I was socially distant before social distancing was cool

It turns out that I’ve been training for social distancing my whole life. When I was a kid, Mom would tell the neighbor kids not to play with me because I was a bad influence. When I complained that I had no friends Mom said, “Friends are overrated. Now get back in the basement.”

“That’s not a basement, it’s just a crawl space.”

“Well, good thing you know how to crawl. Now git!”

The voices in my head wouldn’t talk to me. Even my imaginary friend wouldn’t play with me.

When I was married to my babymama her step-dad called me his “shun-in-law.”

This is an open thingie.

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290 Responses to I was socially distant before social distancing was cool

  1. Myiq2xu™ says:

    I was gonna do yard work (prep & plant) last weekend but it rained all weekend. Yesterday we had nice weather and I got most of the prep done. I woke up this morning to the sound of water coming down the downspout. Digging in adobe mud when it’s raining is considered torture in the Geneva Conventions.

  2. jeffhas says:

    So, I want to avoid the CoronaVirus as much as anyone, and I don’t want to see people die…. but…. I wonder if the medicine we’re being given (complete economic apocalypse) is worse then the illness.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm

    2019 Deaths by Unintentional Falls:
    36,000/yr
    99/day

    2019 Deaths by Unintentional Poisoning:
    64,000/yr
    175/day

    2019 Car Fatalities:
    38,800/yr
    106/day

    2019 Homicides:
    19,000/yr
    52/day

    2019 Suicides:
    47,000/yr
    128/day

    2019 Death by Drug Overdoses:
    70,000/yr
    191/day

    https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/common.html
    2019 Deaths by Cancer:
    696,000/yr
    1,660/day

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/27/health/heart-disease-stroke-diabetes-death-rates-study/index.html
    Annual Death by Heart Disease:
    647,000/yr
    1772/day

    Annual Death by Stroke:
    146,000/yr
    400/day

    Annual Death by Diabetes:
    83,500/yr
    228/day

    Annual Deaths by Hypertension:
    35,300/yr
    96/day

    https://time.com/5610878/2018-2019-flu-season/
    2019 Deaths by Flu:
    169/day
    62,000/yr

    I am interested in the opinions of others, maybe I’m just a callous A-hole…

    • 1539days says:

      So, if 80% of the US population gets coronavirus, the death total could be equal to all the cancer and heart disease deaths in a year. Now, there are vaccines in the works and drugs being tested, but 4% of worldwide COVID-19 cases have ended in death.
      The communicability of the disease is approximately 3. That means in 11 contacts almost everyone can have it. It probably wouldn’t be that fast because most people see the same people so it would take more time to jump from one cluster to another. It’s mostly a matter of time. Keeping Chinese travelers out was good, it reduced the number of clusters. Now, we have to cut off the chains of contact, which is the lockdown plan.
      This is the first time the world has tried to arrest a pandemic before it results in mass fatalities. We may be overreacting or these plans are completely useless. If this is really a booming economy, this kind of disruption will not create a long-term recession. However, it could exacerbate other problems.
      For political reasons, I doubt this lockdown will last much past April 1 unless the death toll spikes (1,000+). My personal opinion is that cheap air fares and overcrowded cities are the problem, however. We’ve probably just closed the barn door after the horse escaped.

      • jeffhas says:

        Thank you for that reply…. I want to hear all perspectives.

        I personally know hundreds of people who are unemployed now with no income; bartenders, waiters, waitresses, personal trainers, and a ton of ancillary people in those industries, most are young or struggling literally paycheck to paycheck (or great night of tips to great night of tips); laid off – maybe they get to come back… some day, maybe not. I agree April 1st is the tipping point… because most of these people I know are not paying their rent, house payment, etc., and the $1200 in the three weeks will not be in time, they are pooling their money for daily food and gas to find work, etc… i remember what it was like to starve to make ends meet, and these people are at least as freaked out as people who are worried about catching CoronaVirus.

        So my point was just trying to figure out why we haven’t risked this kind of money, resources and hardship on stamping out all those other illnesses? Are those deaths (every year) not worthy of closing Red Lobster ?

        I feel manipulated; by the media, leaders, etc who are forcing a different pain and suffering on people – I know business people who are wiped out, considering suicide! because their business is gone, no way of coming back. I’m not sure how many people are being negatively affected – or will die – because of this economic shutdown, but there will be damage, and who is keeping track of those stats? – not the media.

        • 1539days says:

          I refer to this as a time-based function. The more you lock down now, the better the chance is that letting up on it in 2-3 weeks will break the chain of infections. The rest of that stuff would happen even under a lockdown. By the way, my industry has been damaged by Chinese product shortages for at least 2 months, so there’s been an economic impact for a while.

          The evidence is that when restaurants and bars were open, people completely ignored social distancing and the businesses didn’t remove seats or do anything that would upset customers. Now, I understand bars are operating under the table for regulars like speakeasys. The government can’t send cops to watch patrons at every restaurant, but they can drive around and check that the parking lots are emptied out.

          After this virus, like 9/11, we have to look at what we can do in the future with technology and planning to prevent both an epidemic and an economic disaster. Even if this is a bad idea, there won’t be any data at all for 10-14 days due to the incubation of COVID-19.

          • jeffhas says:

            Yours are some of the most informative comments…. but I can’t help but feel like we handle contagions, diseases and illnesses every year – and ten of thousands of people die! – and we do not choose to destroy the economy as the cure for these… we recognize that the hundreds of millions of people who toil every day to keep this economy running are important as well…

            the economic society we have built that supports, saves and extends lives took billions of people and hundreds of years to create…. blowing it up even for a short time is worth discussing.

        • Jentx says:

          When God closes a door he opens one where I live you’re hired on the spot at all grocery stores including Costco Amazon if you want a job it’s out there and may not be the job you want but it’s a job and they’re starting pay at $20 an hour you can make do until this economy comes back and I believe the economy is strong enough that we will come back as soon as we beat this disease

          • jeffhas says:

            Yep! and I’ve mentioned this to most of the young people I know (WalMart too!), of course it’s a little tougher if you’ve put in 20 or 30 plus years and your life savings and more importantly, your life’s work, is tied to your business and ‘poof’ it’s gone, but hey, you’re still alive right?

          • Constance says:

            I agree I think a lot of the economy will come right back and I expect the restrictions at least in most of the country to be off by early April.

        • Somebody says:

          Cancer and heart disease are not contagious

          • jeffhas says:

            For sure.

