If B.S. is an ingredient the soup will taste like crap

ALTERNATE TITLE: Black Pundit Buys Gun Because Orange Man Bad

Soloman Jones writes for the Philly Inquirer. Recently he published this:

I bought my first gun because I no longer feel safe in America

In the first half of 2020, gun purchases by African Americans increased by 58% over the same period last year. That’s a bigger increase than any other group, according to a study by the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the firearm industry’s trade organization.

Though I spent my teen years in North Philly during the rise of crack-driven violence in the ’80s and ’90s, I’ve never been a proponent of guns. Not because I was against their use. I just never believed I needed one.

I still believe I’m fairly safe among Black people. I think my family is, too. However, in a time of economic and medical strife, with a president who regularly engages in racial rhetoric that paints Black and brown people as the other, I’m concerned about what the future may hold. To be blunt, President Trump has emboldened America’s racists, and I’ve come to the conclusion that it would be irresponsible to leave my family defenseless.

Okay, Mr. Jones, I’m gonna stop you right there. In terms of violent homicides, the number one (with a bullet) demographic for homicide victims is Black males. And the most likely perpetrators of homicide are (drumroll please) Black males! Your odds of being murdered by a white man are about the same as my odds of winning the lottery.

While I continue to feel safe in my home and community, America as a whole has grown increasingly dangerous for Black people under the leadership of Donald Trump. At first it was just rhetoric that painted Mexicans as criminals and rapists. Then it was the notion that there were very fine people among the Neo-Nazis who marched to protect a Confederate monument in Charlottesville. Then it was the assertion that Black people came from shithole countries, that monuments to slavery should be protected, and most recently, that federal agents should be called in to quell protests against racism.

All of this has emboldened those who hate Black people. We’ve seen their racist actions as they’ve called the police on Blacks for perceived infractions like barbecuing, or sleeping, or birdwatching while black. We’ve seen white supremacists like Dylann Roof commit mass murders against Black people. We’ve seen them challenge government in places like Michigan with heavily armed protests that looked more like Klan rallies than demonstrations against coronavirus restrictions.

There is enough bullshit in those two paragraphs to fill a dairy poop lagoon. Jones must have pulled that first claim out of his ass because there is no data showing increased risk for Black people. That is followed by two zombie lies – Trump never said that Mexicans were rapists and he never said that Nazis were very fine people.

The “shithole countries” kerfluffler is based on an unsubstantiated allegation and it seems kinda hypocritical to defend illegal immigrants by saying that they are coming here to escape horrible living conditions and then bash Trump for describing those horrible conditions as “shitholes.”

To the best of my knowledge, we have never had any monuments to slavery and Trump’s position is that there is a process for such things and we should not let mobs decide what should be destroyed.

I don’t have an explanation for the Karens who call the cops but I’m not sure if it is a new problem or just one that is getting more attention. Either way, I don’t see a causal link to Donald Trump, especially when you consider that some of them are liberal Democrats.

Dylann Roof is a seriously disturbed individual who committed his crimes in 2015 before Trump took office.

As for the lockdown protests, I didn’t see any white hoods or burning crosses. Not to mention that the KKK was a Democrat organization. I guess any group of white conservatives looks like a Klan rally to some people.

I hope I never have to use my gun to protect my family, especially since Black people who are legal gun owners risk being harmed by police who see them as threats to be eliminated rather than citizens to be assisted.

Once again, Jones seems to have reached into his ass for that claim. On the other hand, I do not have any problem with Soloman Jones owning a gun. The same goes for any responsible adult.

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250 Responses to If B.S. is an ingredient the soup will taste like crap

  1. helenk3 says:

    I have lived in Philly. there were neighborhoods where it was not safe to be. While living in Philly, I was shot at while pregnant by a black man. Ever try hitting the floor while 7 months pregnant? It ain’t easy. I have had friends shot and killed. During the White Flight we moved to the suburbs. I saw my grandmother’s home trashed as the neighborhood changed. My husband grew up in a neighborhood of mixed people the gang fights then they used fists, not too many guns.
    I worked mostly night shifts and traveled through bad areas.
    blaming Trump for something that has been going on for many years is just not right.

