The Russian Collusion Delusion Dies With A Whimper, Not A Bang

It started with nothing, and ended the same way.

DOJ Drops Charges Against Alleged Russian ‘Troll Farms’

In the latest development that has further debunked the “Russian interference” narrative, the Department of Justice on Monday filed a motion to drop its prosecution of two Russian companies that have been accused of running “troll farms” during the 2016 election, as reported by Fox News.

The DOJ was granted its request by a federal judge to drop charges of “conspiring to defraud U.S. agencies” as a result of alleged election interference, which the Left had claimed was due to these companies and other Russian entities setting up “troll farms” to spread memes and disinformation during the election.

The charges against Concord Management and Consulting LLC, and Concord Catering, were thus dropped. As the charged individuals were all Russian nationals, they were unlikely to face any actual punishment, and pursuing such charges could have presented a threat to America’s national security. In response to the charges originally filed by Robert Mueller’s special counsel investigation, Concord had actually entered an appearance in federal court vowing to contest the charges, which was an unexpected move for the Mueller team.

There was never any concrete evidence of “troll farming” or any Russian interference in the 2016 election. The additional allegations of “collusion” between President Donald Trump’s campaign and the Russian government was eventually debunked by Mueller’s own investigation.

They say that “News is the first draft of history.” I truly hope that one day historians will set the record straight. The news media sure as hell ain’t gonna do it because they were complicit. But considering that academia is even more Leftist than the news media, I won’t hold my breath.

Ever since Operation Impeach Trump started on Election Night 2016 we have been told (by the news media and other Democrats) that the inquisitors and persecutors working for Bungling Bob Mueller were experienced nonpartisan professionals who were above reproach. To even question their expertise, impartiality, and/or patriotism was to undermine THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

In reality, the Mueller Mob was the gang that couldn’t shoot straight.

In my experience, there are three kinds of prosecutors. First of all, there are the professionals. These are the attorneys who make up the vast majority of federal, state and local prosecutors. Their ambitions begin and end inside of a courtroom, either as a prosecutor, a defense attorney, or a judge. But to them, when it comes down to it, being a prosecutor is just a job.

The second group are the ones I call the “true believers.” These are the crusaders who typically gravitate to sex crimes or domestic violence. They see the position of “prosecutor” as a calling rather than a job. They are humorless fanatics with personal issues that compel them.

Lastly, there are the political prosecutors. There are the ones for whom trying cases is just a stepping stone on the way to bigger and better things. A perfect example of a political prosecutor is Kamala Harris. Her ambitions have always been much higher than working in a courtroom.

A prosecutor from any of the three groups can be ethical and professional, but political prosecutors are the ones most likely to be amoral political hacks. Sometimes they are almost sociopathic.

The Mueller Mob was made up entirely of political prosecutors.

Sleazy and dishonest defense attorneys are no threat to our system of justice because they have very little power. The worst they can do is help a few guilty clients go free. Corrupt prosecutors are a threat to our system of justice as well as our political system. That’s because prosecutors have enormous power – in some ways even more than judges. A judge can dismiss a case, but he cannot force a prosecutor to file one. A judge’s dismissal of a case can be appealed, but there is no appeal for a prosecutor’s exercise of discretion in refusing to prosecute a case.

The Mueller Mob was certainly corrupt – they knew from the outset that there was no collusion. They knew this because the Deep State told them so. The idea of Russian collusion came from the Hillary campaign, but the Deep Staters handled the details of the actual frame-up.

The basic allegation was that Trump and his minions conspired with Russia to meddle in the 2016 election. The unspoken assumption was that Russian meddling is the reason that Trump won. I don’t think anyone disputes that Russia did some meddling, but all I have seen proof of is that Russia paid a couple hundred thou on some Facebook ads. There is absolutely no evidence to support the contention that Russian hackers were able to hack into voting systems and change the vote totals.

There is an allegation that Russian hackers accessed the DNC computer and stole John Podesta’s emails, which they then gave to Wikileaks to publish. Wikileaks denies this and says that the material they published was from a source inside the DNC.

This will never be proven either way because the Democrats refused to allow the FBI to examine their server and its current whereabouts is somewhere in the vicinity of Jimmy Hoffa.

You do not need to show that a crime was committed to prove conspiracy, you need only show that two or more people acted in concert to commit a crime and that there was some action taken in furtherance of that conspiracy. In practical terms, it is a lot easier to get a conviction when you can link the defendant to a crime and then convince the jury to infer that the defendant acted in concert with others to commit it.

So Mueller indicted some Russians for meddling. And he did not seal the indictment. The charges were taken by the media as proof of Russian meddling and all that was needed now was to connect them to Trump. Trump was not indicted, which forced the news media to resurrect the term “unindicted co-conspirator.” Nonetheless, Democrats celebrated and Nasty Nana had so many vodka mimosas at lunch she took an unplanned nap at her desk.

I think it was Andrew McCarthy at National Review who pointed out that there was something fishy about the indictment. Since all 13 of the individuals that were indicted were then in Russia it was unlikely that any of them would voluntarily submit to extradition.

The Ivy League geniuses in the Mueller Mob must have thought this was a smooth move. If no one was arrested and brought to court the prosecution didn’t have to prove anything, nor were they obligated to provide Brady material to the defense.

It turns out that those Ivy League geniuses weren’t as smart as they thought they were. They indicted 13 Russians and 3 Russian companies. Unlike real people, corporations appear in court by and thru the corporation’s attorneys. I would have loved to see the faces of the Mueller Mob when the attorneys for Concord Management and Consulting LLC showed up in court, entered a not guilty plea and demanded that the prosecution provide disclosure of all the evidence against their client.

