They Were Just Regular Democrats

Some of the mugshots of “mostly peaceful” protestors arrested for being anti-fascist.

Forget what your lying eyes have been telling you. Just close your eyes, click your heels, and say, “There’s no place like CNN” three times. When you open your eyes you will see Jeffery “Me” Toobin spanking his monkey. From the looks of it, that primate must have been very, very bad.

The Hill:

Most people who were arrested during nationwide protests of racial injustice and police brutality were young suburban adults as opposed to the left-wing extremists groups that President Trump and his allies have repeatedly targeted, an analysis from the Associated Press finds.

Many people charged were young suburban adults from the neighborhoods that Trump vows to protect from violence, AP reports. Very few people charged appeared to be affiliated with highly-organized extremist groups.

Some of those facing charges share views that are radical and anti- government, AP found. Some defendants drove to protests from out of state, while others have criminal records and were illegally carrying weapons. Others are accused of using the protests as a chance to steal or create havoc.

The police killings of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor set off weeks of protests, and more protests have come in the wake of other police shootings, such as that of Jacob Blake.

Despite the fact that most protests have been peaceful, Trump has sought to capitalize on “law and order” as a major part of his reelection campaign. He repeatedly paints the protests, which mostly happen in Democratic cities, as violent and lawless.

“I know about antifa, and I know about the radical left,” Trump said during his NBC town hall last Thursday. “And I know how violent they are and how vicious they are, and I know how they are burning down cities run by Democrats.”

Yet many protestors have had no previous run-ins with the law and no apparent ties to antifa, a far-left extremist group, AP found in its analysis. In fact, AP only found one mention of antifa in which authorities said it was investigating “suspected ANTIFA activity associated with the protests” when a man fired at officers. They did not claim that the man accused of firing the shots is a member of antifa.

However, the aggressive handling of protesters continues on; Attorney General William Barr told federal prosecutors to aggressively charge protesters with crimes, and even encouraged them to charge protesters with sedition. He’s also pushed to detain protesters while they await trials, despite the coronavirus pandemic.

Apparently, being young and living in the suburbs (in mom’s basement) makes it impossible for someone to be a violent extremist. Funny, but I don’t recall Trump claiming they were not suburbans kids.

“Those aren’t suburban kids, they’re extremists!”

Lots of the 60s radicals were from the ‘burbs too. As were the majority of the Manson Family, the Weather Underground, the hippies, and the antiwar movement. The Left has been radicalizing young people for over a century now. So all these rioters we’ve been watching loot and burn our cities like a barbarian horde are just regular Democrats.

The article (and the original AP article) does not mention how they determined who were the extremists and who were not. Antifa does not publish its membership roster. Supposedly they don’t have one, nor do they have an offical spokesman/woman/person/he/she/it.

If I was the person (not) in charge of Antifa I would tell all the members if they are ever questioned by the press or the police they should deny being a member of Antifa. That would make RICO charges more difficult.

As for that whole “mostly peaceful” bullshit, the only definition that makes any kind of sense is if the violent extremists are less than half of the total crowd, it is mostly peaceful. By that definition, Charlottesville was a mostly peaceful protest too.

At what point does a peaceful protest become a violent riot? How many violent assaults, arsons, lootings, and/or murders does it take? If you have a group of 1000 protestors and just 2% of them are violent, then you have 20 people committing arsons and felony assaults. Having watched a few videos from these riots I would say that the violent ones are far more than 2% of Leftist protestors. I typically see two kinds of Democrat protestors:

1. Antifa/BLM thug types who use/advocate violence with the goal of overthrowing the current system.

2. Hippie peaceniks who want Antifa/BLM thug types to use violence to overthrow the current system.

The most disturbing development this year is prosecutors who will not prosecute Antifa/BLM violence but will move heaven and earth to prosecute anyone who attempts to defend himself and/or his property.

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275 Responses to They Were Just Regular Democrats

  1. Somebody says:

    The upper left picture is a unique way to disguise marionette lines.🤣

  2. taw46 says:

    “…. young suburban adults from the neighborhoods….”

    No one in my neighborhood looks like that. And my condolences to Portland if these are representative of their neighborhoods.

    • Constance says:

      There is a really good bagel shop a mile away that makes amazing Ruben bagels. The only problem is the people who make your food look like those creepers in the mug shots. I really enjoyed the food a lot more before i saw who made it. Actually I haven’t ordered from there since the day I walked in the store.

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  5. helenk3 says:

    Watching the vote this morning for Judge Barrett and the ignorant actions of the democrats in not showing up to do their job, they have become an embarrassment and an impediment to this country. Vote every democrat out of office. Vote anyone but a democrat.