    • elliesmom says:

      My early morning grocery delivery guy looks like Sidney Poitier. When he came this week, I’d been without power overnight. He sat down on my porch and asked me if there was an alternate way out of my neighborhood because the way he took in had been a bit of an obstacle course. In the process of giving him directions I said, “You need to take a right at the brown house with the for sale sign out front.” He asked me if there are black people in the neighborhood, and I told him one family and two hispanic families, but everyone else is white. He asked me if I knew how many black kids were in the schools. I said I didn’t know exactly, but he and the black AC repairman I adore were often the only black people I see in a month of Sundays. Then he wanted to know what I know about the brown house because he’d like to send his kids to a school that is 99% white. The people in this neighborhood treat him very well, and he thinks the best chance his kids have of aiming higher than being a local delivery truck driver is to send them to school with white kids. I’m pretty sure he owns a gun already from other things he’s said.

  2. helenk3 says:

  3. helenk3 says:

    since we have pizza lovers here I thought this would be a good thing to post

    • elliesmom says:

      The secret to good pizza crust is a small amount of yeast and a long rise. This recipe does it in the fridge. I usually do the first 12 hours on the counter, take out one pizza, and then refrigerate the rest. This crust is a little thicker than I usually like. Even a Chicago style deep dish’s crust is pretty thin. Rhode Islanders like something they call “party pizza”. The crust is almost like a thick slice of bread. This is the first place I’ve lived or spent extended time in where I’m not real fond of the local pizza. Elliesdad found a place he really liked the pizza, and it worked out because there were a lot of other things on the menu. I made pizza for the grandkids when they were here a week or so ago, and they’ve fired the pizza delivery lady. I’d add a tablespoon of olive oil to this crust after the water is all mixed in to make it a little easier to stretch out and give it a little more flavor.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Also, the USPS Union just endorsed Biden ? That would be a big NO from me.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      shared ty 😀

    • DeniseVB says:

      Our city just put out an Alert for these “ballots”, a lot of people are confused. Even the Washington Post named the .org and told readers to ignore them. What a clusterf**k !

      I just makes me want to add burning coals to the broken glass I’ll crawl through to vote in person.

  4. foxyladi14 says:

    MAGAA 😀

    NEWS: Pres. Trump will sign an executive order today instructing government agencies to BUY AMERICAN and helping move supply chains back to the USA!

    “It’s pure Trump…it’s so important as we fight this pandemic and possibly future problems that we bring our supply chains home.” pic.twitter.com/l6dEkQsYpm

    — Trump War Room – Text TRUMP to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom) August 6, 2020

  5. Dora says:

  6. DeniseVB says:

    Just found this out……..what say you Anthony? LOL….well, if anyone can out crazy the Dem crazies it would be this guy. 🙂

  7. Woke Lola says:

    This is the problem. The thinking of these race hustlers is easily debunked, and yet they hold the larger part of the black community in thrall. Meanwhile they sell them a Gordian knot to tie around themselves, ensuring these folks never get anywhere, and then call that racism. There is literally nothing a black person in America can do today except start shooting white people and hope you get them all through collective effort before they draw. They are told every attempt they make is blocked because of racism and they will never escape their fate. It’s pure evil, and there’s no way to fight it except to remove them, which is also problematic. Stalemate for Democracy, maybe.

    That’s a real shame because Democracy is the REAL legacy of white supremacy. We live on a planet where 75% are free to do what they want, wild animals still roam the earth, and legal slavery exists nowhere. We could all be forced underground by the poor decisions of previous generations, or had to flee the planet, or just died out. Instead we live in a motherfucking paradise that no one fully appreciates.

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Remember this? I do. Joe is dirt. No offense to Joe Dirt. Great details in the thread.

  9. DeniseVB says:

    Cool, thanks Ohio !

  10. lateblum says:

    I’ve been hearing reports on the news that the Trump campaign has pulled all adds and closed campaign offices in Michigan. That they have determined there is no chance that PDJT can win Michigan so they will not waste time and/or money in the state. Has anyone else heard this as well?

  11. Dora says:

    Obama’s Legacy: 165 Pages of Records Surface, Detail Cash-for-Fetal-Tissue Scandal

    A series of contracts that began under the Obama-era Food and Drug Administration paid out almost $100,000 as part of efforts to obtain from a controversial vendor tissue from fetuses aborted in the first and second trimester for research into “humanized mice,” documents discovered in June reveal


  12. lyn5 says:

    I enjoyed this film.

  13. Angie says:

  14. Angie says:

    Pray for Trump

  15. Angie says:

    This is awesome

  16. taw46 says:

    This woman is amazing. I hope she is ok.

