Does The Doctrine Of Laches Apply To Politics?

The three Fates, Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos

In the realm of Shystering and chasing ambulances, there is this thing called “The Doctrine of Laches.

The doctrine of laches is a legal defense that may be claimed in a civil matter, which asserts that there has been an unreasonable delay in pursuing the claim (filing the lawsuit), which has prejudiced the defendant, or prevents him from putting on a defense. The doctrine of laches is an equitable defense that seeks to prevent a party from ambushing someone else by failing to make a legal claim in a timely manner.

Laches is named for Lachesis, the middle of the three Fates, or Moirai. Clotho spins the thread of our lives, Lachesis determines the length of it, and Atropos comes to collect you when you reach the end.

When attorney-type people talk about “equity” they mean “fairness.” When you assert laches as a defense you are saying that so much time has passed that you are being placed at an unfair disadvantage because evidence has been lost or destroyed and witnesses may have died, moved away or forgotten what they saw and heard.

The concept of laches has been codified into statutes of limitation. It is a slam-dunk case of malpractice if an attorney blows a filing deadline. But statutes of limitation apply to legal proceedings, not politics. I think you know where I am going with this.

In recent years were have seen a number of rape hoaxes, including “Mattress girl” and the UVA/Rolling Stone rape hoax. There was the #MeToo fad, and we all remember the Kavanaugh confirmation fiasco. Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein were both convicted of sexual assaults. And now we have a woman named Tara Reade who says Joe Biden sexually assaulted her 27 years ago.

For the record: I believe Tara Reade.

But as a matter of policy, how long do we let this insanity continue? Because as sure as death and taxes the Democrats are going to produce several women between now and November who will claim that Trump sexually assaulted or harassed them. And every Democrat within 100 yards of a microphone will announce that they find the accusers credible. Then the day after the election these women will vanish. Until next time.

Sexual assault is a very serious crime. Even in prison rapists are despised – the only people more despised than rapists are child molesters. And they should be despised.

Sexual assault should be taken seriously. But that does not require gullibility or uncritical acceptance of either side’s version of events. And sexual assault needs to be taken seriously by the alleged victims as well.

That means telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, That means victims contacting the police as soon as possible, and not waiting 30 years. That means cooperating with the police and prosecution. That means holding women accountable if they don’t tell the truth.

Last but not least, the news media needs to take sexual assault seriously. That means treating all cases under the same uniform standards.

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229 Responses to Does The Doctrine Of Laches Apply To Politics?

  1. votermom says:

    I never realized this before,but if I click on a tweet to this post, what pops up is the right article but in just a plain page – doesn’t look like TCH at all
    huh – when did they (wordpress?) start doing that?

  2. Michael Wilson says:

    As a side note, Atropos has a nice butt.

    • votermom says:

      She’s giving Lachesis a breast exam – she must be a doctor.

    • Constance says:

      It’s a beautiful sculpture. The hair styles are so detailed and elaborate.

    • swanspirit says:

      While they could represent the Fates, those beauties are the Three Graces, by Antonio Canova. I love this sculpture. I have loved it for a long time.

      Antonio Canova’s statue The Three Graces is a Neoclassical sculpture, in marble, of the mythological three charites, daughters of Zeus — identified on some engravings of the statue as, from left to right, Euphrosyne, Aglaea and Thalia — who were said to represent youth/beauty (Thalia), mirth (Euphrosyne), and elegance (Aglaea). The Graces presided over banquets and gatherings, to delight the guests of the gods. As such they have served as subjects for historical artists including Sandro Botticelli and Bertel Thorvaldsen.

      The Three Fates hold the thread of life.. ..

  3. Mothy67 says:

    I wonder what became of mattress girl. Who would hire her? I doubt even Vox would employ someone with zero credibility. I seem to recall Columbia settled, but was she personally sued?

    • elliesmom says:

      Mattress Girl is a “performance artist” who has found herself a patroness and has had a couple of shows. She’s also become a follower of Jordan Peterson according to the New York Slimes.

  4. DandyTIger says:

    RIP Jerry Stiller

  5. DeniseVB says:

    I think MeToo and BelieveAllWomen died with the left’s reaction to Joe and Tara Reade. I’m not a fan of any “Bimbo Erruption”, especially against men 2-3 decades later, at critical times of their careers. Where was Tara’s memory in 2008?

    • Somebody says:

      Precisely Denise. I’m not saying something didn’t happen, it may well have, but she had plenty of time to speak up. To be fair back when this supposedly happened things were different. It’s taken a long time for society to shred boys will be boys, or she was asking for it, especially when it comes to rich and powerful men.

      I personally think things have gone too far the other way, it’s wrong to strip young college boys of due process. Believe all women is folly, women lie too. I don’t know what happened, but Joe has always been hands. I don’t believe he should have to prove his innocence, that is not how things work. Joe Biden deserves the presumption of innocence just as Brett Kavanagh did. Speaking of Kavanagh wasn’t that the perfect time for Reade to tell her story? How about early in the primary? Better as you pointed out 2008.

      Dredging up decades old accusations is clearly going to be with us for the foreseeable future, eventually people will yawn and roll their eyes.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Betsy DeVos is reinstating the due process article to protect college and high school boys and the left was screaming she was legalizing rape on campuses now. Good grief, the left is insane.

        Isn’t there a secret list of sexual harassment payoffs Congress keeps a slush fund for? I want to see that list and I don’t care what party, fire them all !

