Leaders Lead

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

– William Butler Yeats

The Democrats are desperate, and desperate men are dangerous.

They’re also stupid.

After going all-in on Russian Collusion and impeachment and losing, they are doubling down on the chingaderavirus. They are like gamblers who lose their life savings and start borrowing money so they can “win it back.”

The other day we were treated to the sight of four different reporters at a press conference on the Chickity China the Chinese chickenvirus asking President Donald J. Trump if saying “China virus” was racist. (SPOILER: Trump told all four of them it was not racist.)

Meanwhile, Taterhead over at CNN has been claiming since 2015 that if you even look cross-eyed at a journalist you are inciting mob violence against them and that when Trump calls them “fake news” he is undermining Trust in the news media which is the most important branch of government. As if CNN hasn’t been trying to undermine Trump since the day he declared his candidacy.

Some Democrats seem to think they see the Hand of God in the timing of the Kung Flu. (I see the hand of the Chinese government.) The things the Democrats are saying about Trump don’t tell us much about Trump but they reveal a lot about the Democrats.

The unbiased consensus has been that Trump looked very presidential and statesmanlike in the past couple weeks. Hence the Democrat freak-out.

The Democrats keep making the same mistake with PDJT. As they say in Scarface, “You don’t get high on your own supply.” The Democrats have been drinking their own Koolaid and believing their own propaganda. They really believe all the bullshit they spew about Trump. They are convinced that Trump is a bumbling idiot who keeps getting lucky. They have been munching on TDS-infected bats from China and it has made them delusional.

The Democrats have been praying for some major natural disaster or a war so that Trump’s incompetence would be fully exposed to the voting public. So along comes this Wang Chung Virus at just the right moment. (It doesn’t take a whole lot of paranoia to think there is something suspicious about the timing of all this)

So what does that big orange doofus do? He gets up on the bully pulpit and looks presidential! No wonder Nasty Nana looks like Hillary did the morning after the election. THIS WASN’T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!!

While the Democrats were keeping the Nattering Nabobs of Cable News distracted with impeachment, Trump was putting a travel ban on China. To the extent it got any attention, the travel ban was called racist. At first they said Trump was doing too much. Then they flip-flopped and said he wasn’t doing enough. So Trump did more. So they played the race card again, and said calling the Kung Pao Flu the “China virus” or “Wuhan virus” was racist, even though that is what they were calling it until they decided it was racist.

Trump was unfazed. They covered his pressers from beginning to end until they saw it was improving his poll numbers, so now they are embargoing them. But you cannot ignore the President of the United States. That goes for any POTUS – good or bad, the news has to cover him. Ever since Reagan the media follows the POTUS around with a camera crew just in case he gets shot or something.

So Trump is up there at the podium in the Rose Garden being a leader. Our most recent presidents in times of crisis tend to hide until they figure out what they are going to do and then they are resolute in sticking to whatever they decided come hell or high water. And they spend more time making sure their asses are covered than they spend on finding solutions. They often follow the advice of the political fixers rather than the real experts.

Trump is no Obama. He doesn’t pretend to know everything. He’s bringing out the experts and the people in his administration who are handling stuff and letting them talk. And he’s keeping the media in check.

The Democrats want us to believe that this is a Flight 93 moment. They want us to believe that they need to rush the cockpit and seize the controls to keep Trump from crashing the plane. But the natural reaction of most people in a crisis is to rally ’round the flag and support the president.

And the Democrats haven’t exactly been boosting their image with displays of competence. They bungled impeachment and the Iowa and Nevada caucuses so far this year, and both were unforced errors.

Leaders lead. Trump is leading. I don’t know what to call what the Democrats are doing.

“I really hate that guy.”
“Me too.”

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261 Responses to Leaders Lead

  1. DandyTIger says:

    Nailed it. Thank you.

  2. DeniseVB says:

    I don’t understand the hate. Been a tabloid follower of Trump’s since the 80’s, his personal history is well documented in old news videos, he has never changed, his personality, his accomplishments and most of all “Men wanted to be him, women wanted to be with him” lifestyle. Over the years, he “bought” many politicians with yuge donations, he knows how that works. 😀

    • Myiq2xu™ says:

      Trump is a class traitor. All those years they snubbed him because he was from Queens (and sounded like it) and now they are pissed because he has sided with the hoi polloi (that’s us) against them.

      Worst of all, he keeps winning. They are Captain Ahab and he’s their Moby Dick. If Moby Dick was swimming alongside the Pequod and mocking and jeering Ahab.

      “Yo, Pegleg! Here I am, come and get me! Neener neener! That leg tasted good. Maybe I’ll take an arm next time. Hey stumpy! My dick is 13 feet long! Yours is less than 6 inches!”

  3. swanspirit says:

    Governor Cuomo, seems confused. He just had a presser, where he said that the 3 billion in relief in the current rescue Bill in the Senate is a drop in the bucket, and what they need in New York, is 15 billion. But several people are questioning his math, and his estimate of need.
    I question whether he is mixing politics with his rescue math, because some of his figures just don’t add up. And because that is what Democrats do. I trust them about as far as I can throw a piano.

    • lyn says:

      Let blue states die.

    • lateblum says:

      I just saw him say that on the news.
      Cuomo: “The hole is $15 billion dollars. The $3 billion is a drop in the bucket. It is no help”.
      Lateblum: “So don’t accept it. Tell them they can have their measly $3 billion dollars. That ought to show them!”
      End of story.

      • Somebody says:

        It’s 3.8 billion for New York state and 1.3 billion additional specifically for NYC, which is hardest hit.

        In addition to that Fat Jerry Nadler was bragging about getting 4 billion for NYC museums. Now Nadler’s amendment may have been in Nancy’s pork laden bill and not in the one the senate just passed, so I’d hold off on counting that 4 billion until we know what the final version entails.

        • Somebody says:

          By the by, I’m really growing tired of whining Cuomo. Also, I don’t want to hear a single person complain about not having masks in NY. Tell your governor to give up his photo-op boxes full 🙄

          Seriously, Inslee in Washington which has been reeling from this longer than anywhere else AND still has the most deaths. He hasn’t been on TV day after day, whining and bitching. Neither has Gavin Newsome. Enough of Cuomo 🙄 Get a hook already!

          • Constance says:

            The east coast press couldn’t find Washington on a map. They don’t and never did give a rats ass what happens out here.

        • lateblum says:

          It still won’t be enough for Cuomo! If he didn’t complain about something, he’d have nothing to say.

  4. Dora says:

    The President’s properties are NOT allowed to receive any bailout money from the new Bill

    President Donald Trump’s businesses are barred from getting loans or investments under the new $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus deal, according to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.