  17. lyn5 says:

  18. helenk3 says:

    I have seen two biden ads tonight. they insult your intelligence. how he stopped ebola and now how trump did nothing for months on the covid-19. Then in my e-mail I got one from the DNC. they want me to fill out a survey. They must be desperate, I have not been a dem for years. They would not really enjoy my answers

    • somebody says:

      On Wednesday we got FORTY ONE phone calls from move on. Luckily I was gone for part of the day, but hubby was here working. He turned the phone off. We didn’t answer, we never answer spam calls. That’s part of why they kept calling, but 41 times 🤪 My caller ID counted for me😉

      There are no registered democrats in my house. I assume they were calling for my MIL, who was not only a Democrat, but belonged to every left wing group under the sun. My MIL passed away in October, 2010. Their lists seem to be out of date. Shame my MIL won’t be voting, we made sure she and my father were removed from the voter rolls. Then went back and double checked in 2016.

      I have to say even if I was a liberal, calling me 41 times wouldn’t endear me to their organization.

      • elliesmom says:

        One of the things requesting an absentee ballot did for me is it put me on the Republican calling list. It appears no one does GOTV for the Republicans in RI.

    • Anthony says:

      Depending on the outcome of the 2020 election, I might be next

      • Miranda says:

        Come on down!

      • DeniseVB says:

        Have you thought of where your Plan B might take you? I’m always playing this game in my head 😉

        It’s fun when someone on twitter from Cali, NY or Chicago ask “where shall I move to”….they get hundreds of suggestions from the other 47 states, the happiest seem to be Red states 😀

        • Miranda says:

          Hubby wants to move to Vegas, but I have issues with chronic water shortages/drought and 117 degree heat. I’ve said I wouldn’t object to getting a vacation condo there at some point, if the markets get better.
          I don’t really want to live anywhere but NC, but I’d like to move to the coast, even if hurricanes are a problem 🙂

          • DeniseVB says:

            I love the NC beaches, OBX, Emerald Isle, Wrightsville (where I lived as a little girl when dad was stationed at Lejeune). It’s where the local VBers go on vacation 😀

        • Anthony says:

          Your house is on the short list lol

      • elliesmom says:

        Take a look at Portland, Maine, unless you’re looking for a warmer climate. It’s a small city, but lots of top-rated restaurants, art galleries, a growing nightlife. There’s an art district, an historic working waterfront, lots of fun shopping that’s not all touristy, and beautful coastal beaches. Boston to Portland is about 100 miles, and Amtrak makes a regular run for about $25. “Real Broadway” comes to Boston. Lots of world class museums. Ethnic neighborhoods to explore. But no need to pay Boston prices to live with Portland that close. Maine is “purple” so the politics can be fun.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I do love New England and her “quaint” towns. Those were vacation visits and I realize that’s never quite like living there. I did live in Lake Placid (NY) for 6 months, on Main St. over a deli, my perfect life, about 24 years ago, but never forgot the friendliness of the community. I wanted to move there, hubby had just retired and I nagged him. Sadly, that was the year a young figure skater had a “heart event” during a practice and died at the local hospital a few hours later. Had this happened in Boston, probably could have saved his life? Hubby decided that was a sign of a really crappy hospital….he was only in his 50’s then, whiner. Still on my Plan B list 🙂

          Lateblum: I couldn’t think of his name so had to look it up, you must remember how this shook the figure skating world,

          He was only 30 😦

          • lateblum says:

            OMG. Yes!! It was so shocking! And his poor sweet wife. They were a pairs team from Russia. I saw a little cover story on her a few years ago. She went back to skating as a solo for a short time. They had a little girl who was beautiful. I think the daughter became a skater for a short time. (I couldn’t read the article…. I couldn’t remember my password.) I loved watching them skate. They were classically trained. I can’t believe you were there (Lake Placid) at the time. I bet that little town was in absolute shock.

        • Anthony says:

          I lived in Boston during freshman year at Emerson. Loved it then. I need to see how my clients’ income is affected before I can even begin to make a plan. I might not be able to go anywhere if the worst case scenario goes down.

  19. DeniseVB says:

    Heh, heh. Did ya get it ?

