Monday Open Thread

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  1. DeniseVB says:

    The original Never Forget Day.

  2. Dora says:

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  4. DeniseVB says:

    Aren’t we over this activist athletebull sh*t yet ? Nobody cares or watches when millionaires act oppressed.

    • Somebody says:

      I don’t know Denise, I think it fits with 2020. It personifies how out of touch the media and the athletes are. It personifies the national suicide path so many in this nation are hell bent on following. These morons have hurt their bottom line by offending half or more of their fan base. It lays bare the whole SJW movement in a variety of ways. These athletes don’t have struggles with the police, they shouldn’t be the face of inequality, how rich, literally and figuratively! In many ways these athletes are owned and controlled by white men and apparently Chinese men too! Oh the irony!

      It lays bare whom TPTB deemed “essential” and what issues those “essential people” chose to champion while we all lost our rights. It brings back to the forefront the different way protests for different causes were viewed and handled, by “our betters”. That dichotomy has existed for quite awhile in this country, but in 2020 it was obvious to the deaf, dumb and blind. OK, not all of them….see MSM🤣🤣

      Shorter version…’s 2020

    • driguana says:

      Haven’t watched a pro sports event now in almost 2 years…and do NOT miss it…still hoping college sports can stay above this…

    • Cisco says:

      And in Chicago over 700 murders.
      Victim and offenders commonality?
      Do you really have to ask?

    • 1539days says:

      Typical, since Sports Illustrated also has trans women in their Swimsuit edition.

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  6. DeniseVB says:

    Third party chit-chat is getting serious when you have the GOPe shoot it down as stupid because it will divide Republicans to the point there will never be another elected GOP again….or something. It’s also the reason they had to destroy the Tea Party because it was putting people and country before party. It’s how duopoly’s control us, they know what’s best, right?

    • driguana says:

      The time has come! There are literally millions of us who are Fierce Independents, moderates, slightly left or slightly right, who have been pushing this for some time now. I find it interesting that most everyone I know…who still talks to me…has some liberal points of view (especially on social issues), some conservative leanings (especially on financial issues) and tons of moderate perspectives…and now for almost 30 years, we have not been duly represented by a political party…until The Don came along..

      • Somebody says:

        Agreed 👍 Most of us here did that test a few years ago and we were all really close in score on the spectrum. Most of us were in the middle or just to the left or right of the middle. I remember Anthony and I had the exact same score barely to the right of center. Klown scored a point or two to the right of us, which made me laugh.

        Different backgrounds, grew up in different parts of the country. My scores as a southern republican woman tightly correlated with a gay man in NYC and an attorney in CA. It proves your point though that no matter where in the country or our personal backgrounds, the vast majority of the nation’s views are very centrist. Our national views are in a tight spectrum barely to the left or right of middle. Because of that there is every reason to believe we could as a whole work out our most pressing issues. Unfortunately those that supposedly represent in fact don’t represent us. They instead cater to the extremes and their pay masters and their views are quite often in conflict with we the people.

        • driguana says:

          Yes, very interesting that we have been “shunned” for so many years…I fondly remember first coming to The Crawdad Hole some time back, probably a couple of years ago, when I posted a comment on River Daughter’s page about the importance of independent moderates to the future of our country…and they pounded me…RD especially…I left forever…y’all are a true blessing…sorry I have been so infrequent recently…hard at work finishing up projects…

    • Constance says:

      I love this symbol of the red white and blue lion. I can just see the SJW criticism. Lions aren’t North American animals, they are carnivores and it is always an adult male lion that is shown. I feel like the lion could be an international symbol of freedom which is much needed because a lot of people and countries have been ruined by Dominion type corrupt voting systems and they need to have hope to move to freedom.

      • DeniseVB says:

        They didn’t have problems with the non-native elephant 😉 We tried the native feminist approved Puma once upon a time, fell flat with a thud 🙂

        • driguana says:

          There’s always Wiley Coyote!!

        • elliesmom says:

          I’ve been thinking about PUMA a bit lately. From a sort of outsider looking in perspective, what I saw was a lot of people angry enough with the Democrats to declare their independence from the party, but not willing to cast a real vote long term for anyone who isn’t a Democrat. A few of them may have cast a protest vote for John McCain in that election, but there weren’t enough of them to take the election from the Democrats, and from that election on, they’ve been as solidly for the Democrats as they were before 2008. There may have been a few PUMAs who left the party and never went back, but they weren’t a large group. Other than the people here, where are the PUMAs today? Are any of them out and about Trump supporters? What blogs, except maybe this one and MOTUS, started by the PUMAs exist today where the Democrats are not fully supported? I occasionally do a blogaround to check up on “old friends”. What I see are shuttered blogs or all out shills for the Democrats.