I guess I should point out that Mueller was not appointed to get to the bottom of what happened in the 2016 election or to figure out how Trump beat Hillary. Mueller was hired to establish a basis to impeach Donald Trump and remove him from office. There were multiple efforts to overturn the election, beginning with demands for recounts and efforts to subvert the Electoral College.

The original scheme was based on the assumption that Trump would be a lousy President who would become even less popular as time went by. They also assumed that even if there was no collusion that the investigation would uncover enough dirt to justify Trump’s removal. All they needed was enough GOPers in Congress willing to stick a shiv in Trump’s back.

You may recall that the NeverTrumpers expected Republicans who voted for Trump to recant their support and come crawling back to Loserville. Unfortunately for Ryan’s RINOs, NeverTrumpers, the media, and other Democrats, Trump turned out to be pretty darn good at presidentin’ and stuff. His base was united in supporting him and some NeverTrumpers abandoned their resistance and returned to the GOP fold.

But that was 2017. 2018 was an election year. All Mueller had to do was keep his investigation going until after the election. So he did. I don’t know why people voted the way they did in November 2018, but everyone who voted did so while the Mueller Report was pending.

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271 Responses to The Russian Collusion Delusion Dies With A Whimper, Not A Bang

  1. lyn says:

    Excellent post!

    • taw46 says:

      Yes, glad you wrote a post about this. Mark Steyn was covering for Rush yesterday, and this was one of his main topics. The company was smeared and fought back, something Mueller and his dummies never expected. Of course, MSM will never cover this.

    • Island Girl says:

      Hell to the yes, I am so still absorbing it all!

  2. lateblum says:

    Excellent, klown!!

  3. DandyTIger says:

    Well, there goes the WV record. One person tested positive. But it’s in the eastern panhandle, and I’m not sure that really counts.

    • Myiq2xu™ says:

      It is generally a good idea to make sure that there isn’t a parked car or something under the leaves before leaping. Especially if you are leaping into the pile from a roof. #protip

    • elliesmom says:

      That almost makes we want to rake up all the leaves I didn’t rake up last fall for Ellie, but I don’t think she’d jump in. I took her to agility class, and she did everything, including walking up the big seesaw, but when she got to the tunnel, she balked and wouldn’t go through it. Not even my crawling through it and coaxing her to come with me would budge her. She walked around it and waited for me to come out the other end.

  4. Mothy67 says:

    I am stunned by the number of people I know who are completely fucked by Wuhan. Adults my age that do not have credit to live off. My nephews and nieces are even worse off. I can go two years on credit. So many are one paycheck away from losing everything. And I mean home and car. Three of my nephews and my niece were told to file for unemployment. They do not have 50 dollars in the bank. They are late 20’s, early 30s. How do you not have a 401. My neighbor tended bar. They are closed. Her unemployment might cover a food bill for her and her 2 kids. The place had poker machines. She did not make 500 a night selling 2 dollar beers. The money came from the gamblers. It’s gone and she has rent and a hefty car payment. My sister in law took out a loan similar to a PLUS loan to cover Lexi’s room and board. She pays about 700 over the cost. It is only four years and is similar to just making payments. The payments though are close to 900 a month. Her job is gone. My SIL has never kept a job. She actually strapped on boots and went to work for her daughter. She punched a clock because as lazy as she is her child mattered more. Her husband, my brother, was a boilermaker. It takes years unless you are illegal to get to the point where you make 100 an hour. Steve walked away from the job because he had a daughter going to college. He went to work in a mill for his kid. He could make 175 one year and then 5 thousand the next year. He did it for his baby girl. Alexis got fucked. She had all A’s but her high school was a joke. She had AP chemistry but did know not why ice floats. She wanted to quit nursing school. I said oh fuck no. Buckle down. She retook all her classes and scored 100%. She was prepared to drop out. She is on track to get an advanced degree in the numb stuff. I cannot spell anesthiologist. So many letters. I
    Alexis Noel will always have me getting her back. I would step on a grenade for half my kin. The other half can fuck off.

  5. swanspirit says:

  6. Angie says:

    Great post, Klown.

    I’ll just add that Ryan & 40 GOPe incumbents helped to tank the 2018 House election by not seeking reelection. They willingly gave up the incumbent advantage to help the Democrats take the House as their was no way a House in GOP control (even nominal) could lead impeachment againt Trump. They thought they’d win the Senate too.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Yep. I’m still waiting for that Ryan bastard to rear his smirking head in politics again.

    • Constance says:

      I hadn’t thought of that snake Ryan in awhile. I wonder what he is up to. I wonder if all those GOPe twits are going to try a comeback in 2024. They are sure a bunch of losers. There is no question I’m voting for President Trump but I am not a Republican. I don’t really think they get that.

    • lyn says:

      Loved that!

    • lateblum says:

      That was wonderful! I wish my family-in-law(s) all 80-plus of them could see this. They would love it. Some of them have never been “back” to the old country, but many of them visit annually. I think the family trip might be cancelled this year, or maybe postponed. But they are sooooo Irish ☘️And it was great fun to be a part of them and their Irish-ness.

  7. Dora says:

    My God! It sounds like the whole state is locked up!


    Central Coast counties have issued shelter-in-place orders. Here’s what you need to know

    SALINAS, Calif. — A large portion of Central Coast residents are required to stay home except for essential needs as of March 18 due to the spread of the coronavirus.