  20. Dora says:

  21. Dora says:

    I admit I was a little nervous when I heard him say this.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Isn’t August the month Obama disappeared for 3 weeks to Martha’s Vineyard, and did see/speak/hear nothing while Congress was on their summer break? I hope that’s what PDJT means, a lovely, extended break at Mar-a-Lago. Or maybe a cooler climate property, and just zip it for 3 weeks……..which will draw out his media enemies anyhow? They did leave the Bams alone to party hearty and golf.

  22. DeniseVB says:

    Oprah is losing her marbles or Brandon’s on to something……

    • elliesmom says:

      I won’t discount anyone as being in the VP sweepstakes, but in the Occam’s Razor club, the simplest reason why Oprah is taking a public position on BLM issues is she’s an attention whore, and she hasn’t had much lately. How else can she get herself in the news? She can buy as much of the Weight Watchers company as is for sale, but who takes Oprah’s dieting advice seriously? Her buddy Gayle doesn’t need her help or her name attached to her anymore. She and Steadman could get married, and people would ask, “Who’s he?” Ellen stole the dog schtik. Is she going to stand in the middle of Times Square and toss out car keys to passersby? One of the saddest things to watch is a hasbeen in search of past glory. Oprah needs to buy an island and retire to it, hopefully without any children on it.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Why would the most successful business woman in the worrrrld want to rail against Capitalism and Cops (to protect her ASSets) ?

        I was a fan, helped make her richer than God, but she always annoyed me with her weight “battles”. Not really, any one of us who could afford personal nutritionists, chefs and trainers could lose weight and run marathons.

        What really ticked me off, her endorsing Obama, a guy who wasn’t even qualified to run Harpo.

        • Constance says:

          The Obama endorsement did it for me too. Although I was never a superfan. I’m surprised her magazine gave up. And I really liked that little cookbook by Rosie her personal chef.

    • lateblum says:

      I laughed at the idea of Oprah being in the mix for VP. And I still think it’s unlikely. However, I thought Trump running for office was also unlikely. And who doesn’t know Oprah’s name? To the uninformed, she is way more recognizable than Susan Rice or even Kamala or Warren. So now, I’m not laughing as hard.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I thought Oprah would definitely be the better option than any other Dem. OMG, but she could pull the commies over the finish line ! Nevermind. 😛

      • Constance says:

        I think the main thing is Oprah is too old. The Democrats are starting to suffer from their lack of a sane young bench. It’s been getting worse since 2008.

    • lyn5 says:

      I thought that too.

    • Constance says:

      Oprah has lost her power and she is just trying to ride the movement to increased celebrity. Like all those fame whores.

  23. Dora says:

  24. taw46 says:

    She is such a mess. She said her mother locked her in a closet for two days, never letting her out or feeding her. The left believes every word she utters, because ‘Orange Man Bad and anyone or anything we can use to attack him’. Meanwhile, Miss Claudia is getting tons of attention.

  25. helenk3 says:

    this is just sad to watch. and an insult to this country for him to run for president

  26. helenk3 says:

    what did they do to face book? something about rooms and such but no post thingy

    • DeniseVB says:

      Virginians received over a million *fake* mail in ballot applications from a DC liberal group. Watching my State of Northam do damage control, priceless. 😀

    • lyn5 says:

      Mooch needs to give hers away.

    • Constance says:

      I don’t see Michelle doing any actual work. The White house is shabby compared to her new mansion and she said she was thrilled to be leaving it. The Dems are really stuck. As long as they don’t name one of their bad choices for VP everyone can be happy about their second rate choice, once they name a VP it kills off all the other possibilities. I think Susan Rice is their best choice but she might be indicted by Durham.

    • lyn5 says:

      Those essential workers received bonuses. Mooch is clueless.

  27. helenk3 says:

    does anyone remember when biden charged the secret service rent for the house on his property that they stayed while protecting him and his family?
    that always bothered me

  28. Dora says:

  29. lyn5 says:

    • lateblum says:

      I’m glad he said something. I remember when Jordan’s father was murdered and how involved the police through several states were. And that led to even more protection for him and his family.
      But there may be some of those BLM a$$hoes that will say “It ain’t your world anymore” like they did to the elderly women in Portland the other night. In fact, maybe all of them will treat him like that.

  30. lyn5 says:

  31. lyn5 says:

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’m only on Twitter for the politics 😉 Not the Dembots, just the news. Someone recently did one of those Al Gore Rhythms studies and it turned out that Twitter was only 25% politics. My gawd, what else is on there ?