            But we have contagious outbreaks every year; influenza, the common cold, Hepatitis and TB are constants… and thousands of people die from those each year – likely more then will die from CaronaVirus.

            I’m just askin’ the question as to what the balance should be.

            How many deaths from an illness does it take to justify the tanking of the economy? – I’m sure there are people that would say that ONE life is not worth any amount of $$…. so what happens when you destroy the livelihood of millions of people in the process?

            … and is it possible some of those people whose livelihoods are destroyed, that some of them may meet a fatal end as a result? suicide, hypertension (which kills 35,000 annually), heart stress, strokes, etc… ?

            Laws of nature vs. the Laws of Unintended Consequences.

            I can see the justification, but I also wonder what the consequences are, and if those consequences are worth the justification.

            I fee like it’s a conversation to be had… yet right now, there is no conversation, we’ve put the train on the tracks.

            I do think the new widespread awareness of social distancing, and prepping for viruses is a VERY good side effect of the CaronaVirus, one that will help in mitigating any contagious illness in the future…

        • Constance says:

          The media are a bunch of vile idiots with few exceptions. They have shown themselves to be so stupid the white house should limit all Corona briefings to reporters who have at least a BS in some science. I also find it odd that the establishment is willing to expect all service industry people to sacrifice for the vulnerable set of people. So I keep wondering what is the real reason for the lock down. I find it suspicious enough that I bought more ammo as well as more “earthquake” supplies.

    • elliesmom says:

      I don’t believe we should have closed all of the schools. Maybe in the hotspots, but not everywhere. There are any number of things that go around a school that could kill an old person or someone with a compromised immune system, but we haven’t closed school for them. In January my granddaughter’s 2nd grade class had a 25% absentee rate because of a flu-like bug, but they didn’t close school, and my daughter sent me the kids for the Martin Luther King long weekend. On the other side of the state one of the middle schools had to cancel a play because most of the cast was sick so the bug wasn’t limited to one school. They cancelled the play, but they didn’t close the school.
      In the meantime thousands of kids have lost their safe haven and their consistent source of food. What kids need most in times of stress is consistency. I was teaching during 9/11, and we worked overtime to make life as normal as we could. We never even considered closing school, and yet we had a lot of parents involved as far away as the Boston area. When schools first considered closing now, the plan, at least in the places where I have inside information, was to move spring vacation, but as soon as teachers knew they would still get paid and not have to make up the time at the end of the year, it became we’re closed “indefinitely”.
      I get the “flatten the curve” mentality, and there may be some sound science and medicine behind it, but the price we pay in what we’ve done to the kids is going to be high. I remained to be convinced it will be worth it.

      • Mothy67 says:

        I wondered about domestic violence. Stress levels go up. People trapped indoors all day. Some have no idea when they will see a paycheck.

        • jeffhas says:

          First we need to get booze and cigarettes to your home! That should reduce the stress level in your neck of the woods…

          … but I hear ya! We’ve never done this before – there is going to be quite a bit of unintended consequences I fear…. you’re right about DV, I think suicides as wel.

      • jeffhas says:

        “I remained to be convinced it will be worth it”

        My thoughts exactly… but not just schools, almost all businesses. I’m hard-pressed to believe there were no other safeguards to pull us through other then risking trillions, and the well being of OTHER human beings who have to survive on their weekly paychecks.l or tips.

        I have a sister in law who is older, and thank goodness she owns her home, but she works at a school part time (could not seem to get another full time job), and she is not part of the Union, she will need to collect unemployment and she will not be able to make ends meet to put food on the table… fortunately her kids and grandkids will pitch in to help – as they should, but she worries nonstop now, and what of all the other people at her level across the nation that are on worse shape in terms of housing, etc. For them they it’s probably scarier then CaronaVirus…

        • Somebody says:

          From what I’ve read if it turns bad with the pneumonia symptoms it happens in a hurry. Yes that side effect hits the elderly more, but not exclusively. The thing that has health officials spooked is that there are not a lot of clues, they can’t figure out who will get the bad side effect and who won’t.

          The bad respiratory failure is happening in 10 to 20%. I read an article taken from an interview with a respiratory specialist in New Orleans. They had this sweep through following Mardis Gras. He said at first the hospital staff was joking around, basically thinking is was media hysteria and a political driven crisis. They even joked about getting it so they could have a paid vacation, thinking it just another flu. Until their first patient went south.

          If things go south, you basically drown in your own blood that fills your lungs. They have to crank the vent up to 90% to keep you alive. They don’t normally run vents at such high levels. On top of that it takes weeks, which is also nothing they’ve seen before. The longer you’re on the vent in any circumstance the higher the risk of all sorts of complications.

          The virus needs carriers, we are all potential carriers. So they’re trying to isolate it and starve it of hosts. Hence the 15 days.

          If 20% of our population contracted it and then 10% of those with it needed respiratory intervention we couldn’t even come close to meeting that demand, nowhere close. Again it takes weeks, not days.

          • Somebody says:

            To continue, these actions will not “get rid” of the virus, but hopefully will slow it down so our hospitals can meet the demands.

            Demands, btw that may never materialize in parts of the country with low virus load.

            The stock market doesn’t like uncertainty, it will continue to react to uncertainty. At this point the losses are all on paper unless you sell. Before all this happened the economy was humming along. There is every reason to believe it will recover rapidly. Unlike 2008 there is no credit crisis.

            Businesses will feel the pinch, but surely these businesses have dealt with natural disasters before. A hurricane can shut down business for much longer than two weeks. Hourly workers are the ones that will really feel this. That’s why the government is moving to cover payroll, to help workers and the businesses that employ them.

            I don’t mean to minimize it, this is like nothing we’ve ever seen in this country. Unlike a natural disaster which is limited to one geographic area this is the whole country. Businesses don’t have insurance for something like this. From large fortune 100 companies to small mom and pop operations, businesses are scrambling to figure out how to handle this. Again it’s the uncertainty, it’s hard to plan when you don’t know how quickly the economy will recover.

      • Angie says:

        I think about 90% of everything going on right now is an over reaction because (1) it is a novel disease that they don’t know what it will do (China’s data is untrustworthy) & (2) we have a germaphobe POTUS in a medical.expert bubble right now.

        BUT, I am willing to give it “15 days to slow the spread” but that’s all I’m willing to do peacefully and only for the sake of public health for the vulnerable groups (of whom my parents are a part). If it goes on after that, I’m raising hell.

        • lyn says:

          I feel the same way.