  6. Dora says:

    Melinda Gates: ‘Life will change forever… we will build back in a better way’

    The co-chair of Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation spoke about innovation, livelihoods, and how coronavirus disease will change the world

    https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/melinda-gates-life-will-change-forever-we-will-build-back-in-a-better-way/story-a5MkRGUaROGxcxzmMX7fsJ_amp.html

  7. foxyladi14 says:

    The Big Guy??
    BREAKING: Hunter biz partner comes forward to confirm Joe Biden received a cut of son’s China deals https://t.co/0aqchniuPT

    — Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) October 22, 2020

  8. foxyladi14 says:

    Trump Resistance Plans ‘Mass Mobilization’ After Election To Shut Down The Country If Biden Doesn’t Win
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/20/trump-resistance-plans-mass-mobilization-after-election-to-shut-down-the-country-if-biden-doesnt-win/

  9. Dora says:

    • Jentx says:

      This is bullshit. Earlier this week a study came out showing that 85% of people who test positive for Covid wear Masks 95% of the time. You can’t avoid getting this for the most part you can socially distance you can avoid going in buildings with lots of people who’s going to be hard to live your life what you need to do is lose weight give up sugar add magnesium zinc vitamin A C and D to your diet and just hope it’s not your time. 99.9% of people who get covid-19 more people die of the regular flu than covid. This is about power control and money we need to push back and push back hard I wish the entire country would just say fuck it

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      So now we are playing six degrees from Kevin bacon?

  10. swanspirit says:

    Burning down cities, looting, and shooting, costing billions of dollars, and lives, is “mostly peaceful”. Just kids from suburbs. Antifa is just an idea. SMH

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  13. foxyladi14 says:

    Did you see?
    How Graham is continuing their Senate duties by having 5 more other judges presented to be voted out of committee and no Dems there to say a word. 😆

    • Constance says:

      Way to go Republicans! Get it done. And even IF Democrats manage to steal the election we Trumpites aren’t going anywhere, and we are armed.

  14. helenk3 says:

    Is there any enemy of this country that the dems don’t like? Hillary gave Russia our uranium, backtrack gave Iran pallets of cash, biden gives China access for cash.
    we sure do not need outside enemies with this bunch of inside enemies

  15. mcnorman says:


    Uncut Leslie Stahl interview with POTUS.

  16. lyn5 says:

  17. lyn5 says:

    h/t elliesmom

    I started watching “Uncle Tom” last night, and in the beginning a man said those who call me Uncle Tom haven’t read the book.

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  20. helenk3 says:

    Dear Ms. Pelosi:
    I write to you out of utter disdain! You are as despicable and un-American as the traitor Jane Fonda.
    I am a soon to be a 75 year-old who has voted in every state and local election since 1966. I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats alike. I have worked on campaigns for both Republicans and Democrats, white and black. I served the country that I love in Vietnam, as my son did in the Middle East . I was awarded two bronze stars. I have been involved in politics since age 6 when my father was campaign manager for a truly great American Congressman, Charles Raper Jonas, who worked for his constituents and his country, and was to be admired, unlike you.
    You obviously haven’t read the Constitution recently, if ever, the Federalist Papers, or even David McCulloughs book on John Adams. You ought to take the time while riding around in your government provided luxury executive jet to do just that. You represent Socialistic and even Marxist principals that our founding fathers tried to avoid when setting out the capitalistic republican form of government represented by our Constitution.
    I find it interesting that you and your husband are multi-millionaires with much of your fortune being made as a result of your public service. You have controlled legislation that has enhanced your husband’s investments both on and off shore. At the same time you redistributed the wealth of others. Our system of a free market economy is being destroyed by the likes of you. You ride around in a Gulfstream airplane at the tax payers expense while criticizing the presidents of companies who produced something for the economy. You add nothing to the economy of the United States; you only subtract therefrom.
    I would like to suggest that you return to the city of fruitcakes and nuts and eat your husband’s canned tuna and pineapple – produced by illegal immigrants and by workers who have been excluded from the protection that 90% of the legal workers in the United States have.
    I await your defeat in the next election with glee…
    Don’t ever use the term un-American again for protesters who love this country and are exercising their rights upon which this country was founded. By the way, while I served in the Army, I was spit on by the same type of lunatics who support you and who you probably supported in the 60s and 70s. You are an embarrassment to all of us who served so that you would have the protected right of free speech to call us un-American. But at the same time, I have the right to write you to notify you that I consider you to be un-American, as do the majority of the people of this formerly great country. You are a true disgrace to most of the people who served this country by offering themselves for public service in the United States Congress.
    I feel certain your aides will not share this letter with you, but I intend to share it with many…
    cid:169d1919c5b7e28bb431
    cid:169d1919c5b7e36d2c42
    Let’s help this man fulfill his ‘commitment’ to Pelosi by sharing his remarks.
    1 Comment
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    JoAn Mears Forrest
    MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY. !!!!! WAY TO GO MR. Guthrie. It’s way past time we made these politicians accountable to we the tax payers who pay their salaries and they work for US. NOT THEMSELVES.
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  21. helenk3 says:

    can someone check the basement please? I have tried 3 times to post a letter to pelosi shown on facebook. for some reason it does not show

  22. taw46 says:

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  24. taw46 says:

    Is this for real? LOL

  25. Angie says:

    We haven’t had a president this savage since Teddy Roosevelt took a bullet to his chest & gave his speech before going to the hospital

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  27. Dora says:

    I can’t take mush more of this.