    San Benito County, Santa Cruz County and Monterey County have issued shelter-in-place orders, following in the footsteps of six San Francisco Bay Area counties that have issued similar orders that will last at least three weeks.

    • Somebody says:

      Wow that includes Dweet.

      My BIL is antsy, packed up camping gear and is heading out first thing this morning into the wilderness. The lockdown in SF freaked him out, so too the bare grocery aisles. They are in OC, he’s been harping on my sister that the lockdown will move south. Sis says she’s not going anywhere. He told her suit yourself. Not sure where he’s headed, north and east I presume. He typically goes fly fishing in the spring, so I’m sure he’ll head to one of his favorite fishing spots.

    • Anthony says:

      I heard from a reliable source that NYC residents will be ordered to shelter in place beginning Friday. Everything I’ve worked for goes down the toilet if this happens

  8. taw46 says:

    So, all bars/nightclubs were to close at 5:00pm yesterday, on order of FL governor. I saw on FB this morning that several bars were open and packed last night on Duval street. All spring breakers, I am sure. What now? Charges for the bar owners? I also read that a person who owns several restaurants here intends to keep them open. He is following the governor who says they can stay open, but must reduce seating capacity by 50%. He is defying our mayor, who closed them to onsite seating, only takeout and delivery. What now? Interesting times. (The governor set the guidelines for the restaurants, but left it to local government to make decisions for their towns.)

    • Somebody says:

      We have a lot of little dictator mayors in Florida don’t we? They seem to all be floating to the surface. Where I live is “rural” or at least once was, we don’t have a mayor only a county commission.

    • Constance says:

      Young people aren’t sick and none of their friends are sick. They naturally have a lot of energy. You can’t keep them cooped up for long. It doesn’t seem rational to lock up everyone for what seems to be a nursing home disease. That is why people are stocking up on food and buying weapons and more ammo. They are waiting for the real reason to be revealed and they believe there is a real reason and Covid-19 is a scam.

    • lateblum says:

      We are creating a list of restaurants that will remain open for carry-outs and delivery service on the Nextdoor bloggie thing here. I’ve called a few places. One says they’ll on,y be open for two weeks. But if they do well, maybe they’ll reconsider. A couple of places have signs posted on their doors and windows. There is a VERY popular middle eastern restaurant in Chicago that opened here just weeks ago. I hope they make it to the list. And I also hope they survive. Getting them here was a wonderful thing. Almost all our restaurants are locally owned. Very few chains are here despite the presence of the university. So, I’m going out to check on some places now to contribute to the list.
      I’ll be back later on.

      • taw46 says:

        All locally owned restaurants in KW, no chains. Many of them are now open for takeout/delivery. But I fear that won’t last long. The locals are all for it now, but really, how many will go pick up food that often. I fear they will just eat at home and some of these wonderful restaurants won’t make it. And the bars, they are closed for 30 days. Who has that kind of money to keep operating? KW rent is so high. I am not optimistic. ☹️

  9. Dora says:

  10. Dora says:

    NYS is having similar problems to Florida. I’m sure other states are too as the politicians battle each other for power.


    Mayor de Blasio, Gov. Cuomo spar over whether NYC will face ‘shelter in place’ order as coronavirus cases in the five boroughs climb above 900

    • Anthony says:

      I heard last night from someone who had a conversation with the president of Cornell Weill that shelter in place is 99-100% happening in NYC on Friday.

      I’ve been one of the loudest voices saying to chill out and stop panicking, but my gut feeling is that its more likely to happen than not.

      • Mothy67 says:

        I have friends there that are leaving everything behind. The cannot pay rent. Cannot sell things. They tended bar and waited tables. There is no income. None. They say it is worse than after 9/11.

        • Anthony says:

          Haven’t heard that (yet), but bars/restaurants closed only 2 days ago, so maybe they should’ve stuck around a bit longer. Things were slowing down, but patrons were tipping bigger. New regs via Trump allows them half of their pay and full temporary
          unemployment benefits with the employer getting a tax break for providing 50% income.

          A lot of friends and clients from out of state are calling me, hysterical about my wellbeing at the ‘epicentet’ (eye roll) but I have to say that things here aren’t even a fraction as chaotic and apocalyptic as some news outlets are portraying. We’re all aware if what’s up and being appropriately cautious, but everyone I encounter is in good humor and expressing solidarity like I haven’t seen since 9/11.

          My only concern is financial. Self employed, no employees to support in exchange for aid packages. I’m kinda fucked, but I’ve been through worse…

      • Dora says:

        Anthony, I’m like you in that I didn’t think things were as bad as the media was proclaiming. They tend to get hysterical at nothing. By now though, I am also getting that feeling in my gut.

        I’m so sorry that you have to go through financial concerns. I do hope that everything turns out alright. For you and for everyone.

    • Constance says:

      They could pull off a shelter in place order for people over 60 without a problem but shelter in place all ages won’t hold. They don’t have enough ventilators but do they have enough jail cells?

      • 49erDweet says:

        We oldies ain’t taking SIP very well, either. I’m definitely going out and about by Friday, worst case. Just to stick out my tongue to the PTB.

        • Constance says:

          Someone sent me the meme “Knitters and Crafters don’t panic about Shelter in Place orders. We’ve been training for this all our lives!”

  11. Mothy67 says:

    So I was paying my sisters bills for months. I tried to play attorney and help her file for divorce. It was hell filing from another state as a non lawyer. I went through so much ink printing stuff. She lied to me she was getting a thousand dollars a month from her ex and he was paying her insurance. She has no bills that I did not pay. People do not change. My sister always has a bad ex. Never her fault always the guy. She is Shayla’s grandmother. Has not called once during the apocalypse. Not one time has she phoned with the phone I pay for to ask about her granddaughter.. I shut everything off today. I should have known better but she is my sister.