        • Anthony says:

          Right next to you. I’ll err on the side of caution, but not for much more than 14 days. This is too media driven and politically opportunistic for me to keep my big fucking mouth shut for much longer.

        • jeffhas says:

          ^^ This is where I am at, and why I’m b*tching about the over/under of how many deaths does it take to get the the center of our entire society…. in the past, no amount,…. but here we are locking down people, business, COMPLETELY tanking our economy willfully!… and I see that TRUMP is at the mercy of medical professionals and a media that sees blood in this story, and I see TRUMP doing his best to turn it around on them…

          BUT by April 1 (that is my personal deadline) they better unlock people and get business (and this economy) moving, or there will be torches and pitchforks (even if it’s only me).

        • Constance says:

          That’s about how I feel and I’m in the venerable age group. I also wonder if it is some sort of shock therapy to make companies motivated to get themselves out of China and develop a sudden political will to manufacture important things like medical equipment and drugs here in the USA again.

      • Somebody says:

        In respect to school the impact varies. We start school in August and the year ends in May. Our 3rd nine weeks just ended. The kids were on spring break this past week. Now moving forward they will be missing school.

        However, because of testing when they return from spring break the testing review starts. All leading up to testing next month. Then a couple of weeks of normal school. The last 2 weeks of school here there is no education, field trips, parties, sack races, movies, etc.

        That’s just how the districts in FL work. The grades have to be turned in far enough in advance to go through district and state. They send the report cards home on the last day. If you’re kid is absent, you can send in a stamped self addressed envelope ahead of time or drop by the school during the two weeks teacher planning following the last day.

        Georgia is one week ahead of Florida and things are the same there, just a week ahead.

        Bottom line, most of the 4th nine weeks is centered on testing, which has been cancelled. If they go back April 15th as planned all they will have missed is test prep and testing. They’ll actually get an extra week of actual instruction because no testing. IF school is out longer than that, they will miss some instruction, but generally those weeks are introduction to new skills they’ll see next year. I think they’ll be OK.

        That being said, for many kids as EM described, school is a safe haven and perhaps their only source of nutrition. In my community they are handing out meals all over the place in boiling bags, apparently no questions asked. Some areas have opened their cafeterias, which is like WTF, why not have school.

        Whether school starts back or not, I’m sure my grandkids will be fine. I know they have access to food and I’ll work with them if they need any help academically.

        • elliesmom says:

          School doesn’t get out in the northeast until near the end of June. June 20th is a usual last day of school. Testing takes two or three days max in the grades where testing happens. Teachers spend one day going over how to take the test with the kids. This is a real loss of a 1/3 of the curriculum for the year with the kids if they don’t go back to school, but that’s not what has me concerned. I’m worried about what it’s doing the their sense of security. I stopped and chatted with some high school age boys who were fishing off our dam today. They’ve decided nothing they do matters anymore because a virus can kill us all. That might be reality, but I’m not sure that’s the worldview I want teenage boys to take away from this. Teenagers who think they’re going to die young do even more stupid things than usual.

          And what about all the people who are emotionally vulnerable who we’ve placed in social isolation? An old friend called me today out of the blue to make sure I was OK, but the truth is, she’s not OK. My sister-in-law was just getting to the place where she could be left alone all day emotionally after having a stroke, and she’s back to panic attacks again. There’s a very high price being paid emotionally and economically by people besides the risk to their health. Like I said, I remain to be convinced. I haven’t said it’s a hoax, or that it might not be warranted. I’m just not there yet. Take a peek at how panicked Ann Althouse, a very smart woman, is if you want to see what this is doing to people. People lived more normal lives in the middle of the bombings in England during WWII.

          • Somebody says:

            I know many schools go well into June and don’t start until after Labor Day. I think the closures are worse for those students.

            The isolation is bad for many people and it will get worse with each passing day. Does your SIL have any tech devices she could FaceTime with? It’s not exactly the same, but it’s something.

            That’s really sad about the teenagers. My older kids were teens back during 9/11, a lot of kids were really scared then too. You know that, since you were teaching.

            I don’t think this is a hoax, but I’m not sure this “flattening the curve” will work either. The French are reporting there are two strains an L and an S strain. They’re claiming the L strain is the really bad one. I haven’t heard our officials talk about two strains. Are we able to discern one from the other? If the French can surely we can.

            If this is two strains maybe we can find and isolate the bad one??? If this only lasts the 2 weeks I think the economy will bounce back. Some exceptions will be for example tourist related industries. The longer it goes on, the slower we may be in recovery. I don’t where that fine line is.

      • foxyladi14 says:

        Good comment em, I hope you repeat this on FB. ❤

    • Constance says:

      They should have left the schools open and made attendance optional. School is the stable force in many kids life and a fair number rely on schools for food. They should have told high risk groups to stay home. I think the total shut down is a big mistake. However things are really out of control in NY. The disease mostly stayed in nursing homes in WA and we seem to be stable at about 200 new cases a day. NY had almost 4000 new cases today. At that rate of infection NY has to do something extreme to keep from becoming a disaster.

  3. jeffhas says:

    Hey… I’m in moderation, can you free me you?

  4. Mothy67 says:

    I just saw amazon is renting some of the movies that are in theaters now, but they want 19.99. I could have been tempted by 9.99 for The Hunt but 20 seems silly even though luxury cinema charges 15 for a ticket and I have to get the yuuge coke and a soft pretzel with cheese.
    What do they do in California movie theaters with no straws. I think it would be hard to drink while staring at a screen. One of the nearby bars went with paper straws. They are really hard at first and then they get mushy. I like vodka soda with a splash of any juice in a tall glass. You have to stir those and the paper disolves. Not a pleasant taste.

  5. lyn says:

  6. jeffhas says:

    More people are dying from Anal Cancer FFS !!

    “The American Society of Clinical Oncology estimates that 8,300 cases of anal cancer will be diagnosed in 2019 and about 1,280 deaths will occur that year from anal cancer.

    By contrast, some 140,250 people are predicted to be diagnosed with colorectal cancer in the U.S. in 2019, and about 51,000 people are predicted to die of the disease the same year.”

    https://www.webmd.com/cancer/what-is-anal-cancer

    Serious sh*t.

  7. lateblum says:

    If I get thru COVID I’ll get a colonoscopy. I promise.