  5. elliesmom says:

    I’ve been very careful to keep my public Facebook presence fairly non-partisan because I get a lot of stuff from former students, but I’m reaching my limits. Yesterday a former student posted a graph she didn’t understand and asked “someone in the world” to explain it to her. I looked at her post and posted this comment. “I was going to take the time to explain the graph to you, but then I saw you ended your request with #trumpvirus, and I decided you’re too clueless, and I’d be wasting my time.” I expect to be unfriended, but I’m sick of it.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Good going. I’ve been very neutral with friends and family (have them on both political sides), but about at my limit too.

    • DeniseVB says:

      That’s why my public timeline is full of nonsense, my *real life* friends and family have better security settings than our government, so I can’t share the fun, personal stuff. Every now and then, a kid slips into public mode, I might share. Mostly I’ll copy/paste a photo to the clubhouse. So far, so good. 😀

    • lyn says:

      I’m guilty, because I’m sick of the double standard.

    • driguana says:

      Have no fear, just do it!

      • foxyladi14 says:

        I took this over to my FB.
        I post a lot of stuff about my President.
        If I can wake up just one person it will be worth it. 😀

    • Constance says:

      I have very few FB friends and mostly they are people and relatives that I want to share family pictures with so I try not to post anything political. But I have blocked about 10 of them so their crap doesn’t come up and I’ve just about gotten to the point where I go public. I’m out as a non-Progressive on Nextdoor so I have neighbors that cross the street when I walk by. That works for me! Last night I told someone on Nextdoor to list her sources if she was going to post crap like that and that MSLSD was not a legit source. The post seems to be missing today.

  6. taw46 says:

    The numbers are starting to rise on our teeny tiny islands. The latest:

    NEWSFLASH: This just in from the health department:

    Monroe County is reporting 8 cases in total – 7 residents, 1 non-resident. Of these, 7 are travel related and 1 is community acquired.

    Please note, this number may change by the evening report.

    • Somebody says:

      No change in my county, still implementing the don’t ask, don’t tell policy it seems 🙄

      New data shows we have tested a total of 29 people, have 1 positive, 26 negative and 2 tests outstanding.

      Riddle me this Batman, I know one resident is in hospital and has been tested. I know her spouse has been tested. So there’s your 2 outstanding tests that are pending. However, I also happen to know there are 4 other people living in that house which is smaller than mine. I also happen to know clean isn’t high on their totem pole. I also know the 4 others are not exhibiting symptoms and that all 5 are on 14 day quarantine.

      I deduce from this, that we are still following the “only those exhibiting symptoms” get tested policy. So now they’re all couped up, with one actively coughing, soon enough another will get sick, then another. What if the last one gets sick on day 14? Are the others free to wander about? Will the health department even know about the one that got sick on day 14? What about if they get sick on day 15?

      At this point if you can locate and isolate a cluster doesn’t that seem the prudent policy? I don’t know, maybe they plan to test them all on day 14???

      Friend is still struggling. News from hospital this morning was her fever broke, which was such hopeful news. Unfortunately it didn’t last, in a little over an hour her fever spiked and they had to turn up her oxygen, her O2 levels continue to drop. She’s not on a vent yet, but things continue to be touch and go. 🙁

      • lateblum says:

        Your poor friend. He must be beside himself with worry.

        • Somebody says:

          Her test came back about an hour ago, it’s positive 😞

          His isn’t back yet, but no doubt it will be positive too. He’s doing OK, I suppose but I get the impression he doesn’t know much about this virus. He’s not a current events kind of guy.

          He keeps saying once her fever breaks she can come home. There are a lot more issues going on, but he’s focused on her temp. He’s chatting back and forth with hubby. Hubby and I pray she is home soon and makes a full recovery but she’s got a ways to go. I know it’s very hard on him not to be able to be there, it would be for me too.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I worry about you and taw in tropical paradises. So beautiful, so remote. I can’t get a gallon of milk for 3 days if I order now. I’m in the Bumf**k mid-atlantic, I’m a little “anxious”

      • Somebody says:

        Taw has a lot more issues with supply chain than I do. We have several grocery stores. One, Winn Dixie is headquartered in JAX I’ve found their supply to be quite good. Publix is a little more popular, so more picked over, but they have a series of warehouses in JAX, it’s one of their distribution centers.

        We also have major food wholesalers in JAX, that supply restaurants. Some have started selling to the public, appointment only, curbside service. JAX is a major port, lots of produce and other goods flow through here.

        So for now we’re fine. I’m personally well stocked. I’ll run out of eggs in about 2 weeks, but my neighbor has chickens so I’m sure I can make a deal. 😉 OR if push comes to shove, climb the fence 😂

      • elliesmom says:

        My groceries are coming later today. I can see the invoice ahead of time so I know what’s not coming and what’s been substituted. Most everything is there. A couple of substitutions for brands. The only disturbing part is no eggs. I have neighbors with chickens. Right now a friend is out grocery shopping in stores a little further away, and she’s hunting down some eggs. If she’s successful and stops by, I have a loaf of bread in the oven for her. As soon as this grocery order cleared, I snagged a date for the next one. It’s 10 days out.

        • Mt.Laurel says:

          I did the same thing only mine next slot is about 16 days out (earliest I managed to snag and it was the last one open at 2:00 am). When it was I just me again, I returned to using primarily for having heavy items or special sales. Now it has returned to including more regular groceries. I got eggs last week – but I see they are out of every single brand this week. I now also have some wish items for neighbors as I am already a delivery customer. Our stores nearby are getting stock (other than paper) but now we have tons of people venturing in from other areas, including D.C. (and including those fun “diplomatic” plates) and I am located around 25 miles outside the city.

      • taw46 says:

        Thanks, Denise. Paradise always comes with a price, doesn’t it? We have 2 Publix stores and one WinnDixie. And some smaller grocers in town. Problem was all the people here for spring break who were cleaning out stores. And some who live here that panicked. The Upper Keys had people coming in from Miami and wiping out the stores. And Middle Keys had people with 28 day rentals doing the same. Since most people were basically kicked out Sunday once the hotels were closed, hopefully things will settle down. somebody is right about the supply chain for us. It’s just not right for people in Miami to come down here and shop for groceries. They have many options on the mainland, we don’t. They need to leave the Keys for the Keys.

  7. lyn says:

    Democrats still are resisting. Great post!