    • votermom says:

      I’m sorry, Mothy

    • lateblum says:

      You are such a good soul. It must really hurt to be continually disregarded and used by your sister. It also must really hurt to have “shut it down”. I’m sorry, too, Mothy.

      • Mothy67 says:

        Not really. I am an asshole. I would really like to walk around telling everyone to fuck the fuck off. I honestly just met shaypup at the right time. She is nasty. I knock on her door. She yells go away you are annoying. I check on her several times a night. She always tells me how much I suck. She seems to have only word. Annoying. I am annoying. She can piss off. I am always going to be checking on her. She hates me but she will always be my best friend. She came to me about advanced classes. I said take math and english honors. You are a mini adult. I am not making you study. She is an athlete. I was fine with generic classes. Baby brat enrolled in all honors. Was not my wish. I am ANNOYING. I let her chose. I still get to be annoying. That is all I am— annoying.

  12. votermom says:

    FB says they are giving $100M as aid to small businesses mostly as grants.

    Go check if you have a small biz – it would be great if some of that woke money went to good guys

    • DeniseVB says:

      Government grants should only go to taxpaying citizens, we built that 😉 Of course the Dems are fighting that and want everybody to get a piece of the pie, including those already on assistance. The party of the people, ya’know. Except the hard working, tax paying middle class.

  13. DeniseVB says:

    What could possibly go wrong? This seems to be inviting looting. Hope they don’t arrest homeowners/renters and small businesses for shooting them.

  14. taw46 says:

    • lateblum says:

      The Ds ran 3 others against her so the non-AA vote would be split. There was no way the DNC was gonna lose this one.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Chicago is such a cesspool. Not even a bit surprised.

      • lateblum says:

        Months ago I knew what was happening when I saw 3 others running against Foxx. At one time there was only one person, Donna More, a woman from Evanston, a woman with a clean record and endorsed by the Tribune, opposing Foxx. Suddenly, a white man, mostly unknown around here, and a sleazy Chicago-Italian Democrat, a long-time politician, whose name would be recognizable to most Democrats both appeared on the ballot as well. The writing was on the wall.
        I absolutely hate “the Party”. I suppose that statment alone will get me killed faster than COVID-19.

  15. DeniseVB says:

    Good job Florida ! Taw, you were a part of this !!!!

    • taw46 says:

      • taw46 says:

        Sorry, just meant to post, not nest under your comment.

      • foxyladi14 says:


      • Constance says:

        WOW. I know someone who stores guns for Canucks. I wonder if Canada shut the border before their citizens can start sneaking their guns in. This is good for us because Vancouver BC does a lot of business with China and I think that is how Covid-19 got into Washington state. Probably an illegal food worker in the nursing home kitchen.

    • lateblum says:

      I swear to you, my D friends continue to push “Russia, Russia, Russia!” and “Joe is fine. He just has a stutter.” There is no replacing brainwashing if you don’t want to replace it.

      • Constance says:

        I finally stopped following a very old friend on FB who was my last Trump hating fool friend. I’ve had it with their BS.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Never did buy into Russia, Russia, Russia crap. First of all, not one Russian convinced me to vote for Trump. Secondly, wouldn’t they want a Democrat who are easily bought off to make stupid deals ? Obama’s “flexibility”? Hillary’s “uranium” ? Whatever tf that was pallets of cash to Iran? China loved Dems too. How did they get control of producing our drugs? /rant 😀

  16. taw46 says:

    • taw46 says:

      Another Razor tweet.

  17. DandyTIger says:

    Random thought: “Self made man” has a whole new meaning in the newly fashionable trans world.

  18. lateblum says:

    So an update here…
    I checked last week with the n.h. where my dd is being cared for. They had firm protocols in place and wouldn’t allow me to enter with “care packages” or anything else. They also explained to me what they were doing to keep the residents and the staff safe. (This was all before the guidelines that were set up by the CDC.)
    Yesterday, they hospitalized my dd for a cellulitis that hadn’t responded to oral antibiotics. She is a very anxious person and is very frightened about being hospitalized. We – the nursing staff at the n.h. as well as the nursing staff at the hospital, and I – have all tried to calm her. She has texted me 17 times and called 6 times since they advised her that she needed to be hospitalized.
    Although I am concerned, and I have acknowledged this to her. I have tried to put that aside to encourage her about normalizing her fears, trusting that her cellulitis will be addressed quickly, and she’ll be healthy and discharged and back “home” soon. I’ve given her some ideas about how to be more optimistic and to distract herself so that she can decrease her anxiety.
    The hospital is not permitting visitors anywhere in the building and they shared this info with her when she was admitted. They also assured hr that she would not be on a floor with people who have infectious illnesses. I think that second part was more reassuring to her.
    So that’s the update from here. And because you guys ar3 like family to me, I wanted to share this with you. Thanks for listening.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Thanks for the info. It’s a scary time and not being allowed visitors can really exacerbate the stress and anxiety. I hope she gets that taken care of and gets back out in better health.