        • Constance says:

          I love coyote’s, they moved into my neighborhood and the rat problem disappeared. They are everywhere, carnivores, industrious and hard working and would make a good symbol. But the lion is fine with me. It is odd that I accepted the elephant without question. I guess because I have seen so many of them around and not always in cages. I have seen very few lions and none out of cages.

  7. Dora says:

    This is terrible. How is it allowed?

  8. votermom says:

    thanks for the new thread, Denise!

  9. DeniseVB says:

    “Reportedly” ? LOL, I hope it’s true, if necessary.

    • Somebody says:

      I hope it’s true too. So many people keep saying go to DC and crash Biden’s inauguration. I say, 👎. The media will claim everyone is there to adore Biden. I tell people go to Florida and be a massive welcome party there so there can be zero confusion about who drew the crowd. Besides the weather in Florida is much better.

      A rally is an even better idea! Hopefully there won’t be a Biden inauguration and therefore no Florida Trump rally. However, if there is I really hope I am recovered from surgery enough and not in chemo so I can attend. I’d prefer to welcome POTUS and FLOTUS home in January 2025, but if it is January 2021 then I really hope I’m well enough to be there.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I don’t see how Joe could put up with an inauguration schedule, which starts early in the morning and lasts til the wee hours of the next day after the obligatory visits to all the Balls with a dance with FLOTUS. If it gets to that point, I’m expecting a Covid Cancellation because not only is the Mall packed, but transportation into the city is jam packed too. Ooooh Cooties Joe, Cooties that kept you in your basement for a year ?

        I’m still hoping for the best and preparing for the worst if JoeJoe Binks wins the steal. Right now the Bots want to forbid the Trumps being flown HOME on AF 1, which is a tradition. That Rat Bastard Obama and his Cow had AF 1 fly them all the way to Palm Springs to catch a private plane to start a month long tropical vacation on a private island which was nowhere near Southern California. Their last FU to America. Honestly, I always thought, as much as I love them, Marine One and AF 1 were a step down from TRUMP logo private aircraft 😀 It wouldn’t surprise me if he declined his cursory trip home in AF1 to officially bring TRUMP home.

        Surgery? What did I miss….again? Last was insurance wars over coverage for diagnostic tests? ❤

        • Somebody says:

          I’m still in a battle there is a doctor to doctor pow wow today. That was supposed to happen last week, but the insurance company doctor called hours after time set, 30 minutes after everyone left surgeon’s office😡

          With or without imaging I’m headed for surgery. The cancer has to be removed. The imaging is to try and determine the depth and go into surgery with some idea of margins needed. The surgeon prefers to go in knowing that and not fly by the seat of his pants so to speak. Initially I was supposed to have surgery next week, now I’m not sure.

          I agree with you, I think the house, plane, etc., was a step down for the Trumps. I also don’t think he gives a rat’s ass about being flown home on AF1. It’s not like he has to beg for a charter he owns a 757🙄 The left are petty, shitty losers and winners. They are just vile, nasty people that are perpetually angry.

          • dm says:

            I’m so sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I must have missed your original post. Don’t know what type you are battling, but it is beatable. I’m 8 years post bilateral mastectomy and as far as I know, it’s all good. Wishing the best of care, luck and good vibes your way!

          • swanspirit says:

            Sending you quick and thorough surgery, and even faster healing! Hugs!

          • votermom says:

            Prayers for the surgery, Somebody, and many hugs

          • lateblum says:

            I’m saying prayers are that you have a successful surgery with easy follow up and recovery. 💕

    • driguana says:

      Personally, I am hoping that this whole house of cards is about to collapse…it’s so disgusting and deep.

    • elliesmom says:

      If there is a Biden inauguration, I hope all of Trump’s supporters stay away. The Democrats have all of their “normal” people too afraid to leave their houses so the only people who will show up are Antifa and BLM. Let Biden and Harris see who they support. Those groups wouldn’t know how to have a positive celebration if someone posted a DYI video on a jumbotron for them to follow step by step.

      • lateblum says:

        What I heard on the (radio) news this morning was that Biden said the inauguration would be more like the virtual convention earlier in the year. So the Dems may already know who and what. BLM and Antifa are.