  8. lyn says:

    • taw46 says:

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      would love to get a look in some of the medicine cabinets of the raving msm and their buddies in congress. am reasonably sure they are stocked to the brim with little bottles with tons of warnings about potential side effects, including death.. And those are only the ones that are “legal”. Heck, water can kill you n more ways the one.

  9. votermom says:

    I have a plumbing analogy for the Chinese virus.
    Imagine all the ventilators* we have as a giant sink.
    (*ventilators is my shorthand for the ICU care that goes with it)
    The rate of people needing ventilators Rin measures what is goes into the sink
    The rate of people goung off ventilators Rout is what leaves the sink (Rout is both people recovering which seems to average 2weeks or people dying, which is shorter)

    Problem: more ppl get infected in a shorter time, of which maybe 20% will need ventilators, than ppl getting off ventilators. So you need a certain %age of available ventilators at all time

    3 pronged solution:
    1) lower the rate of overall infection (social distancing) to lower Rin
    2) shorten the duration of needing ventilators (treatments like quinine or remdesivir) to increase Rout
    3) increase the size of the sink (more ventilators and ICU beds and nurses)

  10. taw46 says:

    💕

  11. Angie says:

    Lol

  12. 1539days says:

    I liked this article. It’s pretty long and counters a lot of the “flatten the curve” theories. Especially interesting is that Coronavirus is vulnerable to UV light, which is a cheapo sanitizer used in a lot of stores.

    View at Medium.com

  13. votermom says:

    Pitt on the vaccine research front
    https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/03/20/university-of-pittsburgh-center-for-vaccine-research-coronavirus-progress

    The Center for Vaccine Research at Pitt now has successfully taken a portion of the virus that leads to COVID-19 and attached it to a genetically modified measles vaccine that has been used for years.

    CVR now has proof of principal that you can put something from SARS into the measles vaccine.

    The next step is to inject it and test it on animals. If those animal tests are successful, clinical trials in humans could begin.

  14. DandyTIger says:

    Poor Bernie Bros are not happy:

    • lyn says:

      My Father put restrictions on Travel to and from China on January 31st.

      Just 17 Days Earlier, the World Health Organization said there was “no clear evidence” that Coronavirus could spread person to person. Joe Biden called the move Xenophobic and accused my dad of “fear mongering”. Meanwhile, Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi were worried about IMPEACHMENT.

      These are the FACTS that the Media will not tell you.

  15. lyn says:

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  17. SHV says:

    “llinois Governor Lists Gun Stores as ‘Essential,’ Exempts Them from Forced Shutdown”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/21/illinois-governor-lists-gun-stores-as-essential-exempts-them-from-forced-shutdown/

    That is a surprise from Pritzker…most Dem/thug Govs are shutting down gun stores.

    • lateblum says:

      I cannot imagine what drove him to this decision. Fear of losing votes? He has done some things since being elected that have surprised me. In this moment I cannot tell you what they were, but I remember thinking it was a pleasant surprise. I didn’t vote for him, but I imagine this is better than the last guy.
      Btw, many places outside the Chicago area can be pretty rural and hunting and fishing are very popular. So there’s that.
      I wonder what Cynic has to say. She lives outside the metropolitan Chicago area. I recall one time when she wrote about guns (probably hunting rifles) being pretty commonplace in her area.

  18. 1539days says:

    I think the 2-3 week lockdown period is about all Americans will stand for. Today, I found out my favorite brunch place has to shut down. I ordered “take out” from them on Friday and was planning to again on Sunday, but found out they closed down this afternoon. They have 3-4 people working there, so the sales must have been terrible, plus a lack of tips.

    I have some information that fast food places are seeing a decline as well. Drive-thru sales are flat, which means the people who ate in are not buying anything, which is a 20-30% hit on their sales. I know I’m spending considerably less money on food. Since the state has classified my company as essential, I can at least keep ordering food from our cafeteria, I just have to eat it somewhere else.

    On the other side, I know of people with Coronavirus. One person at work has it and is being treated. My co-worker has a second cousin who has been to the hospital twice with COVID-19 related breathing issues. She was in Greece and spent at least a few days in the community. Her husband is infected as is a guidance counselor at a high school.

    I think President Trump is responsive to his citizens. If the lockdown is having negative effects and no positive impact, I’m sure he will ask for it to be disbanded. This reminds me a lot of the Anthrax scare after 9/11. The possibility was real, but the impact was small. However, those two events cause long-term changes. I think the same thing needs to happen even after this is “over.”

    • lateblum says:

      My dd#2 has a friend who works afternoon/evening at a local McDonalds. She was sent home on Wednesday/Thursday because a morning staff was found to be COVID positive.
      They have closed the site down completely (thank heaven they followed protocols) but this young woman now has no job. And she had only just started working there a couple of months ago. I don’t know what will happen to her. She has some pretty significant limitations and was hired there because she had worked at another McDonalds earlier in her life.
      While I try to contribute monthly to the Chicago food bank, I think I’ll change my small donation to her until she can get another job. I just don’t see how she can survive this.

  19. helenk3 says:

    https://therightscoop.com/whistleblowers-and-residents-in-wuhan-say-china-is-lying-about-lack-of-new-cases-of-coronavirus/

    Would China lie???? I can not say “is the pope catholic” because I am not too sure of that anymore

  20. lyn says:

  21. Dora says:

    The democrats are already pushing this idea for the general election in November.

    • Myiq2xu™ says:

      California already allows voting by mail. You can register online too.

      The Democrats don’t need to cheat to win. Thanks to California’s “top two” primary, in the past couple elections the GOP did not have a candidate on the ballot for any statewide office.

  22. Dora says:

    • lyn says:

      Fuck you to hell, WaPoop!

