elsewhere

      That being said, there is price gouging in the US on insulin. You can get it for pennies on the dollar in Mexico and Canada. Your FB friends may not want to hear it, but the Trump administration is trying to stop that kind of price gouging of the US consumer and level drug prices across the globe. Most Americans have some awareness that drugs are cheaper in other countries but most have no idea how much more we here in the US pay. In some cases 10 times or more the price. It’s like a hidden tax or forced foreign aid. We pay more so the rest of the world can pay less and it impacts the sickest amongst us.

  50. Dora says:

  51. Mothy67 says:

    The only thing I could find with elderberries was manischewitz. No vodka at my state store. It tastes lke altar wine, but I am taking one for the team. I bet there is a run on products made from them as both women in the store had recently heard of the positive effects.

    • Somebody says:

      That wine only has flavoring you’d have to drink the whole bottle to get the amount of elderberry essence you could get in a gummy or a spoonful of syrup. It also isn’t very good wine so it’s not like you’re OK I’ll drink a bottle at a time

      • Mothy67 says:

        Too late. I might open the second bottle.( I blame Trump- this speech!) It goes well as a smoothie. My gummies arrive tomorrow. Lots of great benefits from the berries. Blood sugar, heart, et al.19 cents a day!

  52. lyn says:

    Bookie is there!

  53. Mothy67 says:

    I ordered two more bottles of elderberry gummies for others. It can’t hurt. I think it was like 19 cents a day and they have additional health benefits.

  54. Mothy67 says:

    Trump is on 🔥🔥🔥

  55. Mothy67 says:

    I thought that was one of his top ten speeches. Funny, playful, self deprecating. He had the crowd decide which dim to vote for tomorrow as SC is open. The fake news will be screaming for days about election interference. I am sure he checked out the legalities beforehand. He sure enjoys going after msm.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Agree. I think he had more energy than usual. India and the two recent court rulings in his favor probably helped. Also I have a sneaking suspicion he’s realized the timing of the virus and the stock market are in his favor. Namely the virus will run its course and the market will shoot up in very good timing for his campaigning. 🙂

    • DeniseVB says:

      That was fun to watch and glad he’s punching back at the Dims and msm. He even knocked Fox’s sh*tty pollster 🙂

  56. votermom says:

  57. Mothy67 says:

    Bwahahahahahaha
    Dims are RACIST

  58. Mothy67 says:

    Kiss of death- freak peter daou is backing bernie
    https://mobile.twitter.com/OrdyPackard/status/1233579657007697920

  59. Mothy67 says:

    Oh my please get these people help

  60. Mothy67 says:

    Somebody told me I had to drink the whole body of Manischewitz in order to get the RDA of elderberry. Not my fault! I blame her.
    Anyhow wondering what it’s like to be steyer or mini mike. Two people who have not heard no in decades, pweful wealthy men becoming the butt of jokes by Trump. They are being laughed st by the peasants.,
    The gnashing of teeth on twitter over Ratcliffe for DNI is only making my wine buzz all the more enjoyable. They have to accept the nomination or deal with Grenell. He really is a stable genius.
    The thought of Trump and bernie on a debate stage together!!!! bernie will explode and Trump will push his buttons to get him there.

    • Constance says:

      I hope the Dems make a complete idiotic spectacle of themselves at their convention. Steyer and Mini Mike have blown a lot of money and now they have undoubtedly lost a lot of money in the market too. Of course super rich dudes like that will likely buy heavily next week and come out even richer than ever a few months from now.

  61. Mothy67 says:

  62. Island Girl says:

    It is cold and windy here on Kauai and one of our council members was just arrested for being a ringleader in a huge meth operation with a10-12 other losers.

  63. Mothy67 says:

    A dance to dissuade migrant rape in Europe someone did this.

  64. Great verse! Awareness is the necessity of today’s situation. People have so many theories in mind and it all leads them to fear.

    I have done some research and added popular rumors and theories in my article that will allow readers to know the facts of the matter and it will also help people to learn how they can protect themselves.

    I have taken information from trusted and direct resources like WHO and CDC

    https://www.miniwrites.com/coronavirus-theories-definition-origin-symptoms-treatments-and-prevention.html

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