    • elliesmom says:

      When my son was going through chemo, there was an outbreak of c-diff in the hospital. Rob always did his first day of chemo at the Jimmy Fund clinic, and then he moved over to the hospital. He was past the point of no return at the clinic so they moved him to the section of the hospital where they have the bone marrow transplant patients. Talk about isolation protocols. It was the toughest chemo treatment he went through because he was used to all of his teenage friends piling into the hospital to hang out with him. He was sicker with the chemo drugs, refused to eat, and we were there longer waiting for his body to signal it was safe to leave. I hope your dd’s stay is short. ❤

      • lateblum says:

        Thanks, em. I hope her stay is short as well. That had to have been so hard on him, and on you as well. I’m glad everything worked out. ❤️

    • votermom says:

      oh that’s tough
      prayers for your dd

    • lyn says:

      Praying that your daughter feels peace and she heals quickly. You are able to talk with her by cell phone?

      • lateblum says:

        She is so anxious that we’ve spoken and/or texted often since she found out she had to be hospitalized.
        Thank you for your prayers.

        • Somebody says:

          I’m glad that she has her cell so you two can keep in touch. I can imagine she feels so isolated, I’d be freaked out too. You’re such a calm, loving mother. My mom would be like, STFU you drama queen ….you think YOU have problems, I stubbed my toe and all you can do is think of yourself.

          Hopefully your daughter’s stay in the hospital and nursing home will be very short. Sending healing thoughts and prayers.

          • lateblum says:

            I’m hardly the calm mother, but I’m not the histrionic drama mama, either. Thanks for your thoughts and prayers. ❤️

    • Constance says:

      It sounds like a tough time but you are doing everything you can. So far the hospitals here are safe and they are also completely paranoid which is good. Sending prayers.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Much love to both of you. It is such an anxious time for all of us under these abnormal circumstances, I can’t imagine how hard it must be to pile on top of that these new worries. Keep in touch with updates ❤

    • swanspirit says:

      Sending distance healing to your dd, for her cellulitis, and her anxiety. Keep us postef. Hopefully, they will be discharging her soon.

  19. Dora says:

    Good Grief! What’s going to happen next?


    5.7-magnitude earthquake strikes near Salt Lake City, state’s largest quake since 1992

    The quake was reported shortly after 7 a.m. local time.

  20. Dora says:

    Does this mean martial law?

    • DeniseVB says:

      Just read that guy’s timeline, reminds me of those Q alerts. He also doesn’t post links to his “sources” but to trust him, his sources are reliable ?

  21. taw46 says:

    Even with decreased turnout due to Chinese virus fears, he got more votes than ever before, Rs and Ds!

  22. Myiq2xu™ says:

    This woman is my spirit animal.

  23. Miranda says:

    My local news says “960,000 coronavirus patients in the U.S. may need to be put on ventilators,” There are 200,000 cases worldwide, and not nearly that many have required ventilators. Monkeys may also fly from their butts (that would be exciting!).

  24. DeniseVB says:

    I think I’m related to these ladies, lol !

  25. elliesmom says:

    Now the Dow has lost everything it gained since Trump took office, how long before this is over?

  26. taw46 says:

    I am so sad today. I just found out that Al Worden, Apollo 15 astronaut, died in his sleep last night. I worked with him many times at Kennedy Space Center (Visitor’s Center). I just loved that man. He was lots of fun, warm and kind to all of the employees out there, and a wonderful storyteller. Falling to Earth: An Apollo 15 Astronaut’s Journey to the Moon tells his story. R.I.P. 😢

  27. lyn says:

    • DeniseVB says:

      Definitely Type 1. Lucky timing I guess, bought my quarterly supply of paper products a week before the TP Wars of 2020. I’m good for awhile.

      • swanspirit says:

        Definitely type1. Would be worse if I had more room, and more money. I even freeze and keep butter. I cannot remember the last time I bought just a dozen eggs. I usually have 30 to 40’rolls of toilet paper, but now I wish I had double that, with everyone going so crazy. I don’t have chickens, that lay eggs, but I have friends that do, and I save my egg cartons for them.
        I dream of having a butler’s pantry, and an extra fridge, and freezer. If I had a garage, I would be dangerous.

    • elliesmom says:

      Type 1. not a hoarder, but I always have one more of everything

      • DeniseVB says:

        If this goes on for weeks more, I may become a Type 2.

        • elliesmom says:

          I’m wondering if maybe I should fill up the empty spaces in the freezer.

          • Constance West says:

            I did. There is a farmers market that is going to open on Sunday in Ballard and I’m going to be there when it opens.

          • Somebody says:

            I did, OMG my freezers (fridge one and deep freeze) are slap full. They’re usually pretty well stocked, but a couple of weeks ago I cleaned out, organized and loaded them.

            My huge French door refrigerator is filled to the brim, but it’s always pretty full. It’s holiday full right now but we’re whittling away at it. I have two pantries that are always full. I replace stuff as I use it.

            We are definitely not going to starve, but I’ve always kept things well stocked “just in case”. Well it seems just in case has arrived.

            I worry about my son and grandkids, he says he’s fine but I haven’t taken inventory and I’m not sure. If push came to shove and we were under martial law, they only have to make it two blocks. From there, not pleasant but they could walk through the woods undetected. The woods at the edge of his neighborhood wind their way over here right behind my house. It’s probably less than 3 miles, closer to half that as the crow flies. He’s actually come that way once on a bike. There is path almost the entire way until close to my house.

            My oldest daughter is pretty much screwed, but there is nothing I can do she’s hundreds of miles away. She has protein shakes and a bunch of booze, very little of anything else. Her friends nearby have a garden so I keep reminding myself of that AND she has guinea pig food 😂😂😂

    • 49erDweet says:

      Type 1 PLUS! Laughing at the chaos and frustrated with the general stupidity.

    • taw46 says:

      Type 1, but do not have 50 rolls on hand. Maybe 25-30, lol.