    • elliesmom says:

      If the paperwork surfaces that shows Tara Reade did report Biden’s sexual assault, and the result was she was demoted and moved to a different job, and that nothing at all was done to punish Biden in any way, then it would explain why she didn’t bring it up again. What benefit could she expect, and what more might it cost her? She may have been naive enough to believe the #Metoo movement was real, and that after all this time she might get support from other women if she brought it up now. I believe in the presumption of innocence, and Biden deserves that, but I don’t fault Reade for not pursuing it more strenuously back then, and I don’t think she necessarily has an ulterior motive now other than wanting her story out there and to be taken seriously. It could be that hearing Biden describe himself as “the moral choice to Trump” might just have been a bridge too far.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I think DC is more scummy than Hollywood. How does the joke go, DC politicians are like Hollywood for ugly people ?

        It’s what I loved about Errol Flynn’s memoir, written in the 50’s about his life in the 30-40’s, the starlets walked right up to him and he could “grab them by the pussy”, so to speak 😉 He felt bad about that, but had a helleuva lot of fun in his “Swash-Unbuckling” days. His studio tried to take him down by planting two underage girls at one of his yacht parties and yelling rape. Instead of caving to the studio’s blackmail attempt during a contract negotiation, he fought it in court and won. I enjoyed ” My Wicked, Wicked Ways” so much.

        • mcnorman says:

          IMHO DC has become a petri dish of free flowing STDs. My kid left after three years. She could have stayed on and worked remotely, but had enough of the horrid culture.

    • Constance says:

      Tara seems particularly outraged that Biden is running on moral superiority. Women who report sexual harassment were further harassed 30 years ago. I had a friend who reported a married man who followed her around at work, pushed her in empty offices and one time in the corner of the photo copy room and groped and kissed her. She was terrorized and spent her work days avoiding him. They called the man in, he said he didn’t understand her infatuation with him but he had decided not to report her because being a married man, he was all about family and didn’t want to court trouble. The Powers That Be called my friend in, told her they decided she had mental problems because she had this sexual fantasy about a married man and that if she didn’t seek psychological help they would have to fire her. She had to prove she was seeing a psychologist and have repeated meetings with HR. So even though this guy was a 50 year old fugly little troll the men in charge found it believable that a very attractive 20 something had sexual fantasies the abuser. RIGHT. I think the time delay has to do with women need to hit a certain age where they don’t give a rats ass what the Powers That Be say about her. Tara has hit that age. She is not going away. I do believe her.

      • Constance says:

        BTW there has always been a way to deal with these type guys. He had tried the same shit with me, I had a very large boyfriend. The guys all played basketball together once a week. I told my boyfriend the jerk was harassing me and if he got a shot at him during basketball to do some damage. My boyfriend hammered the hell out of the little asshole on the court and I never had another problem.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I got married the year The Graduate came out. A few days before the wedding, a former “serious” boyfriend hacked into an was and sent out an ALL POINTS Bulletin, looked like an old timey telegram when my boss dropped it on my desk and asked if the wedding was still on? I’ll always think of that as my Graduate Wedding Scene Climax moment. Oh.Dear.Gawd. Hope he doesn’t show up He didn’t, he was still stuck in the Philippines were he went to think about his “commitment” issues. LOL, I need to write a Hallmark movie 😛

  6. foxyladi14 says:

    WOOT a new post! Thank you Klown. 😀
    And an educational one too. I love this Site. ❤

  7. Woke Lola says:

    Speaking as a survivor of both child sex abuse and sexual assault who has worked very hard to overcome the consequences of these traumatic events, I RESENT the manner in which these topics have been politicized. I want it taken seriously when these assaults happen, and I want the law to be the guiding institution in addressing this. There is no doubt that our courts have failed in previous decades and centuries to adequately protect victims, but the standard is there if police, judges, prosecutors, and other court officers would only apply the law.

    It is highly offensive to see Democrats use sexual assault of any kind in order to play the kind of politics we’ve seen since the election of our second president. I really can’t believe this is where we are 244 years later. It drives me crazy to see Republicans nonchalantly try to turn the card used on them around and on the other side.

    I just want SOMEONE in politics to be better than this, to be organized about this, and to support the righteous addressing of this residual patriarchal impact. And yes, I do believe it has patriarchal roots. That does NOT mean I blame all men or think only men assault. But history and modern statistical accounting are clear: the majority of victims of sexual assault are (and have been) women and children because they’re simply easier to overpower, coerce, and exploit due to biology and behavioral training.

    My 2 cents, USD.

    • Mothy67 says:

      What do you think the response to false accusations should be?

      • swanspirit says:

        False accusations are so difficult. How to prove you didn’t do something? You have to have proof someone actually did something, rather than leave the burden of proof on the person being accused, but it doesn’t always seem to work that way.

        Once at a hospital where I worked, someone accused me of taking a narcotic out of the lock box, without signing it out, implying of course, I was using drugs. HA!!!
        On my medical record, in that same hospital, the year before, when I had back surgery, was documentation, that I was very allergic to opiods. Broke out in red spots all over.

        When they examined the record, it also showed I had signed it out, in small handwriting at the very bottom of the sign out sheet. But it was there.

        But waiting for all this proof to come out, and enduring being accused, was horrible. It was one of the worst experiences of my life.

      • Woke Lola says:

        I don’t have to think about that. The law is clear on that too. Reporting false accusations is illegal, and if evidence beyond a reasonable doubt exists, prosecutions are warranted as with any other crime.

    • swanspirit says:

      I really could not agree more. 27 years ago, there was very little support for women reporting sexual harassment at work, even though by that time some cases had been brought to the Supreme Court. It has been very difficult, and taken a long time to get to the point where these behaviors are not tolerated, and actions can be taken, against perpetrators.

      The higher up the placement of the harrasser, in the work place, the more difficult the situation for whomever was being harrassed, or victimized. Unless there is some kind of concrete proof, like a videotape, or recording, or an actual witness, credibility is questionable.