  8. BGCT2VA says:

    …”Leaders lead. Trump is leading. I don’t know what to call what the Democrats are doing”. It’s called same old stuff. Their hatred has made them blind with rage. And, as with a truly crazy person, they must be restrained.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Obama mainstreamed the radical left during his terms. I did anti-war marches during GWB, those were hijacked by the radical left. By 2008, I recognized those same orgs supporting Obama, I #RanAway…..then 😀

      • lateblum says:

        #MeToo. Our lives seem to parallel each other in many ways. We probably passed one another in the marches in DC and NYC.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I wish I knew you when I was at the McCormick Center during YKos07. I added a day “To Do Chicago”, had great fun. Walked the trail to the Field Museum and Aquarium, ran out of time for the Planetarium so I could do the night at the Navy Pier and take a Shark Boat ride. Beer Garden and other fun stuff. Took a cab back to the hotel, grabbed a lovely glass of wine to unwind on the hotel outdoor patio before heading back to my room. Markos and his fussy baby was out there too. We chatted for awhile, he seemed to normal then 😉

  9. votermom says:

    hubby is still in full TDS mode
    after 3 years of soaring stock market
    heard him ranting today on the phone to a thread about PDT’s lack of leadership
    apparently Trump shoulda shut everything down back when South Korea did

    we never talk politics so I was kinda hoping he’d softened his opinion by now but it’s like he’s in a media cult

  10. lyn says:

    Denise posted this for the posse on FB.

    • Somebody says:

      Very nice, I hope she’s not flooded by haters.

    • lateblum says:

      Thanks Denise.
      I wish I could send it to many others. But I cannot. Any mention of prayer or the Lord, or God and they’d throw it into the trash. I actually am sad for them. And although I was raised Catholic but have 45% Ashkenazi Jewish dna and culture, I am still a little confused, about what I do and do not believe. But I know I do believe in God and a supreme being. And I do believe in prayer as well. Yes, I am mocked by my kids, but I believe that my prayers and beliefs have kept us all alive and have helped us to survive the accidents, and the cancers, and the near drownings, and all the other dangers and maladies we have collectively and individually managed to outlive.
      So I will relish the post from your FB and save it to my favorites so I can look back on it and think about it further.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Amen ❤

    • Constance says:

      That is really nice and so unusual.

    • Island Girl says:

      I love this so much.

  11. Mothy67 says:

    My county went from 58 to 88 from yesterday to today. 25-49 is the highest with 30. no stats if any are cured, but 2 deceased.

    • Constance says:

      They don’t seem to put up many who are cured. Apparently they have to have two tests that come back negative and the tests are so awful that people don’t go out of their way to get them if they don’t have to.

  12. driguana says:

    Good post. It’s getting harder and harder to tolerate what is going on around us without speaking up. I’m thinking that the “holding the tongue” time is over for me…some people around the world, not just Democrats here, are simply going crazy, losing any sense of themselves in the world they live in. Personally, I don’t fear for myself, but I certainly wonder what is going to happen to a lot of these unhinged people…that’s the scary part. Once this round of “manipulated hoaxes” is over, what’s next? Could be a (r)evolution…armed and dangerous. I am trusting that President Trump will try everything he can to keep the lid on the boiling pot, but who knows what is still boiling underneath.

  13. lyn says:

  14. driguana says:

    Watched the original 1951 The Day the Earth Stood Still with Michael Rennie and was, once again, astounded at it’s relevance. Many of those sci fi films of the early 50’s were “anti-communist” films disguised as various aliens or creations but this one really hit home. This is the clip of Klaatu’s farewell speech…klaatu barata nicto, y’all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASsNtti1XZs&t=11s

  15. cynic says:

    Hi everyone! Thinking of you all, and glad that you are reporting from your area. We now have a 3rd case reported. The 1st was a female high school student, who hadn’t traveled. Heaven only knows how many people she had contact with.

    #2 was a male in his 40’s, and didn’t travel.

    #3 was a woman in her 30s ‘ with history having traveled to a known area with high exposure and confirmed cases’.

    Gotta say that I was really concerned a few weeks back. We meet up once a week at a local sports bar, and dine with 4 additional couples. Once couple left for a 2-wk cruise to the Panama Canal in mid Feb. This was AFTER the cruise that had all those with the illness. They chose to still go, and didn’t self-quarantine when they got home, AND joined us for dinner once they got back.
    The following week, they didn’t come because they had colds.

    Hubby got sick after that, but we believe it was only a cold.

    We now have one gdaughter twice a week. Her daycare/preschool closed last week. Mom (my daughter) works for a vet, but they are taking precautions. No one is allowed inside. They go out to the vehicle to get the animal. Let’s hope that they are being honest about the animals not getting it. My daughter has had pneumonia 2x, bronchitis, has an inhaler, and just had sinus surgery early last month up in Chicago.

    • cynic says:

      Sorry, we have 3 cases in our county, not the town that I live in.

    • lateblum says:

      Cynic! I think of you so much. I look for your town every time they show the weather map on the news. I think it pops up pretty often on either ch7 or ch9. So my eye goes right to it. What is it with downstaters and cruises? My bro and his wife go on them several times a year. He lives south and pretty far west of you (and me).
      I hope hubby only had a cold and will be “none the worse for wear” as my late mil would say. How have you been?
      It’s so good to see you here. Has dd been okay so far? How is it having the little one back with you? Was it a big change for her? How did she adapt to being back with you?

      I don’t see the ggirles as often now that school is closed. I really miss them. FaceTime just isn’t the same. But it is something. And if not for COVID, I wouldn’t be FaceTiming now.

      P.s. I don’t think my brother and wife have been on any cruises since that cruise with all the illnesses. I think they had been scheduled to go on one, though.

      • cynic says:

        Hi Lateblum! Dd is doing well, but initially, back in early Dec., she was told that the pressure from the polyps in her sinus cavity could cause her to lose sight in her eye. RUSH then did major testing, and told her that she could delay it until after Christmas.

        She had surgery early in Feb., and gdaughter had tubes put in her ears two days later! What a week!

        Just found out that the daycare center is reopening for parents that HAVE TO leave home for their jobs. We sure will miss her, but we still get her from school 2x/wk and she has supper with us.

        I have no interest in taking a cruise as I need to see land, and I have terrible motion sickness. That couple that just got back earlier this month said that this had been their 6th cruise.

  16. votermom says:

    oh lordy

    the quarantine has gotten to us

    KTE shaved doggeh’s tail

  17. Dora says:

  18. foxyladi14 says:

    Thank you Greg Abbott.

  19. Anthony says:

    Hope this opens

  20. Dora says:

  21. Mothy67 says:

    I can’t find it, but I saw a cartoon of a guy making his weekend plans.
    It was a blueprint of his house.

    • helenk3 says:

      I saw a post on facebook
      I feel sorry for all the husbands that said ” I’ll fix it when I have time”. Now they have time to fix it

    • Somebody says:

      The whole staying home stuff honestly doesn’t bother me. I planted a garden, watched movies, which I haven’t done in years. Cooked all kinds of scrumptious foods. I go to bed when I want because I get up when I want. Longest break I’ve had in the 5 years I started watching the girls.

      I have reached a point where I’d like them to come over which they can do. Probably will have son and girls over this weekend for a big family meal. We’ve all been in our houses will be 2 weeks Saturday, so I think we’re all good.

      I thought hubby and dd would enjoy playing cards against humanity or pandemic, but nope. Figure if son comes over they’ll play. When we’re in Orlando we sit around getting shit faced and have a blast playing. Son and g-kids can crash here, I have room.