  10. driguana says:

    Really enjoying James Howard Kunstler’s posts these days on Clusterfuck Nation…he’s come around a long way this past year…this was from last week and I’ll post his Monday one later today…a very good read…

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    • Constance says:

      I sure hope so. Too many of these Democrat coups have left us hanging by a thread. We need some public hangings for treason. And we need them now. It’s not enough to lock these conspirators in prison since eventually some idiot Lib will come along and let them out.

  12. driguana says:

    Here’s James Kunstler’s new post this morning…absolutely brilliant…

  13. DeniseVB says:

  14. foxyladi14 says:

    If we lose the senate, here is what we can expect to happen:

  15. foxyladi14 says:

    New website created by Sidney Powell & Lin Wood.

    Suggest to go and sign up. I did.

  16. DeniseVB says:

    Dipsh*t Bezerkely political professor doesn’t know there are two AF 1 planes.

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  18. Dora says:

    Elections Undecided by Midnight are Void & Preempted by Federal Law – Foster v Love (1997; 9-0 Decision)

  19. Somebody says:

    A change of pace. My brother was diagnosed yesterday with covid. 😟 He had barely recovered from his emergency appendectomy election night (he voted and then went to ER). His appendix was about to burst and he had some residual infection that kept him in hospital longer, now this☹ 2020 sucks.

    So far he seems to be doing OK. I left envelopes full of pills on his porch for him yesterday evening. I also printed out the Eastern Virginia Medical School protocol for him to follow with said pills in envelopes.

    He started with a fever Saturday afternoon. He went to a testing center was given a rapid test which was positive and a deep nasal swab was taken for confirmation. That test came back yesterday afternoon positive.

    So far the fever and associated fever symptoms have been his biggest issue. No matter what he threw at the fever Saturday and most of the day Sunday he couldn’t break it. It finally broke about midnight, hopefully some of what I took him helped. Since fever broke he has sinus issues similar to a mild cold and a hacking cough, again similar to a mild cold.

    Hopefully this is the worst of it for him, but no matter what he’s under quarantine.

    • Ann says:

      Good luck to him.

      My father was diagnosed with covid last week. He got it from one of the workers in his nursing home. The nursing home has been locked down to F&F for a month (those F&F had to be tested for covid and be negative before they could visit) so they know it was a worker, and they all wear masks.

      Several people in the nursing home have died. He appears to be holding his own (we have no idea how he is actually doing because he cannot communicate, and no one can visit him).

      There is no way to prevent this from spreading via masks or lockdowns, and all those measures are doing are creating additional economic problems, sickness, death, and addictions. Here’s hoping the vaccine works.

      • lyn5 says:

        Sending you and your father a cosmic hug. ❤

      • votermom says:

        Prayers for Somebody’s brother and for Ann’s dad
        May they heal quickly and fully

      • Anthony says:

        ❤🙏 All my best wishes for his good health and your comfort

      • swanspirit says:

        Sending your father strength and healing!

      • Somebody says:

        Oh my goodness Ann, I pray your father recovers quickly. 🙏

        My brother is 50 and in good health, no co-morbidities, I assume he’ll recover just fine. My chief concern is that my brother was around my two sisters, had dinner at one’s house the day before he became sick. Then my two sisters have been around my mother🥺 Both sisters are on a prophylaxis protocol and so far neither has had any symptoms thank goodness.

        My sisters have appointments to be tested Wednesday morning. Date chosen based on exposure window. My brother went to a private testing lab today and had a 3rd covid test he had to pay out of pocket for. This was his second deep nasal swab. They just called his test was positive, again. He can’t sit still, he’s likely to schedule testing daily even if he has to drive all over to hit different test sites🙄 So far he really seems to be doing fine and I hope it stays that way.

        • lateblum says:

          Gee Somebody. I’m really stunned by this news of your brother’s diagnosis. I hope he’ll be through this and has no after effects.
          What about your sisters and your mother? You mention a prophylaxis protocol. What is it? I can’t believe there is so much available out East, but I haven’t heard of any prophylaxis protocol here. smh.
          Sending even more prayers your way.

      • lateblum says:

        Ann, all good thoughts going to your father. My daughter’s nursing home was never really open to F&F. But they are closed again to everyone due to a staff testing positive last week. They are testing everyone twice/week right now. I don’t know how long they are going to do this; they are looking forward to the vaccine. I hope your father recovers well.