      Politicizing any of these issues, removes some of the hard earned gains that have been made to keep these protections in place. Not everyone has a boyfriend, husband, father uncle or cousin, that can go beat up the guy, and they shouldn’t have to. Our daughters should be able to work in a safe environment.

      • Somebody says:

        Amen Swannie, that’s what I meant by times were different and yes hard earned progress has been made. However, tilting the scales to be imbalanced the other way isn’t the answer. I say that as someone that endured sexual harassment at work many years ago.

        I don’t know the truth regarding Biden. I’m inclined to believe it because he’s gropey Joe, but even still he deserves presumption of innocence

        • Constance says:

          I’ve seen enough, my mind is made up, Biden has harassed plenty of women and gotten away with it. I think one thing we’ve learned in 30 years is there isn’t a bureaucratic solution to sexual harassment in the work place. Abusers are on a power trip and they don’t leave evidence. If you are trying to solve a problem you have a responsibility to communicate with the problem person in language they can process. Abusers don’t process bureaucratic BS and they don’t process “don’t ever do that again” or any other warning. They do process a good ass kicking. In my case I considered the “matter” resolved at the time and had actually forgotten it until Tara started talking. Even though I consider the matter resolved if another woman came to me and said Dr Ward did XYZ to me and is running for office on superior moral grounds I would definitely step up and call him out with the other women to back them up.

  8. Dora says:

    Remember this?

  9. foxyladi14 says:

    RIP Jerry. ❤

  10. DeniseVB says:

    Head’s up guys ! 2020 just keeps getting better. 😛

  11. Dora says:

    Obamagate makes it to the Daily Mail! 🙂


    ‘OBAMAGATE!’ Donald Trump steps up his attacks on his predecessor for leaked call slamming his ‘chaotic’ coronavirus response

    • Anthony says:

      “It comes after a recording of Obama’s half hour web call with the Obama Alumni Association leaked on Friday, ”

      Wtf is The Obama Alumni Association???

      • Somebody says:

        It’s a club you never made it into. To gain membership you had to suck O’s dick and kiss his ass. Your standards are too high to be included. A badge of honor IMO 😉

  12. taw46 says:

    It’s the “European” virus.

    • taw46 says:

      I guess according to Cuomo’s logic, we can call it the New York virus, since it has already been proven that it spread from NYC to so many other states. 🤷🏻‍♀️

      • Mothy67 says:

        I try to look at what data is available to me. Just me and my kindle saw the outrageous numbers coming from nursing homes. Also the areas hardest hit are the one’s that fly to NYC for business. We don’t have pockets of infections in brown/black areas like Queens. I wonder if diabetes meds might have an effect. I keep reading diabetics are dying. Might it be the meds that make them more vulnerable? I still only know Somebody who has known somebody. Anthony has not, to my knowledge, expressed knowing anyone who got sick. Dora is on L.I. Vmom is in Philly. It does not feel real to me. I lived in NYC for close to 20 years. I know no one with covid or anyone from that time that knows someone who knows someone. Why aren’t the homeless dropping off like flies?

        • Somebody says:

          I know 7 people who got it, all in the same family. I know of someone in NYC that contracted it too.

          This virus is indeed very real. The travel bans and the stay at home orders kept it from sweeping the nation. Some people have an immune overreaction, this is a novel virus previously unknown to humans. Who might have such an overreaction and why, they are still trying to figure out.

          Queens was very severely impacted. Approximately 2% of the homeless population has it. I’m guessing due to their lifestyle their bodies deal with all sorts of things, so perhaps they are better equipped to fight it off.

          I’ve heard lots of people say I don’t know anyone or even know anybody that knows anybody with covid. I can say the same thing about many diseases. Until my father had ALS, I could say that about ALS. ALS is thankfully rare, hopefully covid will be too.

          • Mothy67 says:

            I am not denying it is real. I am saying it does not feel real. The more I read of the apocalypse dooms day prognostications the more skeptical I become. My local news acts like we will be stabbing zombies in the head any second. I am tired of not living. I have become bored with wine!!! Me tired of vino??? Ugh.

          • Somebody says:

            Everybody knows you don’t stab zombies. You have to get too close to stab them, you need a gun and always double tap 😜

  13. DeniseVB says:

    I’ve watched so many Hallmark movies this week, I have brain freeze.

    • taw46 says:

      I have been rewatching Outlander. Also painting, which I hate. We are painting several rooms in our house. The three of us are kinda old and lazy, so we just do it in spurts, lol.

      • lyn says:

        Can’t get “Never My Love” outta my mind.

        • taw46 says:

          Same here.

          Did you ever read the books? Thinking about ordering the first one.

          • Constance says:

            I’ve read the books twice. They are completely different because they leave a lot out of the Tv show. When Diana first started the series she wrote parts of the first book as exercises and posted them to an authors workshop board for helpful advice. People loved the characters and kept bugging her for more and she was approached about making a book with the characters. So the first book had a frantic pace and it is clear she needs a strong editor. The other books flow much better. You can always find them in used bookstores. The books on CD are good in the car or you can get them as downloads from the library.

          • taw46 says:

            Thanks! I always like the books better than the movies. But I think this has been an excellent series, and I do love the characters. I am watching the series for the second time, almost done with Season 2. Can’t wait to start reading the books. Anyway, it will be a long time before Season 6 since there has been no filming during this pandemic.

        • swanspirit says:

          I love the books!! The series is great too, but there is so much more in the books that could never fit in the series.