      • lateblum says:

        You’re so lucky! My son, dil and g-girlies won’t come over here or to her moms or go anywhere else! Except they will go shopping for her mom and for me. I think they’d have strokes if they learned I was shopping for myself during the “senior hours”.
        Today I went to Target at 8:00. I was able to get some tp, some bleach, some Clorox wipes and some chapstick. I needed the chapstick more than the tp. Then I went to the Jewel (food store) to get some orange juice. I needed that, too. Everyone has been out of O.J.
        They’d likely disown me for good if they knew I was going out even a little. I’m savin* my request for fresh veggies and fruit for when they ask if I need anything.
        Oopsie! Time to go outside for my walk (The liquor store is a lovely 4 block walk from here.)

        • elliesmom says:

          My daughter has yelled at me for having guests over. If they’ve been isolated and I’ve been isolated, I don’t see what the issue is. I live all alone with a dog. I don’t think I’m much of a danger to anyone. My brother was going to roam the stores trying to get toilet paper. Instead, he came to my house, and I gave him some. Seems a lot safer to me. 🙂

        • taw46 says:

          Clorox wipes??? I dream of Clorox wipes. 😍 LOL.

          • Somebody says:

            Taw do you have any bleach? How about Lysol concentrate? Rubbing alcohol?

            You can make your own disinfectant wipes using paper towel, handiwipes or rags. Personally I think it would be easier to just mix a solution in a spray bottle. If you use bleach should be 1/3 cup to gallon of water. Lysol concentrate has formula on the bottle. If using alcohol it depends on the concentration of your alcohol. You’re aiming for a 70% concentration. Vinegar can also act as a disinfectant.

            My daughter was unable to obtain wipes. However bleach was easy to come by at the hardware store. She managed to get several packages of handiwipes which she said were in abundance at her stores.

            She and her friend mixed up a bleach solution for their homes. They each have 4 packs of handiwipes. They use and toss in a bag. They plan to wash and reuse them. I suggested as an extra measure to dry them outside in the sunlight, cheaper, quicker and UV rays kill viruses.

          • taw46 says:

            Thanks for the suggestions! We do have bleach, vinegar, and some Lysol spray. I have been using the Lysol to wipe down counters, door knobs, railings. When we were at the grocery store on Tuesday I was able to find some baby wipes. So, good ideas.

        • Island Girl says:


  22. Dora says:

    NYC prepares for the worse: Military sets up makeshift morgue using tents and refrigeration trucks outside Manhattan’s Bellevue hospital in preparation for surge in coronavirus victims as NYC’s death toll rises to 192


    • lateblum says:

      In 1995, the heat wave in Chicago killed over 700 people. There were refrigerated boxcars being used to stack bodies of those who had no AC or even window fans and had succumbed to the days and days of unimaginable heat.

  23. elliesmom says:

    It’s time to start thinking about what comes next. When my son was a baby, he would just stop breathing in his sleep for the hell of it. They never found anything wrong with him although he spent time at just about every major hospital in Boston. They sent us home with a baby breathing monitor, caffeine type drugs to get him a little hyped-up all the time, and membership in a support group. I’ve probably performed infant CPR as many times as a lot of EMTs. When he got a little bigger and I wasn’t responding to him as quickly as he wanted, he’d pull off the leads to the monitor and set the alarms off. I knew from the very beginning he was going to be too smart for his own good. But the point of my story is the first time he stopped breathing and turned blue was probably the scariest moment of my life, but with all the other things that have happened to me, the second scariest time of my life was the first night I spent after we turned the monitor off. Nothing happened. When the word comes down that people in Billings, Montana, can go back to school and to work, and then the people in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and so on until we get to the place where NYC can come back to life, a lot of people are going to be more frightened than they’ve been staying at home. We need a plan. My daughter, bless her heart, wants everybody to shelter-in-place until no one has the virus.

    • lateblum says:

      She just wants to make certain that her mom won’t become ill. ❤️

    • Mothy67 says:

      I was terrified imagining what you went through. Thank God it turned out okay. God bless you. I’d have lost my mind.
      I was thinking if there’d be some way to gradually increase the workforce in the big cities and schools. Liberty University went back. They could monitor that environment for the next two weeks. The mayor and governor are not happy, but they are going back willingly.

      • Miranda says:

        The Liberty U thing is overblown. Classes will still be online, but they’re letting students return to the dorms if they want. They can still take classes from home if they’d prefer.

    • swanspirit says:

      When I worked on pediatrics, I used to teach infant CPR, to parents of babies who had sleep apnea. They had to be certified in CPR, and the use of the monitor, before the baby could be discharged. Most of the time, that first gentle but good shake would get an infant breathing again. You did good.
      But I used to wonder how parents slept with that worry!

      This virus is going to cause a sea change in culture, when this is all but over.

      • elliesmom says:

        You don’t really ever go into a deep sleep, and if someone (like your mother) volunteers to stay up all night and watch your baby breathe so you can get a full night’s sleep you become eternally grateful. The monitor’s alarm sounded like a truck backing up, and now almost 40 years later, that noise will rouse me from a deep sleep. At 10 months we had been 30 days w/o an episode, and Rob had started taking off his own leads and climbing out of his crib so we held our breath and turned the monitor off. He likes to do his best Barbarino Sweathog impression- “Don’t say anything bad about my mother. Not my mother. That woman is holy.” He acknowledges that if one of my children is obligated to take of me in my old age, after the sleep apnea and the Ewing’s sarcoma, I’m his responsibility. 🙂

    • 1539days says:

      We will need a test to identify those who had the virus and are no longer contagious. Those people are essentially vaccinated and won’t pose a danger to people who still need to be isolated.

      • Mothy67 says:

        Some are saying you can be re-infected. Not sure how they know that since it can take almost a month to get go through from exposure to cured.

        • 1539days says:

          More likely there are 2 strains. If that’s true, someone could get sick, but not as sick. It could also explain why places like Italy are getting wiped out, while other places are weathering it better.

  24. Miranda says:

    They’re locking down counties in NC after our first 2 deaths (1 was late 70’s with THREE underlying conditions, so, whatever). I did a pet food/liquor/supply run, and I still have a good supply of TP from my earlier hoarding runs so we’re settled. Point of order: I never took more than 2 packs of TP and I never took the last pack from a shelf.

    • lateblum says:

      I’m just getting ready to run out for wine. And I never run out for wine. I drink so rarely, I cannot even think what she will say. Maybe I’ll FaceTime her while I’m at the liquor store. lol

    • Constance says:

      My son parks me in when he is here. When he leaves for a short time he takes my car and when he leaves for hours he gets my daughter to come over and visit with me. Of course I could drive his car if I had to but it is a stick shift and there is no play in the clutch it goes from all on to all off in a 16th of an inch so I hate driving it. I’m going nuts!!