  32. Dora says:

  33. lyn5 says:

  34. elliesmom says:

    I took Hank to meet the neighborhood militia today. Mostly because I’m not going to go to townhall to get him licensed here until they open up for business, and I want the guys to know he lives with me if he happens to bolt. If he gets lost, the control officer will be trying to track down my son. After all the jokes about what kind of bank account did Hank need to snag a beautiful woman like Ellie, the conversation turned to what do young men have to offer women today. When the topic of what’s going on in cities came up, they think we should go back to when the judge offered jail time or enlist in the Army.

    • foxyladi14 says:


    • Constance says:

      OMG! Wouldn’t you love to see these little leftists assholes in the army basic training. Does the army serve organic vegetables and hormone free meat!

    • DeniseVB says:

      Nothing wrong with that old recruiting trick, jail time or boot camp. Saved a lot of little lost souls in the inner cities. Dh was a recruiter in L.A. in the 70’s, and a BFF to many Sheriff’s departments in SoCal. Did they eliminate this program?

  35. helenk3 says:

    one song that biden is NOT singing

  36. helenk3 says:


    really worth reading.
    I do not like fauci. just a gut feeling that I can not get rid of

  37. foxyladi14 says:

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      Two of our rescue volunteers have been mugged and the police told them they are having a real problem in some areas because people are wearing masks and it is hard for victims to make instinctive judgements about potential danger as the masks both hinder one’s own sight and the ability to judge intent in other. and then, of course, it is very to describe the criminal after the fact. Because – mask 😷.

  38. Angie says:

  39. 1539days says:

    That’s a shame.

  40. Woke Lola says:

    Joe Cannon is still batshit paranoid and crazy, but he still sees through the lies progressives tell themselves. What a long strange trip it’s been.


  41. Mothy67 says:

    Loads of people saying they are losing 1,00s of followers

  42. lyn5 says:

    Where are the peaceful rioters, assholes?

  43. Myiq2xu says:

  44. taw46 says:

  45. lyn5 says:

    • elliesmom says:

      My brother and his wife came to lunch last Sunday. We were eating on my deck and enjoying the breezes from the lake. I don’t remember how the conversation got there exactly, but my brother started talking about his white male privilege. At some point he insisted I was oppressed because I’m a woman. I was treading lightly because the last thing I wanted to do was tear my brother down in front of his wife.

      Although I have taken some breaks from working “outside the home” to take care of family stuff, I have always made more money than my brother. If you add Elliesdad’s salary to that, my brother is left in the dust, and ED shared every penny he made with me. I was from the “What’s yours is mine, and what’s mine is mine, too” branch of womanhood. I went to a much more expensive university than my brother did and graduated without any debt largely because I’m a woman. I married someone who treated me as his equal except when he held my hand to help me up to my pedestal. There has never been anything I’ve wanted to do that being a woman has kept me from doing. My older brothers even taught me how to pee standing up. I about as “not oppressed” as it gets. His wife finally stepped in and said to him, “If you were born with more privilege than your sister, then you squandered it.” She was laughing, but there was an edge to it.

      Today someone on FB used the example of bandaids not coming in a color that matches black skin as an example of white privilege. I think the country should abandon the idea of a “national conversation” about race and work on defining “privilege”.

      • lyn5 says:

        I agree. Oprah has green privilege.

      • Constance says:

        Well who wants those stupid old “flesh” colored band-aids anyway. I like the 101 dalmatian band-aids and the mickey mouse band-aids.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I remember when my sister married a struggling actor she was a little jelly that my Marine had a stable career and income. Meh, I told her, but you have a better chance of becoming a multi-millionaire. (the acting thing never panned out, he ended up in a job with the state and she always worked but they did invest in an old brownstone fixer-upper in the 70’s which is worth about 3 mil now, so I was kinda right 😉 )

        I remember a meme with 3 black men in a court room, the defendant, the guard and the lawyer. It simply said 3 Life Choices. Funny how that works out, choices, that is 🙂

        • elliesmom says:

          I love my brother, but he’s always had dreams but no ambition to carry them out. He’s always said he was going to write a book. He’s had multiple periods of extended unemployment when he could have written it, but he’s 60 years old, and there’s no book. His latest “thing” is he’s going to be a “political consultant”. He sits on the board of the cooperative apartment building he and his wife live in and serves as an elected town meeting member, and he thinks that’s a good start. Maybe if he was 20. His “day job” is managing a website for a large non-profit. His job is funded for the next 7 years so he figures he’s all set to make it to retirement, which will be funded by his social security check. He has never lived more than 10 miles from the hospital where he was born. Never left the country. The farthest he’s ever traveled is when he’s come to visit me in the places I’ve lived. He’s a happy man, and that’s a good thing, but he’s hardly “privileged”. Somehow, I think it makes him feel good to think he is. As I said, I adore wife #2, and I would never tear him down in front of her.