    • lyn says:

      Brian Cates //Flynn & Breitbart’s Army! @drawandstrike

      I’ll tell you why all these DNC Media losers are now loudly whining for the networks to stop carrying President Trump’s CCP Virus briefings live.
      Because they don’t get to cleverly edit video of what Trump & his team say.
      If everybody watches the briefing live, this robs the Fake News Media of its key ability to frame the public’s **perception** of what happened at the briefing later.
      The clever edits & distortions don’t work on people who witnessed the live event.
      We are weeks into this crisis, and Trump’s poll numbers are GOING UP.
      The more the public watches this President deal with the crisis, the more media loses its ability to attack him unfairly on how he & his team are handling it.
      And as usual, these arrogant media people are overplaying their strategy of trying to make Trump look bad.
      They just spent this entire week of briefings trying to BROWBEAT the President into 2 things:
      1) stop selling “false hope”
      2) stop saying “China virus”
      Ever see the film “What About Bob?”
      As the film goes on, Bob, who is supposed to be crazy, becomes more and more normal as the viewers see his psychiatrist Leo increasingly getting unhinged as Bob wins over his family.
      The LOUDER these increasingly unhinged “reporters” babble at “crazy” Trump that he must stop trying to give Americans “false hope” & cease “causing racism & xenophobia” by saying “China virus,” the crazier they look & the better Trump comes across to those watching.
      They THOUGHT they would be able to use these briefings to hurt Trump.
      After a week and a half, these arrogant pricks have reconsidered. They can can see how this is going.
      The briefings aren’t hurting Trump.Far from it.
      But the live briefings ARE hurting the MEDIA REPORTERS.
      And Trump’s team is calming the pubic, giving them hope and reassurance.
      This is NOT what the DNC Media wants these briefings to do.
      The briefings were SUPPOSED to be used by the media to SHOW the country Trump isn’t fit to lead in a crisis like this.
      So now the briefings MUST END.
      So this is why you are now seeing media people whining how the networks need to stop carrying the briefings live.
      They MUST move to showing EDITED HIGHLIGHTS that gives the media back its gatekeeper ability.
      But it’s too late.
      The networks are not going to stop showing daily briefings during a declared national crisis.
      Which is what makes all this butthurt whining so fun to watch.
      /end

      • DeniseVB says:

        Do you follow Charles Glasser on FB ? Whenever he uses a Breitbart source the TDS mob gangs up on him and calls it right-wing propaganda. LOL, sickos.

  23. DeniseVB says:

    Good morning 🙂

  24. Dora says:

    I had a feeling this was going to happen.

    ====

    #PresidentCuomo trends as governor’s star status rises over coronavirus response

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/presidentcuomo-trends-as-governors-star-status-rises-over-coronavirus-response/

  25. DeniseVB says:

    Though 12,000 died, H1N1 was no big deal ?

  26. Angie says:

  27. DeniseVB says:

    I reported a tweet ! I thought it was abusive showing a video of a man boiling a dog alive in some sh*thole village in KungFluistan. I’m not judging the culture, but I should not be forced to watch, twitter can at least put one of their stupid *Sensitive Material* shades on it. I blocked the account too since so many ghouls are sharing it and it kept showing up on my timeline.

    A bunch more showing dog and cat barbeques and the shitty conditions in the wet markets of suffering animals.

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    • Miranda says:

      “I’m not judging the culture”

      I am. That culture is fucking terrrible. I’m not a vegetarian, but no meat animals have to be actively tortured to death. They can be slaughtered as humanely as possible.

      • 1539days says:

        My favorite is the “Dogs Against Romney” guy who thought it was completely acceptable for Obama to eat a dog, but horrible that Romney put the family dog on the roof of his car IN A PET CARRIER.

        • Miranda says:

          I don’t agree with either. A roof is not a place for a pet in a pet carrier.

          • DeniseVB says:

            His excuse was the dog got carsick, puke and diarrhea, stunk up the inside of the car. Vets have always dosed pet size dosages of dramamine or valium. Can you imagine being the car behind them?

    • DandyTIger says:

      Love it. Of course a culture that does that is questionable, but using that phrase is perfect for a report to Twitter. Also yeah, disgusting.

    • lateblum says:

      Thanks for pointing out the account. I’ll block it even though I haven’t yet seen anyth8ng from there or referencing it. 💋

      • DeniseVB says:

        I blocked that account, but still seeing it from other accounts, so it may not have been the original source? Hopefully Twitter can pinpoint it better and ban the video.

        Did you see James Woods tweet out that woman eating a baby bird from it’s nest? What is it with people sharing that stuff?

  28. Dora says:

  29. taw46 says:

    From a doctor here in KW:

    “we have it here. Saying more would just get people crazy. It’s in the keys. Testing is doing its job. It does not appear rampant by test or symptom. No flu tests positive in at least 2 days. Our leadership appears to have made good calls. Now we wait. Nobody seriously ill”

    I think he should have said a little more, this statement alone is enough to “get people crazy”. Now people will want to know how many, which Key? The one confirmed case we know about was a 72 yr old woman just returned from the U.K., lives in a community at the very top of the Keys. The government officials never told us the location, but we Keys are a small community. Someone found out and posted on local FB sites. lol.

  30. DandyTIger says:

    What is the media going to do when this emergency starts turning around? Either from just the curve going down because of the social distancing, travel bans, etc., or from a drug being approved and working. They’re on the warpath right now to the point where even moderate Dems are disgusted. I predict they’ll actually keep up the fear mongering and say it’s a lie that things are getting better. Or they’ll say it was because of their new hero Cuomo. We should make bets on this.

    • taw46 says:

      Sadly, my relatives still hate our President and believe all of MSNBC’s lies about him. They really believe he hasn’t done anything throughout this emergency. Oh, and MSNBC is loving them some Cuomo today.

      • lateblum says:

        I seriously hate MSNBC. I’m so glad I live alone and don’t ever have to see/hear anything from that or CNN or any of the other alphabets that I don’t want to see/hear.
        Blessings…

        • Constance says:

          President Trump needs to work on getting us the right to refuse certain TV channels. Mandatory option of A la carte TV. Many of us would block CNN and MSNBC and those who don’t would end up paying the full cost of subscribing to their BS.

  31. Anthony says:

    This is a local group that has gone global. Its a breath of fresh air after the stench coming from DC and the MSM. I’ve joined as a volunteer

    https://www.invisiblehandsdeliver.com

    • taw46 says:

      We have people doing that in the Keys. We also have a group who are making face masks for medical personnel and others who want them. KW people have always been great about volunteering and raising money for those in need.

    • DeniseVB says:

      It’s seems like the msm is forcing us to find services on our own because they can’t f**king shut up about “Trump lies…” Social media is filling in for them to give us the important information like you link. Local neighborhood blogs are posting all kinds of free delivery services local businesses are offering, keeping their employees on the payroll too ! I just discovered the joy of online grocery shopping and delivery. Free if you order at least $50, of course, tip the delivery person…..WORTH IT. This may become my new normal 😀

  32. DeniseVB says:

    LOL….

  33. DandyTIger says:

  34. lyn says:

    • elliesmom says:

      I think the comments about the virus killing off the Boomers, and that’s Ok are hilarious. The oldest Boomers are 73-74. Most are in their 60s. Most Boomers are still getting up and going to work everyday. The crash in the economy is going to keep a lot of them working a lot longer than they would otherwise, keeping all of those senior management jobs for themselves. Both Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are too old to be Boomers. Trump just barely qualifies. Obama is a Boomer. The Boomers are being followed by the clueless generation.