  25. elliesmom says:

    One of my former teacher aides just messaged me the school system where I used to work and where the grandies go to school is reopening school on May 4th. That will get the seniors back in time for graduation and all of the festivities, but it’s also when the state testing usually starts. She wants me to speculate whether the state will go ahead with the testing. I’m not sure why she thinks I’ll know. I might have known 5 years ago, but I am thankfully completely out of that loop. Now do I tell my daughter to brace up? Her kids are going back to school before the school year is over whether she’s ready or not.

    • Somebody says:

      I thought the feds said requirements for state testing this year have been dropped.

      My bet is they cancel testing.

    • elliesmom says:

      Well, I reached out to someone I know who might know, and I don’t think I’ll share all I heard with my teacher friends in MA. They don’t think they have to make up any of the days they’ve missed, and while they won’t have to make up all of them, the last day of school has been moved to June 30. I understand the logic there because that’s the day all of the teachers’ contracts expire. To go to school beyond that date, they’d have to rehire some folks they might not want to. The sophomores will still be taking the test required for graduation. Whether the tests will be given in other grades hasn’t been decided yet. The tests are being prepared like it’s going to happen, though.

  26. Woke Lola says:

    Nancy and Chuck are totally American Gothing it.

  27. Myiq2xu™ says:

  28. Myiq2xu™ says:

    She’s the one that started all the SJW shit with the video game developers.

    • Constance says:

      Why should everyone shelter in place because New York and New Jersey have a severe problem? Why should I, a person in the most vulnerable group, pay my health care money into a government system that would ration care for people my age just like all the other government run systems are doing? I will pick my own health care and it will be a group that values me and my money and acts like it thank you very much. And New York and New Jersey can rest assured that the rest of the country cares as much about them and their problems as New York and New Jersey care about our problems.

  29. elliesmom says:

    My friend, Karin, scored some eggs for me, While she’s been out shopping, I made her some homemade bread. 🙂 It just came out of the oven, and she just messaged me she’s on her way to my house. Old folks sticking together,

    • Dora says:

      Enjoy the bread and enjoy the company.

    • swanspirit says:

      That’s great!!!🐣🐣🐣🐣🐣

    • Somebody says:

      Awesome!! I can smell the bread from here, YUM! I bet your house smells divine.😛

    • cynic says:

      I found that I had to ration eggs last week. Most of our chickens are in menopause, and no longer laying. Finally, just a few days ago, one started laying. Hubby went shopping on Sun. and picked us up 4 baby chicks. Thought the gdaughters would enjoy them. He actually had to go to a couple of places to find any, and then he had to get ones from a straight run. In other words, we might have 4 roosters!

      My daughter works for a vet who has chickens. She was able to get me a dozen from her, but I hate to keep asking. There’s nothing like farm-fresh eggs!

      • DeniseVB says:

        What do you do with the “retired” ladies ? (Am I going to regret asking? :P)

        • cynic says:

          So far, none have become chicken stock, but after coming home from the grocery store last week, and finding the eggs and chicken were sold out, we discussed getting rid of a couple of them. Seriously, we’ve had a couple of them at least 8 years.

          When we first moved to our house almost 30 yrs. ago, we had a lot of chickens and turkeys. Now, we only have 4 chickens and 1 rooster.

          Fun having baby chicks again!

  30. Dora says:

  31. Mothy67 says:

    I broke down and got cigarettes. Only drive thru open. The guy was wearing gloves and handed me a sanitized pen. The tobacco store has a drive thru. They can be open because they sell candy and water? Liquor stores are closed, but beer distributors are open because they sell water.

  32. Woke Lola says:

    Blood in the water! Shots fired! Retweet the heck out of this, yall.

  33. Dora says:

  34. Constance says:

    Great news! New Corona infections are dramatically down today. New York increased 17%, New Jersey 20%, California 11% and Washington increased 3%. The President’s 15 days of social distancing is working!!

      • DeniseVB says:

        If they’re applying the same rule to every corporate giant, no biggie. I’m sure Trump Inc has built in safety nets for his full time employees. Knowing him, he’ll take care of his seasonal and part time employees too.

  35. taw46 says:

    Numbers still going up in the Keys.

    “ 11 positive cases in Monroe County via the Florida Department of Health.

    Gwen Filosa reports:

    Key West has 5 cases

    Key Largo has 3 cases

    Tavernier has 1 case

    The other two are NON-residents”

    • Somebody says:

      We’re up from 1 to 4 cases, but I’m pretty sure I know where those are. You could have a similar situation. If they know where they are and isolate them, then you’ll be OK, just take appropriate precautions to avoid contracting it from others or surfaces. Wash your hands!

    • taw46 says:

      I read 85 have been tested, 11 positive and 17 pending. The rest are negative.

      • lyn says:

        My county had one positive and 65 negative.

      • Somebody says:

        I was wrong. I only know where one of the new cases in my county is located. The other two I have no idea. There is now one test pending and I also know where that case is. The sheriff have a breakdown of cases in county by age and sex and whether they are travel related which all of ours are. I could tell only one of my friends was in that count.

  36. Mothy67 says:

  37. votermom says:

    a good post by an ace regular who us a retired doctor

  38. Mothy67 says:

    I really hate democrats. People are working at grocery stores, policing our streets, CNA’s are cleaning up after the corona patients, nurses, doctors, EMS – putting their lives in jeopardy. The bill is filled with so much pork. Museums? 300 million for illegals? They disgust me. It will be at least a month before anyone gets a stimulus check. Six weeks no pay. It’ll just be playing catch up for the working poor. They act like they are giving a gift. It’s not their money. It is the taxpayers.

  39. Mothy67 says:


    • DeniseVB says:

      I fell into a nest of Q-anons that swore that Rita and Tom were in a prison, not a hospital in Australia, because of some bar codes on the door behind them on a selfie. Interesting thread about the pedo conspiracy in Hollywood. They almost had me 😀

  40. Mothy67 says:

    Post disappeared
    I have my doubts about everything around the virus. Half the country is shut down. The world’s largest economy came to a screeching halt over a very bad cold? After years on the decline we were back. Government will take care of us. Daily celebs are testing positive. Prince Charles? An 81 year old Tony winning writer with severe COPD and one lung. Yeah sure they’d check him for Wuhan. They’d make him comfortable. The morgue in NY? It just feels fishy to me. But I am bored.

    • Somebody says:

      Tim there is a virus and it is serious for some people and not all of the people it is serious for are old with other health conditions, most are but not all.

      Do you think I made up my friend in the hospital? She’s not famous, nor am I. But, she’s a real person suffering from this. Her husband and son tested positive. Son has had zero symptoms, none. Husband had a cough and pressure in his chest. Pressure enough to wonder if he was having a heart attack. That pain part is gone lasted a few days the cough is better, but still lingers.