  46. Angie says:

    Twitter has locked me out of my account btw. Trying to get it straightened out with Twitter Support.

    In other news, I ❤ him:

  47. votermom says:

    What were the things Pres Trump announced in his press con?

    • Constance says:

      He talked about how Covid was improving in Florida, Arizona and Texas. He intends to sign an executive order to suspend the payroll tax from July 1st 2020 until December 31, if he is still around, he might extend that in January. He is signing an executive order to stop evictions and extend unemployment. He is signing an executive order to have pre-existing conditions covered by insurance. He signed a most favored nations order regarding drugs so big pharma can’t charge more here than they do in Europe or Canada. He says the mayors and governors of NY, OR, Portland, MN and Minneapolis are incompetent but he needs to have them ask before he goes in to stop the Leftist violence, but if they ask he will be there in 24 hours and clean up the mess.

  48. helenk3 says:

    ok facebook is trying to make me more crazy. now the share button is back

  49. Angie says:

    Polling must suck for the Dems 🤣🤣🤣

  50. lyn5 says:

  51. lyn5 says:

    thread … read up and down.

  52. Dora says:

    Nice treat for the guests. 🙂

    • Anthony says:

      Look at that – not a single one of them holding a brick or a molotov cocktail. Sure looks like a peaceful protest to me.

      • lyn5 says:

        In addition to bitching about no masks, the haters commented how pissed off the group looked. LOL. They seriously watched POTUS.

      • somebody says:

        It would’ve been nice if at least one or two of them had bike locks for the press skulls. A girl can dream 😉

        • DeniseVB says:

          Speaking of bikes, did you see they have about 250k motorcyclists meeting in Sturgis, SD? Ya think antifa will show up to “peacefully protest” them? LOL, hope so 😀

  53. Dora says:

  54. votermom says:

    now that’s some great homeschooling!

  55. DeniseVB says:

    Poor little Antifuglies, nobody likes them. If you had these guys swarming your deck and property, wouldn’t you at least go out with a gun? This guy is brave…..or stupid. Crowd told him the cops made them do it, lol.

  56. Dora says:

    Why do people listen to him anymore?


    Dr. Anthony Fauci says chance of coronavirus vaccine being highly effective is ‘not great’

    White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci that the chances of scientists creating a highly effective vaccine — one that provides 98% or more guaranteed protection — for the virus are slim.


    • elliesmom says:

      There are a lot of corona viruses out there, including the common cold, and scientists haven’t been able to create an effective vaccine for a single one of them. Vaccines have to do two things- not make the recipient sick and block the virus from replicating for a substantial amount of time like at least one season. Often a vaccine can do one but not the other. (A shot everyone needs every year makes a lot of money so that’s not a dsiqualifier.) The best path for dealing with this pandemic is and always has been developing successful treatment for covid-19. If there was a drug that could reduce it to no more deadly than the common cold, a vaccine wouldn’t be needed, and there would be no side effect risks for anyone who didn’t get sick. Which path makes the most money and who makes it? It’s a question the press should have been asking from the beginning.

      • somebody says:

        There are a variety of treatment options, but they get dismissed by Fauci and the vaccine crowd. The only treatment Fauci and company support is remdesivir which must be administered IV and costs $1,000 per dose. It’s only effective in late stage covid and its effectiveness is up for debate. It shortens hospital stay by 2-3 days, but there it doesn’t cut mortality rate of those severely ill.

        Our Healthcare system is designed for early intervention, but with covid there is next to none of that. People who test positive are shunned and quarantined. Told to ride it out unless or until they have shortness of breath. I don’t know where that policy comes from, but it’s evil. It’s backasswards from how any other ailment or disease is treated.

        There are some exceptions out there, doctors that are attempting to treat covid in its earliest stages, when curing the virus offers the most hope. Those doctors are treated like lepers, like witch doctors and I really, truly and honestly want to know why. Where is that coming from?