      • Miranda says:

        I was born in 64, the last ‘Boomer’ year. I don’t think 55 is most people’s idea of a cut-off age.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Yeah, we senior boomers turn 74 this year. Hisssssssss, and we’re getting crankier, so stay off our lawns 😀

        My dh is stuck with Biden and Saunders generation, I think they call it The Forgotten Generation because they’re not old enough to be in The Greatest Generation. PTrump (June), Bill Clinton(Aug) and GWB(July) were all born within 6 months of me. I could have gone to high school with them 😀

  35. Dora says:

    Some are having more difficulty adjusting to the new rules.

    ==

    Nassau Man Arrested For Threatening Hospital Guard With Taser

    The defendant reportedly became irate after being told to leave due to the hospital’s coronavirus visitor policy.

    https://patch.com/new-york/eastmeadow/nassau-man-arrested-threatening-hospital-security-guard

  36. DeniseVB says:

    Funny that the media won’t point out this obvious ball drop by House Dems, could have made a difference in shutting down China much sooner.

  37. DeniseVB says:

    I saw this on a neighborhood blog. Has anyone in the media explained coronavirus so clearly and thoroughly? What I gather, it did start in an animal that the Chinese eat, like bat soup?

    Text follows……..

    Why is Coronavirus a bigger deal than Seasonal Flu?
    Direct quote from an immunologist:

    “A lot of people are feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share.
    It has to do with RNA sequencing…. I.e. genetics.
    Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year… you get immunity two ways…through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.
    Novel viruses, come from animals…. the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans… then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.
    Now…. sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human… once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..
    H1N1 was deadly….but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.
    Fast forward.
    Now, here comes this Coronavirus… it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long…but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person… But here is the scary part…. in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”
    This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity…doctors have no known medicines for it.
    And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..
    That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza…. this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater…And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L….which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.
    We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.
    Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed…(honestly…I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation…
    And let me end by saying….right now it’s hitting older folks harder… but this genome is so slippery…if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.
    Be smart folks… acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now.
    Stay home folks… and share this to those that just are not catching on.”

    …..end text.

    • 1539days says:

      Also, more people, more mutations. Plus, there’s the potential for someone to get one strain after another, but hopefully they’d have some immunity.

  38. lyn says:

  39. helenk3 says:

    https://thenationalpulse.com/politics/refugee-health-prioritized/

    It seems as though we are not the only ones with clueless people in government

  40. Dora says:

    New York Has 15 Times More Cases Than Any Other State, Cuomo Says

    Governor Cuomo plans temporary Army Corp hospitals, FEMA hospitals; asks federal government to nationalize coronavirus supply production.

    https://patch.com/new-york/hauppauge/new-york-has-15-times-more-cases-any-other-state-cuomo-says

    • 1539days says:

      And about 95% of those cases are downstate.

    • DeniseVB says:

      The virus was in China in mid-December, somehow NYC crammed 2 million people in Times Square on Dec 31, I’m quite sure some Chinese tourists were crammed in there with them, plus visitors from other countries. NYC is very lucky this didn’t start in mid-Jan.

    • Constance says:

      This website still gives the best info IMO. https://ncov2019.live/data They now have new columns for Percent Daily Change and Changes Today. Scroll down to the USA stats. Washington seems to have gotten it under some control as are Percent Daily Change today was zero. New York had Percent Daily Change of 52% increase. California had PDC of 11%. New Jersey had PDC of 44%. Washington locked down about 4 days before anyone else.

  41. lateblum says:

    All together now…🎼 🎼🎼

  42. lateblum says:

    Day 11 . . .

  43. lyn says:

  44. Dora says:

    He shouldn’t have been surprised.

  45. lyn says:

  46. votermom says:

  47. lyn says:

  48. 1539days says:

    While the number of US cases is rising, the fatality rate is going lower, close to that of South Korea, the “gold standard.” This can be due to extensive testing and / or superior medical care, both of which the media claims Trump failed at.

  49. Dora says:

  50. Mothy67 says:

    Did corona make madonna asian. She looks awful.

  51. Dora says:

  52. lyn says:

  53. lyn says:

    • votermom says:

      I think he’s doing his version of FDR’s fireside chats
      Still, I get a bit nervous every time
      hope it’s mostly good news

      • mcnorman says:

        These chats are coming straight from the horse’s mouth. That calms many of us. I am glad that he believes that we can handle the truth unlike the fake news media. Glimmers of hope in dark times.

  54. Dora says:

    Israeli doctor in Italy: We no longer help those over 60

    Israeli medical doctor Gai Peleg told Israeli television that in northern Italy the orders are not to allow those over 60 access to respiratory machines.

    https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856

    • SHV says:

      May not be unreasonable. We don’t have reliable data but it’s reported that the mortality for people requiring mechanical ventilation is 86%….it may be >95% for people over 60..don’t know. However, having patients on ventilators requires a disproportionate increase in health care people and increases exposure of those people to infection.

      My wife told me yesterday that the directive was issued to not do CPR on COVID proven patients who arrest because the survival rate is essentially zero and CPR exposed a lot of people to possible contamination.

  55. helenk3 says:

    Senator Rick Scott just had a townhall meeting by phone. While I was on it a pilot said he had come down with a fever and marked off sick,.When he tried to get testing he was told he did not meet the criteria. That seemed dumb to me. Transportation workers should be a priority.Think about it this way. A woman in the business class section of a plane or in an 89 seat train car is wearing god awful perfume. It smells like nanny goat in paradise. The transportation worker comes in contact with her and then comes into your section or car and has contact with you. You now smell the nanny goat in paradise perfume.
    Transportation workers should have a priority on tests.

    Just my opinion

    • Somebody says:

      A pilot doesn’t meet the criteria? What in the hell? His job is travel, he may not be an international pilot but many of his passengers are connecting from overseas. That’s why they call them international airports 🙄 Miami and Orlando are big international gateways, we have others but those are the two busiest as far as international in the state.