      If everybody’s symptoms were just like husband and son, then yes it would be a bad cold going around. But a certain percentage are like the wife. A high enough percentage that could completely overwhelm our medical system.

      That’s it, nothing more, nothing less. Has the media overblown it, please. Have politicians sought to use it to their advantage, please. Has the national shut down been an overreaction? In many parts of the country it probably has, but in some areas they probably should have done it sooner and more strictly.

      But this isn’t some made up conspiracy, it’s real. Hopefully we’ll turn the corner soon. Most of America has turned that corner. For once Podunk USA is ahead of the curve 😂😂

      • Mothy67 says:

        I know the virus is real. I fear it like everyone. It may hit me or someone I care about. I don’t think the entire country needed to be shut down. I am probably wrong, but the not letting a good crisis go to waste thing enrages me. Celebrities = gross. This stimulus infuriates me. I wish Paul had been present maybe some of that shit wouldn’t have gotten through. But it is heinous. People are hurting so we have to accept it, but 98 -0?

      • Mothy67 says:

        Children are being terrorized by the msm. It is all end of the world. The pup is not fighting with my mom. They fight all the time. Not in a bad way. Headstrong kinda way. No fights at all because she is afraid she might die. It is sad to watch. Trump offers some hope and he is torn down by media, shredded. We have nothing if we don’t have some hope. obama would be praised for inspiring in dark hours. I hate the msm. We should be coming together. Life will go on with some loss, but we can’t shut down for months and have people beg fro scraps from big brother.
        Did I mention I am upset.

  41. helenk3 says:

    since I have too much time on my hands I start thinking. That is never a good thing.
    Could the victims of the virus sue China in a civil suit? Think about it shooting victims can sue gun manufacturers Cancer victims can sue roundup. Why couldn’t the virus victims?

  42. SHV says:

    This is what has Medical people scared shitless. Hopefully is doesn’t get to this but this is what the wife and a small group of MDs are setting up for…the hospital administrators who used to like playing “what if” games, getting photo op in their “command center” are useless. As Al said, they have turned the keys over to the kids ie. the people that actually do the work.


  43. helenk3 says:


    This is not good. Watch the dems use it as an excuse not to get anything done

    • Mothy67 says:

      It’s no different than what is going on in every city. They might actually get some work done because no fine dining, no boozing it up all night. Halls of Congress or home.

  44. swanspirit says:

  45. Island Girl says:

    What a timely wonderful post, reporting from day one of lockdown. Fortunately we still can service the emergency vehicles here, sales had to cease but we will carry on. Accounting never ends.

  46. Miranda says:


    I think this is a good article but it leaves out the part of social and televised media being used to whip everyone into a frenzy and that the virus has been socially weaponized to use against Trump.

    The more things like this happen, the more I understand how the Salem witch trials worked. People worked each other into a frenzy. It’s just that the mobs are bigger now.

  47. Dora says:

    • Miranda says:

      That picture has been debunked, They’re just transporting the tanks, and this is a regular occurance.

      • swanspirit says:

        One of my friends in real life and on Facebook, is totally freaking out about the National Guard showing up, in Baltimore. I love her dearly, but I wish she would calm down. She is typing in all caps, saying things like it’s martial law, there goes our freedom, etc etc. She is running around with her hair on fire, screaming about not being panicked! And she is A hard core Trump supporter.
        The National Guard, when they do show up, in a crisis like this, are there for humanitarian aid. They know how to set up field hospitals and other healthcare facilities. Using them is the fastest way to get it done. And if they have to guard the supplies of toilet paper, that is cool too lol.

        • Miranda says:

          Everybody used to freak out about armed soldiers in the airports after 9/11. They made me feel safe. I’m not afraid of our military men and women.

        • Somebody says:

          It’s people in areas not generally impacted by natural disasters that freak out about the NG. Nobody in Florida is in freak out mode, we’re accustomed to the guard being deployed to respond to hurricane aftermath. Ditto for a lot of southern states.

          Some of the areas in the mid-Atlantic and NE were ravaged by super storm Sandy. The guard was called up all over. I ask people in those areas if they freaked out like this in the aftermath of Sandy.

          This is a national disaster too, just a different kind. A kind that as you say involves field hospitals. The NG is also very good at hastening supply lines, they do it after natural disasters all the time. Many businesses are shut down, which could invite looting, they are there as a deterrent.

          I’ve found when I point out these things most of the hair on fire people shut up.

  48. Dora says:

    Cuomo and de Blasio blast $2 trillion coronavirus relief plan as ‘terrible’ for New York

    Gov. Cuomo and Mayor de Blasio accused federal lawmakers Wednesday of not earmarking enough cash for New York as part of a $2 trillion coronavirus relief package, slamming the measure as “terrible” and “nowhere close to what we need.”


    • elliesmom says:

      Maybe they could ask the folks in congress to donate the money earmarked for congressional raises?

      • AniEm says:

        Also, the Congress critters who collected blood money from the stock market. I also wonder how much the two in NY channeled to slush funds while in office rather that ensuring the welfare of the citizens of NY.

      • lyn says:

        Add all those little perks for refugees, NPR, PBS and whatever.

  49. Dora says:

    Could a ‘Draft Cuomo’ Movement Be in the Democrats’ Future?

    Democrats are publicly talking about “contingency options” for their July convention in Milwaukee in case the coronavirus persists in being a public-health threat. But privately, some are also talking about needing a Plan B if Joe Biden, their nominee apparent, continues to flounder.


    • DeniseVB says:

      I don’t think Cuomo has enough support in NY to even carry that blue state? Nobody’s going to beat Trump this year, I think he’d rather wait til 2024. I think the idea of drafting him at the convention has been floated to test the waters though, nobody seems excited at that idea 🙂

    • Somebody says:

      Oh please draft that whiny ass. We can play his photo-op pressers whining about the urgent need for masks with cases stacked up behind him.

      Better yet we can play his bizarre bargaining rant in a loop. Where he demanded everything be sent to NY and he’d personally distribute it after they didn’t need it. I called him the Joe Isuzu of governors, I just wanted him to say “Would I lie to you” 😂

      He may play well with the media elite, but not with the rest of the country. He even pissed off my progressive, Clinton fan girl, serious TDS sister in California. 😂😂 She called me and asked me if I was watching this shit with Cuomo.

      Trust me, he jumped the shark with a lot of Americans, liberals included. The first couple of days he was appealing, especially with some of his folksy stuff. Criticism of the administration was music to the TDS crowd and he did it with finesse, throwing in dashes of praise, smooth operator. As his star rose he lapped up the attention and he jumped the shark. The media elite are wrong if they think progressives outside of their bubble and the sheeple want that sleazy, whiny ass in the oval office. He doesn’t sell in Peoria or in Socal.

      • helenk3 says:

        I just had to turn off my tv because he is on whining they only gave me 2 candies and I wanted 4 candies. NY has one of the highest tax rates in the country.. People leave due to taxes.