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  29. Dora says:

    Harris, prominent Democrats listed as ‘key contacts’ for Biden family business venture projects

    EXCLUSIVE: A list of “key domestic contacts” for a joint venture involving Jim and Hunter Biden and now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. included former Vice President Joe Biden’s current running mate Sen. Kamala Harris, among other prominent Democrats, Fox News has learned.

    An email exclusively obtained by Fox News, with the subject line “Phase one domestic contacts/ projects” and dated May 15, 2017, Biden’s brother, Jim Biden, shared a list of “key domestic contacts for phase one target projects.”

    The email is unrelated to the laptop or hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, the former vice president’s son.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jim-hunter-biden-china-joint-venture-key-contacts

  30. jeffhas says:

    What he needs to do is point out how Joe Biden took advantage of his own weak, addicted son to push him out and earn money for the Joe Biden Family. It’s awful, despicable, lowest form of life…. he has no arms, no legs, he just slithers…

    • Somebody says:

      ^^THIS^^

      Biden will deflect and cry poor pitiful me, my son is an addict like last time.

    • Constance says:

      I agree. I sort of feel sorry for Hunter. He is an adult so he is responsible for his own behavior. But no mistake Joe groomed and used Hunter. It’s sickening.

      • Mothy67 says:

        Wasn’t his thing crack? There are a lot of opinions on addiction. I am merely reflecting what I have been taught and saw– drunks end up as drunks to cope and if they are genetically disposed to addiction they will increase using booze in social situations until they become dependent. Coke and crack do not have the same physical dependence as booze. It is all mental. I have never smoked crack. Never even wanted to. I have seen souls lost when I did 9 months in rehab. I am no saint. I snorted blow off Jade Sterling. Catch me now I’m Falling fame. It was never my thing. You want more when you are on it and for me the crash was very hard. Psychiatrists say there is no physical addiction it is all mental. I had to dwell in Ronkonkoma with people out of prison. Just an educated idiot is me but what I have seen in hard core users is an obsession with power. I am not talking about a run down kid who grew up where crack was like grilled.cheese. i had to live for 9 months with men who had done time. Crack or cocaine makes you feel powerful.
        I wish I had the gift of words. What i have seen!!! Hunter was discharged. I have studied A variety of religious experiences and read all of the big book. I would bet everything I have that Hunter is still an addict and would say extreme. You need something like a spiritual rebirth to walk away from a high level of addiction. Ya dont abandon your own child if you have accepted yourself with allyour flaws. I even wonder know about Jill. What kind of an educator accepts repeated red flags from hunter?

  31. foxyladi14 says:

    Let it be soon. 😀

  32. Angie says:

  33. foxyladi14 says:

    First Ice Cube, then 50 Cents and now Waka Flocka Flame
    http://xxlmag.com/waka-flocka-flame-trump-better-president-barack-obama

  34. Angie says:

  35. foxyladi14 says:

    Last Update 37 mins ago
    President Trump plans to bring Hunter Biden associate Tony Bobulinski as guest to debate

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/president-trump-plans-to-bring-hunter-biden-associate-tony-bobulinski-as-guest-to-debate

  36. Dora says:

    I love this picture. 🙂

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  38. Mothy67 says:

    Signs are popping everywhere here. It is normally too polite and I have never seen what I am seeing now. A Hiden poster in a yard next to another house with a yuuuge Trump flag. I’d say it leans Trump. If he can get 30% of my hood it bodes well for PA. I think he will do much better.

  39. Mothy67 says:

    May I ask what does is it entail for you to vote?
    I walk to the grade school and wait tops 15 minutes. I am in and out in under 30 usually it is closer to 5. I have voted since I turned 18 and it has never even in the lower east side of NY taken close to an hour.

    • elliesmom says:

      My usual polling place is the town senior center. It’s about 5 miles away. The line has never been long. The pandemic has shut the center down, and my polling place has been moved to one of the town’s two elementary schools. That’s about 10 miles away. There aren’t a lot of people in my town Only about 9,000, but it’s around 57 square miles. Nothing is close in. The entire town will be voting at the same place, and it was recommended that high risk folks and seniors vote ahead of time by requesting a mail-in ballot. I’ve voted many, many times in many different kinds of places since 1972, and I’ve never waited more than 10 minutes anywhere.

      • Somebody says:

        In 2000 and especially in 2004 the lines were terrible here. I had never waited in line before, maybe 5 minutes. In 2000 it took about 1.5 hours, but in 2004 it took almost 4 hours to vote.

        The county has since added multiple polling places. Now we pretty much walk in, vote and walk out.

    • 1539days says:

      They moved locations to my old church, which is more convenient than last time. The county is split up so much that there’s maybe 20 people max in there on a presidential election. I’ll have to take some time of to vote (or go well after dark, which I don’t like) with a family member. They may have consolidated this year, so I’m not sure how “busy” it will be. New York only has absentee ballots, but “scared of COVID” is a valid absence.