  14. jentyx says:

    I copied this from Dr. Hotze (Houston TX) latest email. In addition to stating that in Texas, according to National Geographic magazine, your lifetime chance of being struck by lightning is 1 in 3000. Your chance of dying of COVID-19 this year in Texas is 1 in 50,000. You are 16X more likely to be killed by lightning than by this coronavirus.

    We need an epidemic of common sense to breakout in America, especially among Christians.

    All this promotion of face masks and social distancing is total bullshivic. The viruses are smaller than the holes in the masks and can exit or enter on top or bottom or on the sides of the masks. The viruses are nanoparticles that can float all over a building. You will not be able to prevent being exposed to it. You have been exposed to trillions of germs daily since the day you were born and you are still alive. Strengthen your immune system.

    Take Vitamins A, B complex, C, D, and Zinc. Adopt a low sugar, low carb eating plan. Exercise and sleep well.

    If you are healthy, then you have nothing to worry about.

    I am not a doctor in fact hated science in school but when they started telling me to wear a mask I started reading and what ‘they’ are saying does NOT compute with SCIENCE. The mask does NOT protect you (either prevent transmission or receipt of a nanovirus) and it stays in air and spreads AND enters through your eyes too so 6 ft and a mask is stupid. STUPID. At least tell us the truth. Everywhere I go in Texas most do not wear masks but you who NEVER does is doctors and I live near Texas Medical Center one of largest medical complexes in WORLD. I asked one of the docs why and he gave me ‘that’ look. I know. Dumb is the new in and Fauci and Birx fucked it up and Trump swallowed because he had too they were his advisors and now no one wants to back track off party line. EVERYONE is going to get corona virus, few will have symptoms. fewer will die. NOTHING we are doing has even an iota of impact on getting it, spreading it, etc., etc. WE are just KILLING America. SO SAD. SO VERY VERY VERY SAD. Oh, and we are killing heart patients, cancer patients, stress related deaths, suicides and murders…please America don’t be this dumb.

  15. jentx says:

    sorry, to explain better the list of deaths above are from people NOT going to hospital for fear of getting and dying from COVID 19

  16. Cisco says:

    RNC & RNCC listen up.
    This is precisely why you haven’t received any donations from me and won’t.
    So keep sending me those emails asking for money because the Dem’s pose such a threat.
    Only directly to the Trump/Pence campaign.
    That is all

    • lyn says:

      I’ve only donated when I received a gift–Don Jr. and Dan Crenshaw’s signed books.

  17. Woke Lola says:

  18. Angie says:

    I agree there should be a time limit on these kinds of accusations.
    I do believe Tara Reade & I do think that she may have felt that until #MeToo happened no one would take her seriously. Unfortunately the left sold her a hashtag that is only to be used to bludgeon Rs, not Ds, as she found out.

  19. Angie says:

    • taw46 says:

  20. Dora says:

    Things are getting exciting!


    Uh-Oh. Podesta Says Hillary Knew About Trump Oppo Research That Ended Up in Steele Dossier

  21. taw46 says:

  22. Dora says:

    This guy has got to go!

  23. taw46 says:

  24. Dora says:

  25. DeniseVB says:

    I hate the media.

  26. DeniseVB says:

    Is Newsom extorting the federal government to save his ass? CA’s been throwing a lot of good money at bad ideas (free stuff for illegals) for years. All “blue states” ? Hey, I love you guys, but I don’t want to pay for your bad leadership. Let them reorganize and prioritize their budgets that serves the best interests of their “legal and taxpaying” citizens. /rant

    • lyn says:

      Fuck them, and I live in Oregon.

    • Somebody says:

      A trillion, fuck right off. That is an absolutely absurd amount. You know what asswipe, if you and your buddies can’t figure it out then just stay closed. Your decent, hard working citizens and your businesses can move to other states that can figure it out. Then you’ll be left with illegals, homeless and true believers but the latter will beat feet the closer their utopia comes to fruition.

      Here’s an idea, stop spending money or boondoggle trains, illegals and “green” projects. Cut your budgets back to the basics, if you still need help then we’ll talk, maybe

    • Constance says:

      Fuck them! Our idiot governor is trying to crash our state. I can’t wait for the government job slashing to start. Of course the police will go first but that’s really no problem since even when they do arrest someone they let them out again immediately AND I stopped by the ammo store before I went to the grocery store back when the shut down started.

  27. taw46 says:

    LOL, she is so funny.

  28. taw46 says:

  29. michelina says:

    I watched exactly ten seconds of the doctor’s testimony about how President Trump handled the Pandemic———-they are crucifying him—-GOD help this country—-I couldn’t watch any more—blood pressure spikes watching these assholes-just an FYI

    • lyn says:

      I hope they are crucifying the doctor.

    • Jentx says:

      fauchi is the enemy this entire thing is a political plot for some reason what I said yesterday didn’t post covid-19 is a nano virus it cannot be stopped by masks 6 feet it is everywhere it is the particulates are so small you would have to have a hazmat suit with a breathing tank to not have it enter your system. There is no vaccine you have to hope that you are not susceptible that you’re not older with issues you have to make sure your body is nutritionally protected with vitamin C D lower your gluten and sugar intake and be healthy. Fauchi is the enemy he is in cahoots with Soros and Gates this has to do with money power and control. I live 10 minutes from the largest medical complex in the country doctors do not wear masks outside of the operating room all over my city I see doctors not one of them is wearing a mask. We are going to lose America if we do not read for ourselves and think for ourselves. Fauchi is going to make money along with Gates bizos Pelosi Soros is behind the whole thing. I watched that video plan demek I ordered the book but before all of them I knew something was up because it doesn’t make sense and you don’t have to be a genius. End of story yeah. Look at Sweden look at Sweden look at Sweden I’ll say it until they cart me away. We will bankrupt this country we will be on our knees we will lose everything we have if we do not start immediately pushing back I don’t know what to do I’m at my wit’s end

  30. lyn says:

    Maybe Hillary got to him?