      • Constance says:

        I watch him, he is entertaining, but so is Rachael Maddow. Always a good story to tell. Cuomo has nice clear charts and graphics. But the whole “New York is America because it is the only important place in America so send us all the stuff” alienates people. And as Trump keeps saying yes New York is getting worse and probably will for awhile but other places were never bad and some places that shut down early are improving a lot. If the average incubation is 7 days, then you have to be completely shut down longer than 7 days to see improvement.

  50. elliesmom says:

    A friend suggest a special holiday to honor truckers this year on “10-4”.

    • Mothy67 says:

      Excellent idea.

    • Somebody says:

      Love it!! Great idea! We need to recognize a lot of people like grocery store clerks, trash collectors and of course healthcare workers. Farmers, meat packers, the list can and does go on. Most people think about the healthcare workers, but there are so many others going all over, interacting with large numbers of people or gathering their trash. They do so with no protective gear at all.

      So many government shutdowns they always separate essential and non-essential. This pandemic has separated out essential and non-essential in our everyday lives. Nobody is screaming, bring back the lawyers or where has Hollywood gone. OK the latter won’t go away no matter what we do because by their nature they are attention seekers 😉

      Seriously though, many of the jobs that are proving to be essential are “lowly” jobs that the elite look down their noses at. I doubt there is enough self-awareness in many, but we can and should look around and take these lessons to heart. Don’t forget when TSHTF who was essential, who was important.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Love it !

      I believe Eisenhower created the Interstate highway system to use in a national emergency to move troops easier, which Europe had at the time during WW2 ? Route 66 was just not fast enough. I could see shutting down the interstates to truckers only for a few days to let the restocking supplies catch up.

      Fascinating history, but the interstate did kill the passenger railroads too.


    • helenk3 says:

      great idea

    • Constance says:

      Good Idea!

  51. Mothy67 says:

    I am very angry (without really knowing what I am talking about) regarding the voter stuff included. If it’s true we are fucked. Does anyone have details? Am i overreacting?

    • Somebody says:

      It’s not in the senate version passed, nor are the airline green new deal standards. People are trafficking in rumors. A lot of these things were in the Pelosi promoted, democrat wet dream bill. That’s the one that died. According to senators those provisions were specifically taken out.

      Now this thing I’m sure has poison pills and pork in it. It still has to go through the house and could potentially be adulterated more, but at this point ballot harvesting, etc., are not included.

      • Mothy67 says:

        Thank you. I can live with the pork in fact I think it might help destroy the dims in Nov. “Wait what my family got 4000 and those clowns got 25 million? ” As long as there is no voter stuff. I wish it were a bill designed just for the people and small businesses, but it really magnifies how little the dims care. I know people that really need that money before unemployment kicks in.I
        I am getting cabin fever and feeling angry. I even picked inane fights on twitter.

        • Somebody says:

          Find a distraction, find a movie, go for a walk, do some yard work, do some spring cleaning.

          Take deep breaths, remember everybody in the house has cabin fever. There is no way you can get inside everybody else’s head and know their fears. Your mom, a former nurse is thinking like a nurse right now whether you know it or not. She’s also thinking like a mom. What is scared she might infect the ones she loves or they get infected somewhere and she may lose them.

          There is no sense feeding on anyone’s fears because you can’t change theirs or yours. You’re all in this together so act like it, everybody pitch in. If you’re busy you don’t have time to worry or get angry at stupid things.

          Don’t want to do any of those things? Bring everybody together for a board game. You have a Wii? Pull out Wii sports and go bowling or play tennis. Surprise everybody with a batch of 🍪 or some popcorn.

          You can do this. We’re not locked in bomb shelters with bombs raining down on us. We haven’t been invaded by brain sucking aliens. This isn’t the zombie apocalypse, yet 😂😂😂😂 Silly arguments are pointless.

  52. elliesmom says:

    My friend who found eggs for me yesterday and I sat on my retaining wall and chatted for a bit. We were talking about how some of our mutual friends and our families are handling the virus crisis. She had spent the afternoon hunting down stuff she needed, but mostly just wanted, and it was her funny tweets from the stores that gave me the idea she might be able to score some eggs for me. She’s resourceful and laughs in the face of adversity. She has seen her share. When I handed her the warm bread to take home, she reminded me of the stories I’ve told her about my grandmother gathering up everyone’s flour ration stamps and giving people some of their own flour back in bread. Then she sold the rest of the bread. She said she’d go into business with me if this keeps up. She’ll keep me in supplies if I’ll bake.

    We have a mutual friend who posts every morning on Facebook. I call what she does “moral preening”. If we all were just as careful about following the rules as she is, the virus would go away, and then we would get our lives back. My friend’s shopping trips and my willingness to let my frantic SIL come for lunch are mucking up the works. Then there’s a bevy of people out there, my daughter among them, who give us a window into how the Salem Witch Trials happened. We have friends who are “essential personnel” and have to go to work everyday. They don’t have time to run around like chickens with their heads chopped off. Which led us into a talk about actually having seen what happens to a chicken when you cut its head off. My neighbors chickens might want to take note. 🙂

    • Somebody says:

      😂😂😂 My neighbors chickens too 😂😂😂 Although at this point I’m more interested in their eggs!

    • foxyladi14 says:

      em my Grandma wrung their heads off, I tried it once,
      When I dropped the Chicken it ran off. 😆

      • foxyladi14 says:

        So I made them lay their head down over the butcher block, And used my little hatchet to do the job. 😀

        • elliesmom says:

          My grandmother would stare right into the chicken’s eyes. The chicken would stare back at her, and Nana’s hand would come up behind the chicken’s head, and with one swell foop, Off with her head! My dad wrung their necks. Not as messy.

          • Somebody says:

            My dad did too, he always said it was all in the wrist. Grandma never could wring their necks, so she went the more brutal route, similar to Foxy.

            I personally have never killed a chicken or turkey, but boy have a plucked a lot of dead ones. Grandma had chickens and my uncle had a turkey farm. I was grown and married before I ever bought or cooked a grocery store turkey.

          • elliesmom says:

            I went to grab the mail, and my neighbor who lives next to the chicken coop just invited me over for capon. I guess the rooster has been a trifle noisy lately.

  53. DeniseVB says:

    This is why the Bill passed, Mitch bought them off.

  54. Dora says:

  55. Dora says:

    • DeniseVB says:

      I trust our citizens more than government ever since the Revolution. When we won that clusterf**k, they wanted to make George Washington KING. He refused, his vision was a nation by and for the people, not another monarchy, which we defeated. So George became our first President, a freedom enforcer, if you will. Donald gets that, but the bloated, greedy legislative branch has lost that vision. And here we are.

  56. Dora says:

  57. helenk3 says:


    when will they ever get their heads out of their asses and do something useful??