    • swanspirit says:

      My polling place had to be moved, because it was in an assisted living/ rehab/ nursing home. It was very convenient, parking was easy, and I was always able to get in and out very quickly.
      But now for early voting, it’s in the giant convention center in Ocean City, so I have no idea how it will go. I just plan on going very early in the morning, and hope there isn’t a huge crowd. Parking is a nightmare there too.

    • lateblum says:

      I tried to vote today. Early voting began Monday at the civic center. IT’s a little out of the way for me. but i was returning home from being “the adult” with Calamity for remote learning this afternoon. So I decided to give it a go. Hahaha! you couldn’t find a parking place for blocks. I don’t think anyone is as concerned about COVID in this town as they are about showing how “woke” and Democrat they are. The entire center is surrounded by at least 100 lawn signs for democrats, of course.
      I think I’ll try again another time. Or else I’ll walk to the Jr High school about 8 blocks from me on election day. I’m just really glad I opened the letter that announced where the polling place is this year. I’ve been voting at the Methodist church for the past 20 years. I don’t know what made the Bd of Elections change the location. Maybe the church finally said “not again”..

    • Constance says:

      In Washington state we have had mail in ballots for at least 15 years. All ballots have to be in the ballot boxes by election night or post marked election day. They accept and count ballots that straggle in with a correct post mark for two weeks.

  40. Anthony says:

    Ho Lee Phuck – Bobulinski spilling ALL the T to the press about Biden and Chinese money in news conference

    • Somebody says:

      He said it started in 2015. So Ukraine was 2012 to 2014 and then in 2015 they moved to the greener pastures and deeper pockets of China. Biden was VP during all those years

    • elliesmom says:

      What I find interesting is all of th Biden defenders who say these stories can’t be true because Biden never declared any of this money on his income tax. Like someone taking bribes ever would? I’d like to see him account for his lifestyle on his senate salary. I’m guessing there’s a “trust” somewhere that owns his properties.

      • Somebody says:

        Oh I know. What line on form 1040 is for listing total bribe income? Do you get a W2 or a 1099? Maybe there is a special schedule form to fill out. The little known schedule FU, reserved for crooked politicians 🙄

        The tax argument is so ludicrous. Ditto when reporters would report breathlessly that Trump’s tax returns might show mob payments.

        I agree with you EM explain your lifestyle Joe. Ditto for a LOT of our public servants.

      • 1539days says:

        There were a bunch of Obama guys who had to “amend” their returns because they didn’t report all kinds of income.

      • Constance says:

        I know! Have you ever heard anything so stupid in your entire life?! Democrats are stupid. I wonder if all the Biden houses are owned by a trust.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        Well they often try to blame Turbo Tax for not getting things right. As if they just pick up a copy of the Congress, Lobbyist and Swam-creature Critters Edition each tax year at Best Buy. And it’s Not their fault the software does not ask species like did you send a pallet of money to an USA enemy or did you take or give bribes, foreign or domestic, during the tax year.

  41. Mothy67 says:

    Ugh
    My sister got tickets to see Mike Pence tomorrow at the county airport. I have missed all events because of travel. I can walk to local airport. I just don’t know if I can spend hours with my sister that I love but i cannot talk to.

    • Constance says:

      Well that is one thing that masks are good for you can make faces at people that irritate you and they can’t tell. And then since you will be in a crowd you can fake like you can’t hear her. So being with her might be nice.

  42. taw46 says:

  43. Mothy67 says:

    Ouch

  44. taw46 says:

  45. taw46 says:

    A thread.

  46. Angie says:

    Ho Lee Phuc
    My mom doesn’t think this changes anyone’s vote but does agree with me it could prevent some who would have voted for Biden from voting at all.

    • elliesmom says:

      I have a friend who has already voted for Biden because she thought he was the more honest man. She’s angry she can’t her vote back. She thinks if Biden wins, the Democrats will immediately start impeachment hearings. They won’t wait for the Republicans to do it. She may be right. They really want Kamala Harris anyway.

      • 1539days says:

        In 2008, I was voting more for Sarah Palin than John McCain.

      • Somebody says:

        Isn’t impeachment for things that occur while in office? Technically they could impeachment him for actions while VP and ban him from holding public office.

        However, I’d think at first the D’s would say it’s old news, nothing there. A friendly special counsel would be appointed and it would drag out. Eventually Joe would probably resign, but I doubt they’d impeach him at least not until halfway through his term. They’d use him to sign off on all their radical schemes. If he makes it halfway and Kamala takes over then she can complete that term and two more.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        This is why early voting isn’t always a great idea, IMO.

    • SHV says:

      “Ho Lee Phuc”
      ****
      May have to change to “Ho Ye Phuc”…..from some e-mails it seems the Ye family controlled the money flow to the Biden Crime Family.

      “The kingmaker clan behind Xi Jinping
      Some 2,000km south of Beijing, the Ye family pulls the levers of power”

      https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/The-kingmaker-clan-behind-Xi-Jinping

  47. lyn5 says:

    • lyn5 says:

      Mollie @MZHemingway

      He says that he’s turning it over to FBI and Johnson’s committee. Reporters ask nothing about the substance but instead who paid for him to be here. “I paid for myself.”