    • DandyTIger says:

      He’s the obvious fall guy. He might want to do some serious flipping before he’s done in. Someone needs to take the fall so they can get away with not punishing Comey and others. He’s played the fall guy character to perfection.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I see Lisa pop up now and then with some whiny TDS comment.

  31. Dora says:

  32. lyn says:

    • DandyTIger says:

      Funny that. It’s as if they’re fine with running their business at a loss or with ongoing damage for a greater chance of political gain. IOW, they’re “spending” to help the DNC.

      • Constance says:

        They don’t lose money. They sell ads based on the number of homes their channel is in. We don’t have the right to cancel their channel from our cable package. So no matter how outrageous they are we pay them each month if we want clear reception on HGTV, ESPN, Disney, FOX news, etc. That’s why we need to option of cable TV a la carte.

  33. Dora says:

    Former British PM Tony Blair Says ‘New World Order’ Is Here and Sovereign Nations Must Recognize China’s Dominance

    According to the Guardian, the left-wing globalist, who was responsible along with former President George W. Bush for the Iraq War, told CNN that sovereign nations must submit to “global concerted action around the economy.”

  34. foxyladi14 says:

    We knew that!!! lol

  35. DeniseVB says:

    JP really nails all my “liberal” friends. 😀

  36. taw46 says:

    I have been listening to some of this hearing, but getting ready to drop out of this bs. Also, I agree with these tweets.

    • taw46 says:

      This one, also true.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Thank goodness for Trump’s “tweet storms” or we would know nothing.

      • swanspirit says:

        And still some people don’t get that the Twitter feed is his one man media stand. They just wish he would stop, because it’s so “unpresidential” , or something.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Wink, wink. 😉 Trump’s ability to breathe is “unpresidential” to them also. They think he’s dumb and his supporters are dumber 😛

  37. Woke Lola says:

    Motherfucking arrogant asshole.

  38. driguana says:

    Great post! I now feel fully Clothoed.

  39. Dora says:

    Bill Gates offered House of Reps $10m bribe for speedy passage of compulsory vaccine bill – CUPP alleges

    • DeniseVB says:

      Smells like fake news 😉 From their website…..I think this would be a BFD and breaking the internet if it were true.

      DailyPost publishes news, information, gossip, rumors, conjecture, opinions, and commentary. The site includes both reported and edited content and unmoderated posts and comments containing the personal opinions of readers on a wide range of topics. You should be skeptical of any information on DailyPost, because it may be wrong.

      • Dora says:

        Thank you. It looks like I fell for it again. 🙂

        • DeniseVB says:

          LOL, it’s because I keep falling for those hope to be true stories too 🙂 I’m pretty sure Gates does “own” a few politicians, but in a sneaky way, like giving a publisher millions to buy a crappy book manuscript, re-write it, promote it, and buy enough to keep it on the best sellers list for a year or so. Cough, Obama, cough.

      • Jentx says:

        I think it is 1000% True. Gates is partnered with Fauchi and Soros—worked together in China (in wuhan actually) for last 15 years. Gates has been testing vaccines in Africa for couple decades (bad results covered up). This is all about money people. No more dangerous than flu. Masks Do NOT help it is a nanovirus particulates are so small just pass right through mask oh and it enters through eyes too good thing is most of us don’t have to worry.

    • Constance says:

      The give away is the amount of money involved. Our House Members would take a $100. bribe to sell us and the country out so this had to be fake. For the most part they are cheap whores.

  40. lyn says:

  41. Dora says:

  42. Somebody says:

    OK, I am officially a little freaked. I haven’t watched much of the hearing but I did catch bits and pieces as I walked by the TV.

    Kelly Loeffler of Georgia was questioning Dr. Redfield director of the CDC. Her question had to do with cooperation from and with China. In Redfield’s answer he started out touting how important international cooperation is and he said it will continue to be important and I quote………

    “As long as we remain a nation”

    WTF? Is there a plan for us not to be a nation? Are we going to evaporate or consent to global government? Are we going to be annexed to Canada, Mexico, China, maybe back to the UK?

    Seriously what in the fuck? Why say that? Why think that? He could say it will remain important to us as a nation going forward…….. It will remain important to us and all nations…… It will remain important until all diseases are eradicated…… Until earth ends…. Until Martians take over. You name how he could have phrased it but he chose to say as long as we remain a nation.

    Nobody batted an eye, at least not that I saw. I rewound and listened to him twice. I wish he had been asked what in the hell he meant by that. If an Obama official had said that we’d all be freaked out and putting on our tinfoil hats.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I wish I was your neighbor, I’d invite you over for day drinking, ordering decadent delivery munchies from bakeries and sub shops and crying at Hallmark Movies. My happy glee nose is still running after the final 5 minutes of the CountryGirlMeetingAFutureKingWhoStoppedToHelpHerChangeATire…yada, yada, they lived happily ever after despite Evil Mom and Lady Ginny trying to TWART the intended finale. Sappy, I know. But even my macho hubby is starting to understand, we can’t do the NEWS to be “informed” anymore. He pats me on the head, lol, in that I understand way 😉

      • Mothy67 says:

        Have you considered a kindle? I have the largest version. They are pretty cheap and are great for surfing. I almost never use anything else to get online. It’s light and easier to read than phone. I wish it was slightly larger but you can’t beat the price. Apps are limited to amazon store so I use my iphone for banking and ordering. I can’t even remember the last time I opened my laptop.