      • Somebody says:

        25-30, rookie 😜 I have 110-120, depends on inventory in the bathrooms. No I didn’t hoard, I already had these. About 3-4 weeks ago Home Depot had 24 packs of Charmin for $12. I loaded up, with 3 granddaughters, my own daughter and me, we go through a lot of toilet paper. I normally don’t have this much on hand and hubby questioned me, but I told him this is a good deal.

        Then the great rush happened and he thinks I’m psychic 😂

  28. DeniseVB says:

    I know how close she was to her mom so this was sad. 99 is a good run ❤ I think Maggie was in the advance stages of dementia for quite some time, stopped recognizing Kathy about a year ago, so in a way, that's' when she lost her mom.

  29. Myiq2xu™ says:

    Apparently I woke up in Caracas this morning. I went down to the grocery store to see bare shelves. No milk, eggs, potatoes, bread, toilet paper, bleach, etc. Slim pickins on meat, fruit, and lots of other stuff. OTOH, plenty of tofu, organic veggies, and other vegan chow. When the apocalypse arrives vegans will survive because they’ll be the only ones who can still find food in stores.


    • DeniseVB says:

      I guess if you can consume it before the expiration date ? There were 6 kids in my family, I grew up on defrosted frozen milk and bread. Yccch. My parents were loyal commissary shoppers with a large freezer which was always stocked with milk and bread.

      • Constance says:

        Remember powdered skim milk? I do!

        • DeniseVB says:

          I remember my mom’s homemade baby formula. Kayro syrup, evaporated milk with a few drops of some vitamin? When our springer spaniel had 8 puppies and their mom’s milk didn’t come in, my mom made them the same formula, lol. Everybody seemed to thrive, the humans and fur kids.

        • DeniseVB says:

          We threw in some powdered whole milk on our last Amazon order.

    • taw46 says:

      I was in WinnDixie today. Of course, no toilet paper. They did have a few boxes of paper towels. Forget cleaners, wipes, hand sanitizers. Those are long gone. Some of their shelves are getting bare. Dairy products, meats, etc. Lots of bread, though!

      • Somebody says:

        That’s funny my Winn Dixie has no bread and precious few eggs, but plenty of meat AND drum roll……toilet paper and paper towel. Very limited amount at front of store guarded by two employees, strict limit 1 of each per customer.

      • elliesmom says:

        I have about 20 lbs of various kinds of flour in the house and a pint container of yeast. Flour, water, salt, and yeast are all I need to make bread. So, of course, that be will something that won’t run out. 🙂 I think I might need a couple of chickens, though.

        • elliesmom says:

          Live ones, that is. Good layers.

        • Somebody says:

          I bought a new bread machine about a month ago on a whim, haven’t used it yet. I didn’t use my old one much. I always ended up using my oven, old habits and all that.

          We took my old one to my son today, he was thrilled. The girls eat sandwiches a lot and there’s no bread in town. I got him two 5 pound bags of flour, he says he has yeast he bought back at Christmas. Bonus I scored two of those 3 packs of frozen bread dough for him too. 😁

    • Somebody says:

      My stores still have fresh milk. I’ve found it amusing that this entire time the shelf stable and powder milk has remained stocked. We went out and got my son some things this morning.

      He has a household of 4 and one dozen eggs. He said we’ll be fine, we just won’t eat eggs. The grandkids are so picky eggs are one of the few proteins they eat. I managed to score 4 dozen eggs and two cartons of egg beaters to stretch them. They are telling us until April 15th.

      They were finally out of powdered milk, but I have plenty I can share. They still had shelf stable milk so I got him 6 quarts.

  30. lateblum says:

    Couldn’t find the appropriate comment to add this to, so I’ll leave it here….

  31. lyn says:

    Perfect message …

  32. DeniseVB says:


  33. lyn says:

  34. lyn says:

    What’s up with Kung Flu? I think it should be the WuHu Flu.

  35. Dora says:

    Ford, GM, FCA to shut down all plants due to coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak

    UAW leader asked for closures

  36. lyn says:

    • lyn says:

  37. votermom says:

  38. SHV says:

    View this post on Instagram

    #coronavirus #glutenfree

    A post shared by GomerBlog (@gomerblog) on

  39. DeniseVB says:

  40. votermom says:

  41. SHV says:

    “Baltimore Mayor Begs Residents To Stop Shooting Each Other So Hospital Beds Can Be Used For Coronavirus Patients”
    Seven people shot Tuesday night and the report being PC, “Harrison said they are looking for a Silver Honda”…. absent a description of the person pulling the trigger.

  42. ginainmo says:

    PDJT looked exhausted during today’s presser. Sending him some extra prayers.

    • lateblum says:

      That’s what I thought when I caught part of it. I said – to no one in particular, “I don’t know how he is still awake. I’d be dead on the floor by now.”

    • DeniseVB says:

      He’s so worried about us too. The Dims are no help, they just keep braying Orange Man Bad, then do nothing.

  43. DeniseVB says:

    Test. If this will embed. LOL, it better with 9 lines of crap. If a video does not appear (trying a short cut from search, not YouTube directly) I’ll go back to the old fashioned way.

    On edit. Replaced link from hell with youtube’s. Howard Beale’s famous rant is eerily familiar to today’s idiot journOlism.

  44. Dora says:

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      The Swamp Viewpoint: let us get everyone into a panic that they might die from Foo Man Choo Flu but hey we need funds to kill babies.

      • lateblum says:

        I don’t know whether this is irony or hypocrisy. Can it be both?