  48. lyn5 says:

    • 1539days says:

      Journalists have never been unbiased. However, some outlets tried to be fair. Then they got criticized by left-wing nuts because telling both sides meant the “wrong” side would get airtime.

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    • lyn5 says:

      Stephen McIntyre @ClimateAudit

      WaPo doesn’t actually report on Bobulinski allegations, but is generalized anti-Trump rant. Newspapers which had wall-to-wall coverage of fraudulent Steele allegations protest that actual emails can’t be verified, but sneer when Bobulinski verified. https://washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/

  51. Mothy67 says:

    I need to offer my gratitude. Raising a kid not mine it has helped so much to read ditties from a great teacher. I take a step back and glance cause you have shared. Oh i want to say more than I do but I would be putting the stool in the chipper. Not want I want for my annoying brat.
    So thank you for deciding to share.

  52. lyn5 says:

    I’m going to watch the debate without sound.

  53. 1539days says:

    Biden: Trump has no plan. My plan is to wear masks.
    Trump: I have the logistics of the military ready to distribute 100 million doses of the vaccine.
    Yeah, no plan.

  54. 1539days says:

    That was awesome! Trump said that people can’t live in a basement like Joe Biden. He must have made a lot of money somewhere to live in the basement all the time.

  55. Woke Lola says:

    Trump doing very well tonight.

  56. swanspirit says:

    Joe Biden is a God damned Liar

  57. 1539days says:

    Also, Biden looks like he’s been shot up with something. He isn’t blinking.

  58. Anthony says:

    Why is the mod challenging Trump and not Biden? (not a serious question)

  59. swanspirit says:

    Oh, here we go. Election security. Biden is digging his own grave.

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  62. 1539days says:

    She really cut off Trump when he mentioned that e-mail.

  63. Anthony says:

    Joe’s beginning to unravel and Kristen Welker is a c***🤬

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  66. Somebody says:

    Biden just said he was going to eliminate the oil industry. Trump called him on it, Biden stammered and stuttered some crap about phasing it out.

    • lyn5 says:

  67. Anthony says:

    I think he blew it on the last question

    • swanspirit says:

      Definitely. He went into some pre-rehearsed spiel, and it was very ineffective, and contradicted what he said before.

      • Anthony says:

        Actually Trump. The question was something like “What would you say in your Inaugural speech to unify the country?”

        • lyn5 says:

          LOL. I’m still rolling in my bed worried about health care.

          Here’s bookwormroom live blogging of the question.

          At inauguration: What does Trump say to Americans who didn’t vote for him

          We’re going to rebuild our country. Before plague came in, I was getting calls from people who wanted to work with him based on people thriving economically (women, blacks, Asians, etc.). Success will bring us together. If Biden gets in, a terrible Depression.

          Same question to Biden:

          I represent all Americans. Science over fiction, hope over fear, will grow economy, deal with systemic racism, and make sure economy runs on clean energy. The character of this country is on ballot. “Respect, treating people with dignity.”

        • Woke Lola says:

          I agree. I also think he blew the question on what he would say to black families concerned about their children. He could have said everything he said a different way and made a direct appeal, but instead he ticked off the same list he’s been ticking off all year about what he’s done for the black community.

          Otherwise I think he did great overall. I think Joe also blew the race question, among a number of gaffs tonight, including invoking Hitler. We’re at a point where Godwin’s Law applies to politics, and that’s a fucking low bar. I kinda love it. I hope there’s a similar subtext of shark-jumping with its presence here too. LOL

          • lyn5 says:

            In the interviews, Trump has said successes would unite us. However, I don’t see the Trump haters ever supporting unity in our country. Look what they did to the China virus.

          • Angie says:

            I disagree about Trump blowing the race question–many watching the debate haven’t seen his rallies or even other interviews. It was important he get those achievements out there for those people because the news doesn’t cover them.

          • Anthony says:

            It was the first time a lot of people heard that list, so I get it. I bet a lot of ‘journalists’ immediately tried to discredit him about this but found out, to their dismay, that its the truth

    • mcnorman says:

      Blah blah sputter sputter. Yes, he was rowing with one oar in the water.

    • lyn5 says:

      My guess is Joe knew the question, and he’s still full of shit or drugs..

    • Angie says:

      My mom said same thing.
      But it doesn’t overshadow Biden saying he would shut down oil industry.

      I think Trump could have done better on last question but it does show he is not a politician but a guy focused on results.
      Biden’s answer showed he was a full of shit politician.

      • Constance says:

        Very true!

      • Anthony says:

        Just because he blew the question doesn’t mean he lost the debate. I’d be dishonest if I didn’t admit his answer was a little disappointing. I also understand it was the last statement of the debate, and that’s the best time to make your elevator pitch to the American public. For nany people, that’s what they’ll remember most.

        • Miranda says:

          I can’t believe there are many people who haven’t decided who to vote for.