  43. lyn says:

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  45. DeniseVB says:

    LOL, George Carlin was way ahead of his time. He died of heart failure at 71 in 2008, after 3 decades of heart problems, drug and alcohol addiction.

  46. Angie says:

    Troll level: Wizard

  47. elliesmom says:

    Although I had a hard time convincing myself it’s not Saturday, it is Tuesday, and that makes it Tinfoil Hat Day. We’ve spent a lot of time worrying about George Soros having a finger in every pie, but I think the man behind the curtain to watch is Bill Gates. Without needing to speculate, he has his finger in every pie related to this pandemic, and the “solutions” either make him even wealthier or fit with his image of what the world should look like. Let’s vaccinate everyone with an untested vaccine. We’ll see if it works, but more importantly we’ll see what we can get people to accept, even beg for, when they’re afraid. Let’s send everyone home and see how much technology they’ll allow into their homes to be able to earn a living. Let’s call off school so we can rebuild education from the bottom up using our paradigm. Most parents are exhausted, and anything that gets the kids back to school will be fine with them- especially if schools are still closed in the fall. There are only a few individuals in the world positioned to wield as much power as Gates has. And both Fauci and Birx have ties to the Gates Foundation.

    • Jentx says:

      Bill and Melinda Gates, Soros and Fauchi 1000% in on it. Fauchi owns some of the corona 19 vaccine protocols that DO NOT WORK. Bill and Melinda Gates are evil evil and they are GOOD GOOD FRIENDS with the Obamas. They think they are above us all. Have been experimenting with vaccines in Africa. I will post tomorrow my doc did background on the doctor/writer of PANDEMIC and she is one million percent dead right. IT IS JUST WHAT I SAID—power, money evil. THIS Is a nanovirus, can’t be stopped by 6 feet or any mask short of hazmat suit with breathing tank. YOU CAN FIGHT IT. Right now stats in CA are if you are under 85 and in good health you have a .01% of getting it and dying—same as the FLU. Now Gov. of CA wants billions and keep state shut down through SEPTEMBER. Money for illegals, bail out money, keep people down. COME ON people open your eyes BIG LIE easier than little Hitler/Goebbels old school tactic.

      • lateblum says:

        I had an appointment with my MD this morning. He is convinced this COVID19 is one large hoax perpetrated on the world for power and whatever else that power brings with it.

  48. taw46 says:

    2020, gotta love her.

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    Will the people stand for this?

  53. Somebody says:

    I has the sads. I don’t deal well with change, especially technology change. I cling to things. My phone is going nuts, keyboard jumps all over the place at random unexplained times. For some reason when I try to scroll a web page it often magnifies as though I’m pinch zooming but I can’t unpinch, I just have to close. Matters not what browser. There are no more updates for my phone, hubby says it must go, this upsets me having to learn a new phone.

    I have convinced him to try a hard reset, fingers crossed. To add insult to injury my computer is much older than my phone and it too is having issues. Hubby fixed it yesterday and today it’s messed up again……. No, No, No…. Can’t deal with two new tech items….. But wait there’s more, my van is messed up Again, one problem after another it’s becoming a money pit.

    Hubby has been after me for over a year about it. He even enlisted Anthony’s help in NYC last year. I fixed the situation by driving my daughter’s car, she can’t drive anyway and doesn’t seem interested in learning. We took my van yesterday and the check engine light came on yet again, hubby is fed up says he’s done, I need a new car end of subject. He has to return to NJ in July and is concerned about leaving me with old car, phone and computer. He won’t be here to fix things, blah, blah.

    I’ve procrastinated about dealing with any of these 3 issues, now I’m going to have to learn 3 new technologies at the same time. My brain is going to melt. My phone pisses me off it’s only 5 to 6 years old, my van and computer add a decade they are long in the tooth.

    Aha miracle I managed to post this without issue and my phone isn’t reset yet. Although when I type it makes a weird sound like someone is walking on sand, truly bizarre

    • mcnorman says:

      Hertz is said to be on the brink of bankruptcy. The call should happen in the next few weeks. If so, the market will be flooded with another 6000+ cars. Prices should be good. I know it’s a pain to deal with electronics that are dying and a car that no longer can be counted on. Hang in there.

      • Somebody says:

        Way ahead of you McNorman, been watching, they are already unloading a lot of their inventory and most with far less miles than they normally sell. A new to me car, gently used is fine by me. Especially if I save a few bucks. We’ve noticed dealers are responding and some of their prices are dropping to compete. We have our eye on one that hopefully will still be there Friday, which is the earliest we can get down there.

        By the way, hard reset didn’t work……or so I thought. Last night after reset, I tried to reply to you. Screen went haywire, magnified and I ended up at Hoover health institute a site I’ve never been to in my life until last night. I couldn’t get off their page because it magnified to like three words, it was a mess. I was ready to throw phone in trash.

        I went online and ordered a phone. I ended up getting a much more expensive phone than I wanted, but priority was what can I get NOW! My phone will be here tomorrow.

        I ended up rebooting my phone again, didn’t mess with it just went to bed. Lo and behold, it’s working this morning, WTH? Figures, because I finally pulled the trigger on a new phone 😉

        By the way, it’s so nice to have the keyboard working again! It’s not jumping all over and it doesn’t sound like someone walking in sand with every key stroke, amazing! Moral to the story, I probably just bought hubby a new phone.

        • Somebody says:

          Spoke too soon, apparently once the phone gets a little warm it goes nuts.

          OMG, took almost15 minutes to post this

    • Woke Lola says:

      I do feel for you, Somebody. You are in my dream position. I love new tech so much and learning is my favorite thing to do. Not sure if you’re an Android girl or an iPhone poser (heh), but I just got the Galaxy S20 Ultra last week, and day-um. It’s a boss!