  58. foxyladi14 says:


    “I know we’ll be successful in putting this down now, but we really need to be prepared for another cycle,” Fauci said.

    He added that the current steps being taken, like fast-tracking potential vaccines and drug treatments, will be essential to stopping the virus a second time.


    • Constance says:

      Yes the virus will be around forever now and it will flare up and mutate because that is what viruses do. But many will already be immune when it comes back and by next winter they will likely be vaccinating health care workers and venerable groups. The only reason this fact is a surprise to anyone is because the people who have been reporting are breathtakingly stupid and ask stupid questions and those were the only questions being answered. They need to go around the idiot media to inform people.

  59. taw46 says:

    Every time I walk through the house, MSNBC has Cuomo on. Hour after hour after hour. Yet they blackout the President of the United States. Every day I hate them more.

    Also, my county added another confirmed case. Now we have 12, 10 are residents and travel related.

    • DeniseVB says:

      My dh noticed that “Whhhhy is Cuomo always on????” This is on Fox too. Fair and balanced, equal air time for Trump? They sure can’t give it to Foggy Biden.

      • elliesmom says:

        Fox News is in New York so for most of people working there, the situation there is near and dear to them. They go to work through the deserted streets pf Manhattan. I had this conversation with my daughter, aka Abigail Williams, about why I watch the Providence news channel sometimes and Boston others. If I listened to the Boston channels right now, I’d be building a bunker, but there isn’t the urgency, and rightly so, here in RI. She thinks I’m not panicked enough, and in fairness to her, she’s getting news predicting dire straits. But I’m not unless I turn on a national news outlet.

  60. foxyladi14 says:


  61. Mothy67 says:

  62. Mothy67 says:


  63. Somebody says:

    Attention everyone, a new talking point is emerging. The US outbreak worse than China or Italy. We’ve almost reached China’s numbers, nevermind they lied and lied and we’ll never know the truth. Nevermind over 20 million cell phones in China went dead, they probably all wanted to get back to nature.

    Worse than Italy? Hmmm, what’s the population of Italy? What’s the population of the US? Funny math there, you can’t compare raw numbers and not take total population into account.

    None of that matters, suddenly my news feed is full of how bad it is in the US, worse than China or Italy because ……you guessed it orange man bad. 🙄

    • DeniseVB says:

      I recently read that China and Italy formed a New Silk Road deal, so there’s been many trips between the countries and why Italy got struck pretty hard since those commutes didn’t lock down until VM cancelled her trip. Thank goodness 😀

    • Anthony says:

      Population of Italy is 60.43M, US is 331M. Thry can suck it, but only after they do the math.

  64. lyn says:

    A healthcare worker in my town has COVID-19. That totally sucks. They are doing contact tracing.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Our neighbors got off Nile Cruise isolation today, cleared by the local health department, they never had corona. My germaphobe dh told them, don’t cross the street for another 30 days. Sadly, he was serious 😛

      • lyn says:

        I don’t blame him. I feel like I’m getting a little chest cold, but my temp was 97.3. I’m usually a degree lower.

        • lyn says:

          … than 98.6.

        • elliesmom says:

          I have a stuffy head and a runny nose from spending so much time outside in the “pollen rain”. The clue that’s all it is is a benadryl cures it, but it also puts me to sleep.

          • lyn says:

            I’m taking my Clear Mountain Air Chinese tea pills to quiet the tickle that causes the cough.

          • Constance says:

            Same here. I’m taking the Benadryl before bed so far so I’m not sleepy during the day but it is definitely allergy season and I need to up the dose.

    • Somebody says:

      Contact tracing, that’s good. My county is following a don’t ask, don’t tell policy or something. The first case they contact traced. Since then, nadda. In fact weeks without testing anyone. I know of a household of 6, with 1 in hospital, two were tested 🙄.

      I figure they’re either saving their test kits in case things get real bad, or selling them on the black market to plug the “hole” in the county budget they wanted to raise taxes for and 80% of us voted for them to kiss our asses. Speaking of, maybe it’s payback, they do have access to our voting records 🤔🤔🤔

      Oh and another thing in the greater Jacksonville area, which is JAX and the counties immediately surrounding it, we have 139 reported cases over the 5 counties (media reports a few more because somehow they scooped up Alachua (Gainesville) into the count 🙄).

      There are 2,355 cases in the entire state. So this area accounts for almost 6% of the cases statewide. However, we account for 25% of the deaths 😱😱 WTF, in an area that is home to the Mayo Clinic, two teaching hospitals, one of the highest rated trauma units which served as a model back in the day. This area is highly rated for medical care, apparently except for viruses 🙄 To be fair over half the deaths were in a suburban community hospital, that’s never had the best reputation. The rest are at another area hospital you couldn’t pay me to set foot in. None are at the big name or premier facilities, but still where’s the collaboration?

  65. Dora says:

    The Fox News special with President Donald Trump and members of his coronavirus task force on Tuesday was the highest rated town hall in the history of cable news.

    The virtual town hall had 4,409,000 viewers between 12:00 and 2:00 p.m. according to ratings from Nielsen. It also has over a million views on YouTube.


  66. Mothy67 says:

    I am watching a show called Heroes from a few years ago. It’a serial superhero fantasy thing. I wanted mindless. It’s fun and I can do other things while watching. Season 2 there’s a virus. I’m like of all the shows.

  67. Dora says:

    This is amazing!

  68. lateblum says:

    I’m watching the presser that Lori Lightfoot is holding. Someone just read a question from the CTU and SEIU asking about the steps the city will take to protect the members of SEIU or CTU (Chicago teachers union) that volunteer to provide childcare for the medical workers who are providing treatment for COVID patients. Lightfoot said to the effect . . . “If you’re that worried, don’t volunteer”. I laughed.
    It seems the city has asked the CTU and SEIU for ppl who are willing to provide childcare for medical workers, to volunteer. She was actually po’d by a realistic question about precautions and follow up measures for those who volunteer and who might begin to exhibit COVID symptoms.
    But the mayor was so miffed by all those who have congregated in the parks – playing basketball, football, soccer – that I think it was the last straw. She said that when she returned to her office yesterday after requesting that people observe “stay home” rules and social distancing measures, she was faced with real time cameras showing hundreds and hundreds of people gathering and completely ignoring those measures.
    She is just now learning that she is the mayor of the “city of adolescents and spoiled brats”.

  69. Mothy67 says:

    Does one pay local/state income tax on unemployment?

    • DandyTIger says:

      You pay some taxes, but don’t know if it’s only local/state, or only fed, or all of them.

      • Mothy67 says:

        State and local vary. Federal depends on what you earned during the year. I looked it up. Don’t know why I didn’t just do that rather than ask. So some local communities will be crushed by a long-term shutdown. Libs don’t care. They don’t live there.

  70. ecoast says:

    What time is Joe Biden’s briefing? That’s what I care about.

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