    • lateblum says:

      I find it interesting that NBA and MLB and NFL players and coaches and politicians all meet the criteria for testing. So did Tom Hanks and Mrs Tom Hanks and Harvey Weinstein(seriously???) because they are all necessary to the health and well being of the USA.
      My daughters friends’ son flew in from Rome via Paris and arrived in Miami. He was sent on his way without any even cursory clearance. He was asked – as were all the passengers – to self quarantine for two weeks. But they did not even have their temps taken. I don’t know if he then flew or drove to AZ where he is staying in a family owned condo by himself for at least 14 days. At least he is doing the right thing.
      Perhaps if he had been a basketball player, he’d have been tested. smh

      • DeniseVB says:

        My neighbors get out of self-isolation this Wednesday. They were the ones on one of those infected Nile River Cruise boats. My dh told him not to cross the street for another 2 weeks, to be sure. Incubation has been all over the place, even though CDC is saying 7-14 days?

    • Constance says:

      I’m pretty sure there are enough tests, the question is why aren’t they being used extensively? Who is doing the rationing and why?

      • Somebody says:

        You’d think they would be using them extensively to locate and isolate clusters. In Florida they started off testing hospitalized patients, a bunch of people that were on known infected cruise ships***, and then started rolling out public testing for symptomatic people with doctor referral or testing for anybody 65 and older….WCPGW 🙄

        *** the cruise passengers tested were the FL residents as far as I know the others on those ships were sent home. Although they report in out stats X number of non FL residents that are positive so who knows.

        I thought the call for testing seniors at these big testing centers was stupid, apparently so did a lot of seniors because at least in JAX they didn’t show up.

        In my county the only testing I know of are the contacts with the confirmed travel related case. All negative. I noticed we had 2 outstanding tests so maybe they test symptomatic people. We had a problem here as they clamped down in JAX and other surrounding counties. Our restaurants, stores, gaming lounges and beaches stayed open, but had limits except the beach. The local news station listed closures and things open by county. They came in droves, so as of 6am, all closed 🙄

        We had been functioning fairly normal and then the locusts came 😡 I hope we don’t see a spike in cases now, we’re pretty much remained untouched except the one man that was tested and isolated quickly.

  56. lateblum says:

    Madonnas creepy, poor taste tweet and a perfect response.

  57. DeniseVB says:

  58. lateblum says:

    Friends from WA sent me this video earlier today. It’s a little broadway medley for today.

  59. lyn says:

  60. lyn says:

  61. DandyTIger says:

    • lateblum says:

      I shared this with many of my friends. Some may “unfriend” me for it, but it would be good for them to see the timeline. And if they don’t like it, they can lump it.

  62. jeffhas says:

    First 12 minutes are PURE GOLD…. but then there is the Crown Jewel at 9:50 in.

    Please give a look-see.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Steve+Hilton+next+revolution+3-22-20&view=detail&mid=5262C4652CC694664E3E5262C4652CC694664E3E&FORM=VIRE

  63. Dora says:

    So damn sad!

    • Anthony says:

      Isn’t this a human rights violation??

      • Dora says:

        I don’t think these actions qualify as violations. The doctors aren’t doing this with malice, but with sadness. They have no choice.

        • Somebody says:

          This is the kind of shit they’re trying to avoid here in the US. That’s what flattening the curve is about. Some facilities here in the US have already set policies. SHV is a long timer here, his wife a doctor. He posted her hospital decided no CPR for covid-19 patients. If they get inundated they have policies for respirators. I wonder how many facilities have quietly set similar policies?

          This thing is ravaging parts of Europe, which will most likely hasten the 3rd world takeover there. In fact I bet the “solution” to loss in population in Europe will be more immigration.

        • Anthony says:

          I see it as selective genocide.

        • Anthony says:

          Why do they have no choice? Was that directive given by TPTB in Brussels? Is that how the EU is handling this?

          • 1539days says:

            Let’s put it this way. You have one ventilator. One patient is circling the drain and two more come in who need a ventilator. Do you want to go by “first come, first served” if it means the two new patients die while the first one takes another 3 days to die on the ventilator?

          • Anthony says:

            The person in most need gets the ventilator. We’re stepping up production via the private sector. There is no need to let people die just because they’re older than some who have stronger autoimmune defenses.

          • Somebody says:

            I have no idea is the entire EU is handling this the same way. This is happening is Italy and Spain because their systems are overwhelmed, which is what they are trying to avoid in the US. Small extended curve vs sharp upward V. A sharp upward V overwhelms the system.

            In a crisis situation they save those with the best chance of survival first. They do that on battle fields in the far reaches of diddy wah diddy when there is an outbreak, etc. It’s not something western countries usually encounter. Normally we send our people out to help save lives.

            This isn’t just about the system, as in beds and respirators. The more inundated the system the higher the likelihood of medical staff becoming infected, then it gets really bad. That’s happening in Italy.

            Every hospital in the US will do everything to save every patient unless and until a saturation point is met. We’re not there yet. Even with every effort the survival rate of those that have to go on the vents is abysmal. Rates vary, but at best 20% at worst 5%.

            This is NOT anything any of us want. The French are saying there are two strains, one far more deadly than the other. Hopefully our scientists are looking at that. From the things I’ve read of interviews with front line medical people and anecdotal comments like my sister is an ICU nurse…….what is scaring the medical community is the patients can go south in a hurry and without warning. They don’t yet understand why, let alone have a way of predicting who.

            When you combine the unpredictable nature of this with information like Denise posted about how this thing mutates faster than has been seen before, kind of makes me go hmmm 🤔

          • Somebody says:

            The patients are on the vent MUCH longer than the medical profession is accustomed to and at much higher rates. That’s a part of the shortage is how long it takes with breathing assistance to recover, if they recover.

          • Anthony says:

            We have 3 major auto manufacturers making ventilators. The shortage should be satisfied very soon. This is a lesson on self sufficiency. Its also a crushing blow to globalization.

          • votermom says:

            Anthony, there are simply no ventilators left in Italy and Spain. Who’s gonna make more for them in time? We can’t – we already need them ready in here. It’s triage. And they are probably not just basing on age but comorbidities – younger patients already sick before they got COVID19 might not be getting ventilators either.

          • Anthony says:

            In that case, ventilators should be distributed by degree of severity, not age.

          • taw46 says:

            I don’t know vm, sounds to me it is all based on age, no matter your physical health. First Italy said they would not treat anyone over 80, then said they would not treat anyone over 60. Now Spain is removing ventilators from those over 65. So you may be in better overall health then someone younger, but your age prevents you from receiving medical care. That’s what they are saying.

  64. Dora says:

    I hope it’s the end of the party, but in the meantime the entire country has to wait.