      • Somebody says:

        Lola you should be married to my husband, maybe not the two of you together would go broke 😂 Hubby is always upgrading. I know he’ll be jealous of my new phone so I’ll probably give it to him and take his. His phone is only a couple years old. Ditto computer, he’ll be thrilled to get a new one and I’m at least familiar with his, so that works for me. The car, nope he can’t have my car, I’m not driving his POS. We keep cars until they drop 😉 No doubt he’ll “need” a new car too.

        True story, when there is a crisis my husband’s rote response is buy new technology. I think it’s a distraction technique for him, immerse in new tech. When my dad was literally on his death bed, my husband thought it a good time to upgrade. I wanted to murder him and have a double funeral 😂

        When our daughter was diagnosed with cancer, true to form……hubby decides time to upgrade. I’m stuck at hospital with my daughter, freaked as you might imagine. Hubby waltzes in with my new phone and I’m not happy. So sad too bad, here’s your new phone. I literally threw that bitch down a flight of concrete stairs in the parking garage. It took 5 trips down the stairs to break it. Then I used hospital room phone to call hubby and tell him the POS he brought me broke bring back my old phone. Told him I dropped it helping daughter to bathroom and it just broke, total POS.

        About 6 months later, we were inpatient again for a stretch due to horrible complications. Hubby was there and noticed the nurse had the same phone he did. They start chatting about their phones and the nurse pops off. “Yea, when I saw how hard it was for your wife to break, I knew it was the phone for me. She kept throwing down the stairs and it wasn’t until she managed to bounce it off the walls that she finally broke it. It’s common to have phones fall out of your pocket in this job, seeing how well it held up to multiple trips down those concrete stairs, I was sold!. Matter of fact, most of the nurses have them and all the doctors, she really sold us”

        My husband was so pissed. I just shrugged and said “Don’t ever try and force new technology on me during a crisis again, you’re lucky it wasn’t you I was tossing down the stairs!”

        So as you can see, I really, really don’t like new tech. He tried to buy me a new car during those early days too. Had the deal all worked out, but didn’t discuss it with me. My sister shows up to stay with my daughter and hubby takes me “out” for lunch, then to dealer. I showed my ass. I refused to sign over title to my vehicle. Hubby and salesman were pissed at me. Major blow up, big scene.

        That’s why I technically don’t own a vehicle, back then I owned 4 of the 5 vehicles, two of which were my older kids. Two months later hubby insisted the kids car be signed over them, his car to him and then he bought my current van and had it put in his name. He told me I would NEVER do that to him again. It was right at Christmas, my daughter had pneumonia, as well as being on chemo, I didn’t want a fight, so I was like OK whatever. Now times are different and my new car will be in my name, I have not forgotten already told hubby it will be thus. He laughed and said whatever and then said OMG you showed your ass back then. To which I said and so did you, he said yep, tough times, crazy times and honey get whatever you want and yes we’ll put your name on the title. So I’m looking forward to a new car at least a tiny bit, lots of bad memories associated with my van……the title, daughter’s cancer treatment, ready to shred that last memory of that time in my life.

    • michelina says:

      somebody. just take your time adjusting, I know it’s scary, but in time you’ll feel more comfortable———-after 20 years on the same computer, same e-mail I had to adjust everything to a computer at HOME, 20 years ago was at work, it’s hard but doable, the vehicle is a NO_BRAINER———-be happy you have hubby who knows what to do to get you set up with new computer. and phone will come along eventually———-got first smart phone and i’m 61. still trying to figure it out—–I hate it, but have to do it

    • votermom says:

      Somebody, something I read long ago (where is unimportant) stuck with me.
      A guy is looking under the hood of his car trying to figure out what’s wrong and immediately gets angry and frustrated. He knows that he knows nothing about cars, there’s no way he can fix the stupid car.
      Old-timer tells him he’s just not taking the time to look.
      Guy gets even angrier. But after a while, with no other options, he just looks. How one thingy connects to another thingy. I forget how exactly but eventually he sees something that looks loose and tightens it (old book, old car).
      Anyway, the book’s point was that he was letting his own emotions and anxieties get between him and the object.
      So here’s the deal- you, Somebody, are one of the smartest people on this blog. Your comments are incisive and cutting.
      There is no reason that all the dumb ass people doing dumb ass stuff on social media can use new phones and computers so easily and you can’t.
      Put on your big girl panties, put your tech phobia in the trash, and go out to your carrier’s cell store and get them to restart your phone.(and look at a new phone while you’re there)
      Some are doing appointment only times – check

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Somebody, Turn off the sound. sending prayers and good thoughts. ❤

    • lateblum says:

      Somebody, I completely understand. This is why I only upgrade software (or whatever) when the manufacturer forces me to. I have an upgrade for my iPad waiting for me to say “go”. Or at least I did yesterday. I didn’t see the message when I opened my iPad just now. So for all I know Apple already screwed me today.
      Same with my phone. I am also due a new one as my current one is at least 6 yrs old and gives me some moments of agita that last about an hour at a time, But learning how to use these “user friendly” devices is a royal pain and exceedingly anxiety provoking for me.
      Getting a new phone for me is tough. I have Consumer Cellular and I like them, but I don’t like ordering phones from the site, waiting for delivery and then Iearning I hate the new phone. They are lovely to deal with. I am not so much when I get frustrated. Now that dd#1 is in Seattle and I am not, adjusting to new tech sucks. DS is of no help. My co-grandmother feels the same about tech stuff and so we can only support our limitations and anxieties from afar. Not helpful.
      I hope you are able to get the car you want. Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

      Btw…what was the phone you threw down the stairs. I may want to get one of those,

  54. DeniseVB says:

    Good grief. I don’t know who to believe any more

    • DeniseVB says:

      I remember schools shutting down for a couple of weeks if absentees reached 20%. It was always a school by school call, not entire districts or STATES.