        The treatments I’ve heard are hydroxy chloroquine, z-pak and zinc (this treatment plan is very much shunned). Ivermectin is another anti-parasite medication some tout. Then there are steroid options, those are less shunned but not widely accepted and used. Oral decadron seems to be the favorite, but the doctors in Texas swear inhaled busonocide is more effective.

        Why are we not funding broad based studies on these treatments? Why are any proposed early intervention measures frowned upon. It is so antithetical to medicine and to America.

        Simple things like vitamin D and C play a role. I’ve read if your tank is low on D you’re far more likely to have severe outcomes. Just recently the super computer at Oakridge identified the reaction to be Bradykinin not cytokine as previously thought. There are drugs already on the market for a rare disorder that results in Bradykinin, let’s try those on severe patients.

        Sitting around waiting for a vaccine is ridiculous and it’s not the American can do spirit…..I just want to know WHY! I know politics, but not every doctor or scientist is a raging TDS infected liberal. What about doctors in other countries? It’s just bizarre

        Lastly, and then I’ll get off my soap box, if it must be a vaccine we’re in luck there too. Evidence indicates the BCG vaccine for TB provides protection, not 100% but pretty high and those that get it have mild cases. The MMR vaccine is being looked at too. Neither of those is perfect, but what if we’d given everyone or as many as wanted it the BCG in March? Maybe things would be different now.

        • elliesmom says:

          My son works in the research labs at Dana Farber. While there will be excitement and celebration there the day a cure is found for cancer no matter which hospital discovers it, there’s also the “We do realize it will put us all out of work” in the mix. The people who are working on a vaccine and the people who are looking for a cure or at least mitigation for covid-19 are in direct competition with each other. While a cure wouldn’t necessarily mean people wouldn’t get vaccinated, the number of people who opt for the vaccine would be much smaller. And a successful vaccine would reduce the need for pharmaceuticals that work to a great degree. Companies invest a lot of money into development, and they place their bets where they think they will pay off or where the government takes on the better part of the risk. For covid-19 the government has its thumbs on the scales for the vaccine.

    • Anthony says:

      Because his bullshit supports their narrative and will help them realize their goal. Their goal is to scare the hell out of people so much that they’ll be too intimidated to go to the polls, and the only safe option would be to vote by mail.

      • mcnorman says:

        Even the infectious internal medicine guys that I know are calling the Fauci bs as political fodder.

        • swanspirit says:

          Of course it is BS. When research was being done on any and all medications or treatments for HIV, everything and anything was included, and nothing was ruled out, if it was thought to be the least bit effective.
          To rule out, restrict, or prohibit the use of a medication found to be effective in some cases for covid, is medical malpractice, and could be murder.

      • lateblum says:

        As Denise would say,”I’d crawl though broken glass to vote”. And I will vote in person even if I have to wait all day. My friends are all set to vote by mail-in ballots. They don’t go anywhere without their masks. I wish I were so diligent. Sometimes I get to the door of the store and have to go back for my mask (if I don’t have an extra one in my bag). Yesterday I finally got my car back from repair work after 3 days without it. I got all the way to the counter to pay for the repairs when someone reminded me to wear my mask. It happened innocently enough. And I felt pretty stupid.

  57. DeniseVB says:

    Morning Joe 😀

  58. Constance says:

    We need a good illustration of Biden Trojan horse with a bunch of Marxist commies climbing out in the White house. Then we can spread it far and wide. Scott Adams We need you!!

  59. swanspirit says:

    Totally tangential, but fun with Boris, talking about Winston Churchill.

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  62. lyn5 says:

    Trump is having a presser soon.

  63. DeniseVB says:

    David schools Oprah.

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  65. elliesmom says:

    My Canadian cousin sent me a link to this-

    • taw46 says:

      I have chills watching that. I have tried to bring up some of these points to my relatives, they aren’t concerned. They don’t see a problem, they are so focused on hating Trump.

  66. Constance says:

    Wow! President Trump just signed his executive orders giving $400. per week extra unemployment. Student loan payment deferment until the end of the year. No evictions until the end of the year. Payroll tax suspension until the end of the year if you make less than $100,000. There may have been some others. He then tried to take questions but one blond I think from CNN just kept blabbering and then stated “That’s a lie” And he said Thanks everyone and walked off to a bunch of clapping and hooting!

  67. lyn5 says:

    Kayleigh is married to a baseball player?

  68. DeniseVB says:

    Funny replies in this thread, or was it Covid-19 ????

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