  65. helenk3 says:

    https://thegreggjarrett.com/judge-wont-release-avenatti-over-coronavirus-fears/

    my heart cries for him!!!!! he will use anything to benefit himself

  66. Dora says:

  67. Somebody says:

    VM thanks for your link upthread showing data on temp spikes. It shows FL as a potentially much bigger hotbed than is being assumed. We’ve had a problem statewide with spring breakers, we also have a lot of snowbirds that returned here to weather the “storm”. I think all that may bubble up to the surface soon.

    Our local news reports daily the number of cases county by county. We’ve held steady at 1 until yesterday we had a 2nd. Both deemed travel related. However today they published the number of people tested along with the results. The number of cases overall in this area of Florida is low, but guess what? The number of people tested is low too.

    My county takes the cake. We’ve tested drum roll……22 people. We have 2 positives out of 22, which is a HIGH rate of positive compared to other counties or states. Someone in the comments said “What’s up with Nassau County? Only 22 people tested. Have they implemented don’t ask, don’t tell there?” Funny, not funny, IMO.

    • votermom says:

      I like how it basically explains how it’s spreading to PA
      back a few weeks when I was obsessing over our Italy plans, I predicted that NYC would get hardest hit – combo of colder weather, high density population, and international hub

      of course then that Washington state cluster took me by surprise

      Stay safe in FL, peeps!!!

  68. lateblum says:

    I hope everyone here who is on twitter will retweet this…

    • DandyTIger says:

      I’m still shocked how low and how destructive the Dems have gone. It was one thing to have a coup, it’s another thing to actively move in a way that will kill Americans. They are truly the scum of the earth.

      • lateblum says:

        They are indeed the scum of the earth. Every tweet I find that says basically the same thing, I retweet @ my senators.

        • AniEm says:

          I don’t tweet and don’t intend to join Twitter, but thank you for getting the word out. Looks like the Dems are actively colluding with the enemy in what the President has identified as a ‘war’. They’re like vampires on the hunt for blood money — creating a horror show in the midst of a national and international crisis.

  69. lateblum says:

    Just hearing that Amy Klobuchar’s husband is in the hospital due to COVID-19. He is coughing up blood and on oxygen.

    • votermom says:

      I don’t like her, but saying a prayer for her hubby
      That’s not a death I’d wish on anyone, not even Nanzi

    • Somebody says:

      Oh my goodness, that is terrible. I don’t care for her policies but I don’t wish this on anyone.

    • SHV says:

      ” He is coughing up blood and on oxygen.”
      *****
      That’s interesting, at Al’s hospital, they had seven pt’s admitted last night for possible COVID. One known positive came in coughing up blood….6 others waiting on test results but 3 on mechanical ventilators now.

      • Somebody says:

        There is an article in Pro Publica which is an interview with a respiratory therapist in New Orleans. They had a wave of COVID-19 after Mardis Gras. Coughing up blood is what happens, you basically drown in your own blood. This virus attacks your lungs. He said they have to turn the vents up to like 90% to keep the patients alive and even then it doesn’t always work.

  70. lateblum says:

  71. Dora says:

  72. Dora says:

    The blood will be on their hands.

  73. votermom says:

    • AniEm says:

      At his point Congressional Dems are a menace to society. Someone on twitter suggested their salaries and perks be frozen since they haven’t resolved this. Let me refrain from suggesting stronger action.

  74. lateblum says:

    Senator McConnell is on fire🔥🔥🔥🔥 in the Senate right now. He is blasting the .dems and calling out what the Dems want in order to pass the COVID stimulus package.

  75. lateblum says:

    Where is Myiq2xu ??

  76. foxyladi14 says:

    White House Daily Schedule

    https://factba.se/topic/calendar

  77. Dora says:

    I don’t even know what to say about this.

  78. helenk3 says:

    https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/32320

    nasty nan’s statement on stopping the virus bill’

    she is so full of shit, her eyes are brown

  79. taw46 says:

    We have our second confirmed case in the Keys. This one a 54 yr old woman who just returned from France. She is said to live in KW. We have a third case awaiting confirmation from CDC, supposedly another KW resident returning from Europe. All in quarantine at their homes. The first one lives at the top of the Keys and she returned from U.K. with the virus. All the locals here were screaming get the tourists out, and turns out, it is the locals who are bringing it here, lol. That’s what I kept saying to people, we have lots of residents who travel internationally. Just as likely to come from them, once it comes here.

    • lateblum says:

      We had our first COVID related death this weekend. It was a person who attended a church service a cpl Sunday’s ago. I think he lived in Chicago, but came here for church. Poor guy.

  80. Mothy67 says:

    Virginia is keeping the schools closed for the rest of the year. New York is considering it. Our district strongly hinted at it.

  81. lateblum says:

    Serious question… a few days ago, Klown posted steps to bypass paywalls. I copied it, but failed to paste it into a doc. I cannot find the directions anywhere in the threads from the last 3 posts. Does anyone have the steps and could you please post them here?
    I’d be so grateful. I’ve been looking though TCH and have been unsuccessful. THANK YOU. ❤️

  82. lateblum says:

    BTW, if you haven’t seen this, you might appreciate it. Warning… language might be offensive.

  83. lyn says:

  84. swanspirit says:

    Governor Hogan just declared all nonessential businesses closed at 5pm today.
    I just finished having a discussion with an old friend, who considers himself nonpartisan, and a libertarian. He is actually very partisan, and a prigessive. That is a typo but it fits, so I am leaving it.
    He was so condescending, and insulting to me, and didn’t even see it. When I pointed it out, he called me a snowflake.
    He works for a company that makes high end musical instruments, the ones that rock stars sometimes own. He is now out of work. I wonder how he is going to like that. 😎

    • lateblum says:

      Odd isn’t it who is calling whom “snowflake”. I’ve been called that recently as well. And when I laughed they couldn’t figure out why I thought it was funny. It’s always the “prigressive” who is doing the name calling.

  85. lyn says:

    Obama is the skank that keeps on giving.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/los-angeles-times-and-bloomberg-news-federal-stockpile-of-n95-masks-was-depleted-under-obama-and-never-restocked

    A federally backed task force and a safety equipment organization both recommended to the Obama administration that the stockpile be replenished with the 100 million masks used after the H1N1 outbreak.

    Charles Johnson, president of the International Safety Equipment Association, said that advice was never heeded.

    “Our association is unaware of any major effort to restore the stockpile to cover that drawdown,” he said.

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