      • Somebody says:

        I was shocked by the proposal to close school for next year. I thought Fauci leaned left and was less than helpful in many respects, but to suggest something like this, I’m done too. He is full on political operative. The contrast between Fauci of H1N1 and Fauci of Covid-19 is night and day. There are plenty of you tube videos out there of him during H1N1, stark difference in his tone and demeanor.

        This grand experiment has run its course and it is time for it to end.

        • DeniseVB says:

          For some reason, PDJT trusts this guy? This is too YUGE not too ;0

          • elliesmom says:

            It’s past time to ask, “Cui bono?” I nominate Rand Paul to step forward as Cicero.

          • michelina says:

            I’m not so sure Denise———–it’s convenient Faucci. has CV-19 and no one else does——- I have a feeling TRUMP is waiting for the right time to pull the plug on the GOV’s and DR HITLER———-it will come soon

        • taw46 says:

          I have been done with him for awhile, this is the final straw. I saw Britt Hume on tv last night or this morning, said it was already out there with some “leaders” to keep the country shutdown for 2-3 years. We are living the nightmare right now. Your move, Mr. President, end this.

          • Constance says:

            So they are trying a socialist/Progressive take over. They are willing to take down our country to gain power. The supposed accidental die off of old people in nursing homes is just getting rid of people the state is obligated to support with Social Security funds and Medicare funds that they have already spent.

      • elliesmom says:

        I was in school from 1957-1969. There were polio epidemics, measles epidemics, swine flu epidemics. School was never called off where I lived- ever- except for blizzards, and even then a foot of snow was not enough to cancel school. You just dug out and got there as soon as you could.

        • lateblum says:

          I was just thinking the same thing. The only time anything was shut down was for a weather emergency. And sometimes not even then. I’ve been thinking for the longest time, that although this virus is real and can be deadly, and also scary for people whose family members are ill, that this was conveniently times for the November elections. Nothing else has proven effective for the Swamp’s efforts to get rid of PDJT. This is the next best thing to a bloody overthrow.

  55. taw46 says:

    Pelosi’s new, 1800-page 3 trillion dollar bill. Stimulus checks for illegals, what amounts to amnesty for illegals, bring in more guest workers to work in healthcare. Mentions cannabis 68 times (more drug sales in minority neighborhoods), even more prisoners released, money to study coronavirus “misinformation”, favors richer people in blue states. FFS, stop this insanity. (I am watching Tucker’s show.)

    • taw46 says:

      Sen. Kennedy quoted a movie, “go sell crazy somewhere else, we are all stocked up here”. I love that man.

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  57. Jentx says:

    Yes. Especially when you know they do nothing. Covid 19 is a nanovirus. Particulates are so small they pass right through fabric of any kind. Hazmat suit with breathing tank only way not to get it. Also enters through. Eyes. This is why I know something really bad and weird is going on. MASKS DO NOT WORK. 6 feet means nothing. It stays in a room 10,000 sq. Feet for DAYS. It floats. Good thing is most people don’t need to worry. Hospitals mis-reporting deaths, money is involved. Fauchi is DEVIL. Gates is DEVIL. Trump please wake up. We are losing this war and it is not against COVID 19 it is against tyranny, power mongering, and money and those who would sell their soul to get it all. PLEASE President Trump fire Fauchi, rip off the masks, tell the truth. IT is like the flu, yes, it is bad if you get it but MOST DO NOT. If you are under 85 and healthy you have .01% of dying same as flu. MY best friend is doc, graduated first in her class, she can’t answer me when I ask about the masks—just looks at ground. But she and no docs wear them unless on tv or in operating room or sick place. STOP the insanity. Covid 19 is a hoax makes Obama look puny as a hoax. We are Fighting a war if you didn’t know it wake up people.

  58. Dora says:

    Look who else is wearing his mask! And he never looked so good! 🙂

  59. DeniseVB says:

    Never Forget 😀

    • Somebody says:

      I say we plan a new Woodstock in an open state, trouble is so many artist are liberals. Who shall we recruit to perform?

      Seriously, if we could pull off such an event it would derail the shut down crowd. Why not, most Americans are not working anyway, perfect time for a massive concert.

      Other things that took place during HK flu pandemic, Disneyland and other amusement parks were open. The draft and Vietnam war raged, lots of basic training and GI’s shipped off to Vietnam. Lots of protests of the war took place all over, especially on college campuses. It was an election year so there were rallies. There were sporting events, weddings, graduations, etc.

      Last but not least the second wave hit in 1969 and was said to be worse. 1969 brought Woodstock, but it also brought Hurricane Camille. People in shelters, devastation along the gulf coast. In the aftermath people lived in close quarters while clean up and rebuilding efforts got underway.

      Her I wonder if Fauci went to Woodstock? I hope he’s asked. He’s a little old to have gone, but you never know he’s from NY.

  60. Dora says:

    Pelosi $3 Trillion Bill Includes Gift to China by Waiving “Buy American”

    Like everything with Pelosi’s name on it and trillions of dollars flying through the air, the latest massive porkulus pandemic bill is toxic garbage that includes favors for pot, a bailout for the Post Office, and a big financial benefit for Communist China.

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    Majority of Democrat Voters Expect Biden to Be Nominated, Despite Only Half of Them Wanting It: Poll

    Just over half of Democrats want former Vice President Joe Biden as their party’s presidential nominee, but a clear majority still expect he will become the nominee, according to a poll from Rasmussen Reports, a polling and media company.

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