        • Constance says:

          I think it is the Democrat version of planning ahead. There is undoubtedly going to be a baby boom from all of this anxiety and “working at home” and of course Democrats would try to prevent that.

  45. DeniseVB says:

    The future of our country? LOL.

  46. lyn says:

  47. 1539days says:

    The US is now ahead of South Korea in Coronavirus cases and may pass France. The increases will probably continue for another 2 weeks and may hit 30,000 before they level off. However, the US has nearly the lowest death rate among cases of COVID-19.

    • lyn says:

      More people have been tested.

    • Constance says:

      Washington state seems to be slowing down although there were 12 more deaths today. New York had less Covid-19 cases than WA on Sunday now they have more than twice as many. We started closing everything before NY so hopefully they will see a slow down soon. It’s much more lethal here in WA than it has been in NY. But could be that we just don’t have as good of testing.

      • 1539days says:

        Washington was earlier, but New York has been hit faster and harder. Also, deBlasio was trying not to “disrupt” NYC so he kept schools, bars and shopping open longer than he should have. By Saturday, Cuomo will force the city into lockdown if deBlasio doesn’t.

    • Somebody says:

      We have a lot more people than those two countries so it would stand to reason we’d have more cases.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      Cases per 1,000 for the USA is far lower. Although I have not run for Washington state, Cali or crazy nyc.

      • Constance says:

        Here in Washington so far it seems to be a nursing home disease. But testing has been limited so there could be lot of seemingly healthy Covid-19 spreaders around. The town in France that stopped the spread aggressively hunted down the healthy spreaders and locked them down.

  48. lyn says:

  49. swanspirit says:

  50. DandyTIger says:

  51. taw46 says:

    She and her Dad were just on FNC.

    • lateblum says:

      I saw that. It was very touching (and also informative). They were a nice father-daughter team. I thought.

      • lateblum says:

        It kinda reminded me of yesterday when I got my iPad password squared away and I finally able to use FaceTime. I called my dd#1 in Seattle and she laughed and cried at the same time. (I did too.) It was the first time since she moved there. I loved it! ❤

        • lyn says:

          Sweet! ❤

        • elliesmom says:

          I’ve been using my Kindle Fire to FaceTime with Crash. It’s small enough I can have it with me everywhere. If she calls, and I don’t answer right away, she panics. She was told she can’t go to school because she might get the virus and make her grandparents very sick. Since she just lost her beloved grandfather, she’s petrified I’m going to die from the virus. Her mother and I have tried to tell her I’m fine, but she needs the reassurance. I was out walking Ellie for about an hour yesterday, and she called me on the phone 3 times to make sure I was OK. I get they needed to give the kids a reason why school is closed when none of them are sick, but I’m not sure “You could kill your grandparents” was the best one for the little kids, I said something about maybe I could come and stay at her house for a few days, and she begged me not to come because she might make me sick and die.

    • Cisco says:

      A real great link, thanks lyn.
      So many to choose from.
      Any favorites?
      I don’t know where to start. 🤔

      • lyn says:

        Denise would know.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Personally, I’d pick Sweeney Todd first, it’s what got me hooked on Broadway 😀 Then of course Phantom and Joseph. Les Miz…… so many!!

        • lateblum says:

          I didn’t read it all, but I’d start with the oldies like 42nd Street or Kiss Me Kate. I’m more of a Cole Porter person than anything. I just noticed there is a link to opera. How nice! There is so much I don’t know about opera. Thanks, lyn.

  52. lyn says:

    • Constance says:

      President Trump should act to make it mandatory to offer cable TV a la carte so people can dump channels like CNN and MSNBC and drive the fake news out of business. Right now they sell ads by being in millions of homes. If people refuse to let those channels in their homes they will go out of business.

  53. lyn says:

  54. Myiq2xu™ says:

  55. SHV says:

    Worth a read:
    View at

    This article outlines the reason why the people “in charge” are scared shitless. My wife was just listening to a conference held in Boston a few days ago that discussed many aspects of the current situation. From the point of view of epidemiology the bottom line is to “blunt” the curve. We are 4-6 weeks(?) behind Wuhan and Northern Italy. If we have the same rate of infection curve (a spike) we will rapidly exceed the total ICU bed capacity of all US hospitals and shortly there after exceed total hospital bed capacity. That’s why the rate of infection needs to be dragged out by basically shutting down the Country.

    • lyn says:

      The projections of epidemiologist Neil Ferguson and his team at Imperial College are well worth reading. Another option for those facing a busy day (or coronavirus-information overload): a quick summary. Check out the following Twitter analysis of the report from Dixie State University history professor Jeremy C. Young.

      • 1539days says:

        I’ve understood this math for about a week now. Lacking a vaccine (months away) or a better treatment (who knows when), the mortality rate given an effective health care system is 0.5 to 1%. In a bad or overloaded system, it’s 4% or more. We have to pass through multiple 2-week incubation cycles before we clear out the COVID-19 cases since 3/12 where people didn’t know they had it and spread it to others. That could work by following limited exposure.

        If we go from pandemic to endemic, that means everyone (80%+) will be exposed and “get it.” With no vaccine, chains of contagion can’t be broken with vaccinated people. The “best case scenario” for an endemic virus is 6-12 months where there are enough hospital beds and ventilators, but 350 million *80% * 0.5% = 1.4 million Americans die.

        • Constance says:

          I think it is too late. It is already endemic. Only antibody testing will tell us that so they need to get a blood test going. It’s easier and cleaner to get the sample and you can tell what percentage have or had the disease.

    • Miranda says:

      We’re already at least semi-practicing isolation, so that should put a glitch in the rate of infection, at least outside the big cities.