          • Anthony says:

            There has been buyers remorse for voting for Biden after he came out against fracking and eliminating fossil fuel last night. I suspect some “decided’ voters may have changed their mind. Its not so much about undecided voters as it is about providing proof that Biden is lying about everything. Couple that with the bombshell press conference beforehand, I think Biden’s polling numbers will shrink

          • Mt.Laurel says:

            It’s making it hard for Ds to vote for Biden and just staying home. I do not see camel as a pull the way Sarah was for Mc shame.

          • Anthony says:

            Its the ones that voted by mail already that are probably the most pissed off. And you’re right about Kamaltoe. She’s vile, and im hearing that from a lot of women

  68. lyn5 says:

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    • elliesmom says:

      I know the “betting pool” at Fox chose “C’mon man” as the phrase you needed to guess, but I don’t know if “C’mon” counts. I had to told myself to count them, but i lost count.

  70. Dora says:

    Wow!

    ===

    LI Supermarket Announces Discount For Trump Supporters

    “We live in a free country​ and we have freedom of speech,” the store owner said.

    https://patch.com/new-york/sayville/li-supermarket-announces-discount-trump-supporters

  71. Mothy67 says:

    I had to walk away from tv at the 15 dollar minimum wage. The bigchains already pay 15. A small store or restaurant might provide many benefits you can not get from a chain. I had a bartender who was amazing but she had kids and was never on time. There was a crisis every other day. She could make 400 on a good night and 25 on a slow lunch. I did this thing because taxes were insane. I paid a minimum for every shift. It was 1099 or something my workers were all independent contractors. I would make up the difference if they did not make 50for a lunch shift which was 5 hours. I gave food and always comped when they came in. One I had to fire. She didn’t show for work. She was with a bad guy she had found out there was one in the oven. She reacted by getting bombed. I fired her, but her house which at that point had no electricity was just up the hill. I said let’s make this better or at least as good as we can. I saw someone worth riskinga shotgun from crazy ex. I paid ten an hour, but I cared about my employees.somedays lunch sells were 30. I would not have opened until evening if I had to pay 15 an hour. 14 people would have not had that income. I would prepay employees. One girl would show up asking for a smoke. I’d pay her to run across the street and get smokes. Another worked at the gas station. I saw a diamond in the rough. she didn’t know where life was going. Cashier. I taught her how to run the place. She got a job with a chain and is now a district manager. I saw a young woman who worked at the only gastation in town. She knew everyone. I said work for me. Ihad bought a drug den and turned it into a clean well lit place. I needed support as some were saying it was a gay bar. Go ahead give me a challenge. I do not lose – i hired the cheerleaders and football captains from a few years back. My bar was packed everynight. The bartenders from other bars would come in and ask me to not tell.
    I sold my share when my SIL got involved. She needed rules and thought somehow me when not working totally off the clock as a gay man making out with women on a few occassions was reason to lose her house. She really felt like her gay brother in law making outwith women in a bar was a crime. They are voting for hiden. I have a very long list of people I have kissed. Carol Channing is on it.
    my point is that 15 dollar minimum wage would have hadme be closed during the day. I did some good. I freely gave my years of experience to the women that worked for me. I think people that want to dictate small businesses have never run one.

    • 1539days says:

      My company pays $13 for the low level employees. We have trouble hiring as they are no-shows or fail the drug test. The market decides what you can get away with. Down the street Dunkin Donuts pays $14.

    • elliesmom says:

      I have some yardwork that needs to be done. A friend who knows I get along well with high school kids recommended a boy she hires. She told me she pays him $20/hour because “he’s a nice boy”. I asked her how much supervision he needs. She said she works along beside him because he doesn’t know a lot about landscaping. I asked if he removed the yard waste when he’s done. He doesn’t. She takes it to the town yard waste disposal at the transfer station, but since I live in the woods, I could dump it there when he’s done. I asked if he had his own equipment, and he doesn’t. I have an estimate from a professional landscaping company to come in and clear away the yard waste from the “not woods” part of my yard, suck up the leaves, and mulch my bushes for $150. I don’t have to do anything or provide anything. For $10-12/hour I might hire the kid, buy the mulch myself, and spend the day working with him in my yard, but at $20/hour the landscaping company is the better deal. They’ll be getting paid more per hour because they’ll be in and out of here in two hours, but it won’t be any more out of my pocket. For people who don’t know this teen and have no personal interest in helping him fund his education, she’s priced him out of the market. The same thing happens when we raise the minimum wage too high. More competent people get the entry level jobs.

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    It’s interesting. A number of people are talking about the noticeable drop in Biden’s faculties after the 1-hour point. If he can’t hang on for an hour after being rested for 3 DAYS, they might as well change the ballot to Harris / Vegetable.

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    Aside from the dumbasses who early voted and now changed their minds, most of the people who voted early knew who they were voting for 2 years ago. So, this whole issue of “X number of ballots are already cast” is a false argument. People who just need to see how incredibly bad Biden is to vote for Trump are still out there and they can be reached.

    • lateblum says:

      ^This picture^ shows a much healthier Biden than any image I’ve seen in the last four years. Last night, Joe looked like a caricature of himself. And his eyes . . . omg. His eyes were scary.

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    Wow. The Old Turds are lowering expectations on the debate and they are trying to cherry pick all the first half-hour clips when Biden was still manic and lucid-ish.

    By the way, look for the lowered expectations game from the media. “He could still lose” will come up a lot with Biden. They think Hillary’s overconfidence was the problem in 2016.

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  83. elliesmom says:

    This is a sincere question. If a family came over the border, and the children were separated from their parents and put into government care, couldn’t their parents contact immigration and ask where their kids are? If I lost my children to governmnt care, the government wouldn’t have to come looking for me. I’d be looking for my kids. Doesn’t that the government can’t find their parents mean it wasn’t their parents they taken away from from?

    • 1539days says:

      I think there were some initial problems where the federal government couldn’t identify / locate some of the children. I chalk that up to bureaucracy. The problem is that the people coming over either just bring the kids over, or they don’t have documentation of themselves or the kids. The system is designed to make everyone give up and just let the parents and kids go into the US with a notice to appear that never happens.The whole intent of the caravan was to make it a mess and overwhelm the system.

    • Constance says:

      I agree, if my kids weren’t with me I would not stop until I tracked them down. I think these kids were with traffickers who abandon them. They may be orphans or kidnaped.

    • Somebody says:

      The kids most likely were being trafficked. Some kids are used just to cross the border over and over again, border agents have said that. I assume narrowing entry points and detaining them allowed agents to take notice or maybe this is the first administration that cares. Border patrol has also been doing DNA test when they suspect it is a child being trafficked.

      There could be some within the 525 kids who were genuinely separated from their parent. If their legit father is an MS13 gang member with outstanding warrants type thing.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Apparently the parents don’t want those kids.
      Where and who are the parents?? 😯

      • Gram Krakka says:

        Some parents are in Central Americas and Mexico. They don’t want their kids returned to their native born country.

    • Woke Lola says:

      Not necessarily. The stories could be as individual as the people. Maybe the parents were deported rather quickly, before they could claim their children. Maybe they were unable to navigate the system from the outside. Maybe some went on the run from ICE, and hoped their child would be cared for in our well-known foster care system. Maybe some were truly coyotes or posers or sex traffickers, and of course they lit out fleeing a criminal investigation. Maybe they died. There are many reasons this small amount of children may not be reunited with their families, and they don’t all equate to guilt of criminal activity.

      That said, the conversation we need to have in child welfare, and one we steadfastly refuse to have, is how the impact of illegal immigration in children looks a lot like neglect and child abuse. We duck on that issue, just as we duck on domestic violence.

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    I agree with this conclusion from the Spectator.

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    Donald Trump Won the Debate

    This is the one they’ll be talking about years from now.

    https://spectator.org/donald-trump-won-the-debate/

  90. Mothy67 says:

    The only liberal/proggie I still communicate regularly with shocked me by referring to ACB as impressive.

  91. Mothy67 says:

    He ran off as I went to get my phone but a squirrel did this. He didn’t flinch when I caught him. I had to go upstairs to get camera and he took off by the time I got back.
    Kind of a treat to wake up to.

      • Gram Krakka says:

        My dear departed husband always wanted to put a capacitor in a pumpkin to shock the porch thieving kids, I said let’s not do that.
        He did like to sit by our pool and shoot rabbits in the eye with his bb gun as they tried to tear open the ears of corn in his garden about 100 feet away. He then skinned out the squirrels and ate them. He also liked to go frog gigging in ponds and loved fried frog legs. Not my cup of tea but to each his own I guess.

    • Miranda says:

      Why I don’t bother about pumpkins. I’ve had deer come up the steps to eat plants before.

    • lyn5 says:

      Wow–the squirrel made a heart!

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    This is sad.

    • 1539days says:

      Either that or Santa + 100 screaming Karens telling the store everyone’s gonna die.

      • elliesmom says:

        Carson, Pirie, Scott in Chicagoland used to have a talking Christmas tree. Kids walked up to the tree and told it what they wanted for Christmas. There was a camera inside the tree, and someone in another room monitoring it had a conversation with the kids. It was great for little kids who were afraid of Santa, and no one had to sit on anyone’s lap. There weren’t any lines. You just talked to it when you walked by. My daughter was 3 when we discovered it. The only downside was she was very disappointed when the tree at home refused to talk to her. When I just looked it up, I saw Carson’s is no more, but the tree idea might have worked well in a pandemic.

        • lateblum says:

          Losing Carson, Pirie, Scott was almost as big as losing. Marshall Field’s. I still have some clothes that I bought at Carson’s. They used to have really good quality clothes at really affordable prices. Their Chicago loop building – a mere one block from the original Marshall Field’s store, was designed by Louis Sullivan and the facade remains; it is beautiful. Sadly, it now houses a Target store. But it could’ve been worse. It could’ve housed the largest Dollar Store in the world. Carson’s had branches all over the Chicago suburbs. It was sad to see them close a few at a time. I think the ones near me were the last to go. By the time Carson’s closed, the quality of the clothes had declined considerably, so the loss was not as great as it might’ve been. Carson’s was part of the Bonwit Teller, Bon-Ton family of stores. That group declared bankruptcy several years ago.
          I never knew about the talking Christmas tree. What a nice idea.