  56. lyn says:

  57. Mothy67 says:

    My take on the great toilet paper wars of 2020.
    Do adults not stock up on everything. I don’t think I have bought a 4 pack since Shay was hatched. I go to Sam’s Club once a month. They always have some instant sale on household goods or frozen food. I buy beyond bulk when they take 5 dollars off. I have not bought trash bags in years because the Member’s Mark was 5 off. I bought 10 cases. Idid the same with tuna. It was 7.99 for 12 cans. I bought 12. I have 144 cans of tuna. I have 13 boxes of Texas toast in bulk. I have at least 10 bags of ravioli. Cases of soup. Shay gets on kicks. She will love grilled cheese with tomato soup for a week and then get bored. I buy cases of soup.i have cans and cans of everything. I really wanted to get rid of my sister. I hated her for phone bill. She is squating with her son. They do not pay rent or any bills. Now they have no food. Nothing to eat. This time i i said no. I am not feeding degenerates. Shay is my job. My poor my mom is 75. We have been dealing with my sister for 50 years. She is always calling after she gets beat up. There is nothing I can do. She leaves one guy and hooks up with a worse guy. I tried to help her. I have gone and sat there for chemo countless times. She is just about her and her loser kids. Her son knocked out his girlfriends teeth. My sister justifies spousal abuse. the woman is selling herself for a hit of smack. She has no front teeth. She sucks dick in men’s bathrooms. Shaypup will never be hurt by a guys fist. Not on my watch. The brat is and always will be my best friend. Her father, my nephew, cannot figure out how to eat after three days. Three days. I do not care. My brat is all that matters. Did you think I spent 100 thossnd fighting for her cause it was fun. I was never going to let him own her. He wanted to possess her. I cannot even count the days I spent in court. I had to pay an attorney he just filed and filed. Each time it cost me a thousand. We battled for years on end. We would go to court and he would be in jail. A judge finally ordered us all to get the MMPI. He failed. He is only allowed to see his kid in a psychiatrists office and he has to pay. He has not done so in three years. I fought and fought hard for my twerp. I call her mom all the time. My brat needs to know her mother. She has three kids. Her name is Kayla.
    She was in a place after Shayla was born. My nephew decided she was his for the taking. She had given birth and he forced her to have sex. Raped her. She was unable to be with her kid.
    I think it may be genetic. My nephew is the worst person I have ever met. I think he is borderline. Whatever.i was given enough to spare. Shay has never gotten a B. Straight As and sports. Her dad took out a loan to go to paralegal school. I think he is almost retarded. Like super dumb. He wanted to write legal briefs but did not know how to write on a first grade level. He does not know the difference between they’re, their, and there. He also had never played football but he triedout. The Batman movie that had Anne Hathaway as Cat women filmed here. My punk nephew auditioned for the lead. Just once buy socks.

    • swanspirit says:

      Tough love, is still love. It’s more than ok not to allow yourself to be used. My sister used to call and ask me for money. I set her up with a PayPal account, and a PayPal card, so I could instantly transfer money to her, and she could use her card to spend it. Then I found out she gets more on her disability benefits, than I get on Social Security.

      • Mothy67 says:

        I would not have cared about phone bill. I have T-mobile. It is insanely cheap. I pay 153 for five lines. Not the money it is the lies.

  58. Mothy67 says:

    I will pay four dollars if someone comes to my house and shoots me. I was out of oil so I used butter to make pot stickers. Butter fried junk. Just shoot me.

  59. DandyTIger says:

    Fun music to take our minds off the BS

  60. Constance says:

    I wish Trump would take the 5 stupidest reporters questions then say “today we are going to take some questions that have been emailed in” and take the 5 most relevant intelligent questions from the general public. I can’t figure out why these companies keep sending political reporters to a medical briefing on a crisis. They look like a bunch of vapid angsty high schoolers.

  61. DandyTIger says:

  62. Mothy67 says:

    Transgender people keep emailing me with lewd pics. I guess it took place when my Amex was stolen. I really do not ever need to see a penis stuffed in pantyhose. Not my thing. I tried to be nice. I was very calm and said i think you are misguided. I have transvestites attacking me because I politely said I am not into chicks with dicks. I am homophobic, racist, sexist, and most likely a serial killer. They have truly unleashed hate. All i said was please stop sending me penis pictures. I was trying to be nice. Now I am a hater and there is a gang of non binary people that want to beat me up. All i did was respond to a message from a stolen card. Oy vey.give me a corona

  63. Island Girl says:

    Filed our taxes on the Turbo cuz the state owes us, did the stupid census and survived a flood of sewer leak crap and much rain and mud. Also grateful for hubby’s bonus check in these crazy days.
    Trump 2020

  64. Dora says:


  65. Dora says:

    They all need a good smack!

  66. taw46 says:


  67. Dora says:

    Dark Money Progressive Groups Spending Millions to Politicize Coronavirus, Spread Fear

    Millions of Americans across the country are, day by day, adjusting their lives to better cope with the economic, social, and political impacts caused by the Chinese coronavirus pandemic, as a dark money network simultaneously works overtime to further politicize the festering crisis.

  68. DeniseVB says:

    Wut? Gawd, I hate the media……..

  69. Dora says:

    Scientist with 4 Degrees from MIT Warns ‘Deep State’ Using Coronavirus Fear-Mongering To Suppress Dissent

  70. DeniseVB says:

    New Thread Up, this one was ready to explode 😀

  71. taw46 says:

    I saw this on Tucker’s show last night. I hope this turns out to be true.

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