          • elliesmom says:

            Carson was one of the anchor stores at a smaller mall in Mount Prospect. I say “smaller mall”, but every mall near us was larger than the biggest mall we had left behind. It was an easy drive for me, although not the closest, when I needed a warm place to go for a walk. I had a several malls to choose from, but the one in Mount Prospect was very kid friendly. I don’t know if the other Carson stores had the tree, too. Many, many years later my son was headed to the Chicago area on a business trip. He was booked into a hotel in Schaumberg. He’s a real mall rat, and I sent him to the Woodfield Mall where he spent an evening on the ice rink there.

            Until I went to the Mall of America in Minneapolis, the Chicago area malls were the largest I had ever seen. When we went into the city, we often made a stop at Marshall Fields, especially at Christmas, but most of the big stores had siblings in the burbs so city trips were more likely to be for museums and the zoo. We lived out near the Palwaukee Airport in the northwest burbs. When I was a little girl myself, it was Jordan Marsh in Boston that had Santa’s Enchanted Village, which took over a whole floor of the store. It was eventually moved to one of the suburban malls, but it didn’t have the same magic running down the center of the mall. Or maybe I just grew up. 😉

          • lateblum says:

            I love my magical memories from childhood. Some of them are from my own childhood and some from my children’s childhoods. Regardless, they haven’t lost their magic. ❤️ 🎄🎅🏼

  94. lateblum says:

    Here is the very best comment to ever appear on Twitter… in response to ppl arguing about “coyotes” bringing children across the border…

    • lateblum says:

      Sadly, the person to whom Ivan is responding is a Georgia Representative, and has been for 10 yrs. (per a comment on the Twitter)

  95. jadzia1971 says:

    So we are all but locked down again. Bars closed, gyms (which have never had a cluster) closed. 9pm curfew because apparently we are all being grounded. Permission slips needed to go out at night. The most common response I’m seeing from my idiotic countrymen? Blaming the people for not being compliant enough with the LAST set of regulations and eagerly ratting them out to the mayor, the prefecture…. ugh.

    Still keeping my fingers crossed for next week’s trip. Internal travel is still allowed–at this point. Wouldn’t it be nice to get stranded in Mont St. Michel, though?

    • 1539days says:

      Does France have a bill of rights or any statement on human freedom?

      • jadzia1971 says:

        Allegedly. And we also allegedly have the European human rights protections. But who will enforce? Nobody. And can the people take back their rights? Nope, we were disarmed long ago.

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    Last night I started to head to bed after the debates. I did my nightly chores, but then I decided to watch some of the after party. About 1 am I finally headed to bed. I let Ellie out one more time, but Hank was so soundly asleep I nearly took his pulse. I usually get up before 6 am, but it was 8 before I woke up this morning. Hank has the “stand in front of the door when you need to go out” thing down. He wasn’t used to that so an old dog learned a new trick. But he hasn’t mastered “go get someone to let you out” yet. I don’t know how long the poor old man waited for me to come, but eventually he couldn’t wait, and he peed on the floor. Now of all of the places he could have chosen, that’s, perhaps, the easiest for me to clean up. It’s stone tile and I have a steam mop.

    Dogs seldom soil where they sleep, but they don’t always have the same inhibitions about where other creatures sleep. Poor Hank chose Ellie’s “sunny spot” to leave his puddle. She was more than a little bit put out. Now everytime Hank approaches the door she growls at him and chases him away. She isn’t very forgiving, and she holds a grudge. I know because I have transgressed in the past. Not by peeing in her spot, but by doing other unforgivable things. Like eating the last meatball. I think Hank should be glad this is not the only door in the house.

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    • lateblum says:

      I can’t believe I actually sat through that. It’s been some time now, since I’ve been able to listen to Ms Amanpour. She is a big a shill for thenDemocrats and now Biden as there ever has been. Good for Liz for not just sitting back and taking that bs from Christiane.

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    Is it terrible that every time Biden gets up to make a speech I turn the channel?

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    I got loads of junk for Halloween. I get the big bars for kids I can sort of know. I get chocolate covered pretzels from high end chocoleteer for those that live on my block. Sarris choc pretzels are the bomb. I live at the bottom of a hill. I can get 50 kids or ten, but I always get the neighbors. Some towns are being wishy washy even yet. If they cancel trick or treat we will just get more.
    I think I have serious issues. I bought close to 500 treats. One box of 40full sized Almond Joys I hid. I want them. What is wrong with my brain. I am an adult who pays his bills. I can buy Almond Joy for myself. I never do. I hid it like a case of forty that I want. I am not well. whynot just buy myself some Joy? It will taste better from being hidden. Crazy?
    I used the app at Sam’s Club. You only have to deal with the door lady as u leave. It is so easy to over spend with app. I spent close to 200 on junk. I got tons of chips. They have these yuuuuge boxes of Doritos. I anticipate about 50 kids, but I always have over bought– however not by 450. Oh well Shay will have chips for a year. Meanwhile I hid a 36 case of Almond Joy under the porch cushions.

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