    • lyn5 says:

      Hope your brother kicks covid’s ass.

    • Miranda says:

      Best of luck to you, Ann, and your families.

    • Anthony says:

      I’m gonna have to cone down there and straighten shit out

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  21. Dora says:

    NY Restaurants Will Shut Down If Hospitalizations Don’t Stabilize

    Gov. Andrew Cuomo said drastic new limits will be in store for New York businesses if coronavirus hospitalization rates worsen.

    • Ann says:

      From that article:

      * Statewide positive test rate with micro-clusters: 4.79 percent
      * Positive test rate in micro-clusters: 6.57 percent
      * Statewide deaths: 80
      * Statewide hospitalizations: 4,602 (+160)
      * Statewide intensive care unit: 872 (+22)
      * Statewide intubations: 477 (+13)

      From this article in March:

      The state has about 53,000 hospital beds, including about 3,200 ICU beds.

      BTW, NYS is double counting a lot of tests. If I took a test today in my county and found out I was positive and then was retested tomorrow and that positive was confirmed, that would be 1 positive (because I am one person). NYS would count it as 2 positives.

      My future DIL has been working in the covid ward at the largest local hospital. They have a lot of beds full but never have had to turn other wings (which was the original plan in March/April) into covid wings.

  22. lyn5 says:

    • swanspirit says:

      I agree with het, on everything she said, but the part about not wanting people to die. I think the Chinese cooties are part of the war. Inadvertent, or deliberate, the result is the same. The Chinese have no problem eliminating the opposition, by whatever means necessary.

  23. lyn5 says:

    Epoch Times

    Sidney Powell to Appeal Dismissal of Georgia Lawsuit
    By Ivan Pentchoukov

    The legal team led by former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell will appeal the dismissal of the election lawsuit tossed by a federal judge on Monday.

    Powell told The Epoch Times in an email that they “will proceed as fast as possible to the Supreme Court.”

    U.S. District Court Judge Timothy Batten dismissed Powell’s lawsuit on Dec. 7, opining that the plaintiffs have no standing to sue, should have brought the lawsuit to a state court, and had filed the case too late.

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  26. foxyladi14 says:


    Stand up and be heard!

    Also, the DC rally is on Saturday. Make plans to attend if you can! This is it!

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  28. Dora says:

    Mark your calendars.


    HGTV’s White House Christmas 2020 Airing December 13

    HGTV’s annual White House Christmas special, narrated this year by HGTV’s Alison Victoria, showcases the 2020 holiday decorations at 1600 Pensylvania Avenue — as well as highlights from the home’s holiday transformations over the past decade.

    • lateblum says:

      Thanks, Dora. I truly had never heard of the WH Christmas on HGTV. It sounds interesting. I’ll look for it on the 13th.

  29. John Denney says:

    In other news, I made my DIL happy by cleaning up, fixing, & oiling the music box mechanism in her family heirloom jewelry box.
    She had thought it dated from the 1940s, but the melody is the theme song from the 1970 movie, “Love Story”, for which the composer won an Academy Award in 1971.
    I had already been suspicious of the 1940s date because the mechanism contains a white (nylon?) plastic worm gear. All the rest was cast iron, steel, & brass which could have been 1940s, except the brand stamped on the mainspring housing was Fuji, with a stylized 16th note between the “u” & “j”. I doubt we were importing Japanese music box mechanisms in the 1940s.

    • Anthony says:

      The box itself could be from the 40s but the music box could’ve replaced the original. I’ve done that to interesting things I’ve found in the old antique marts (closed a few years ago dammit)

      • John Denney says:

        Good thought. Thanks!

        I’ve been fascinated with how things work since a little kid. I’ve worked on mechanical things from clocks to musical instruments to motorcycles to auto engines & transmissions, and electronics & computers, hardware & software. Now I have a Sherline lathe & mill so I can make small metal parts. Made a 40 tooth clock gear to replace a broken one earlier this year to fix a friend’s family heirloom 1930s clock. Impressed myself with that one, my first ever attempt at making a gear, and it worked perfectly. 🙂

        Good to know you’ve got some mechanical chops, too. 🙂

        • Anthony says:

          Started out taking the toaster apart and putting it back together when I was 9. My mom had a fit. Greatest accomplishment was buying a 67 GTO with a blown engine from the junkyard when I was 17 and rebuilding the original 389 into a 440 that was like a rocket

        • 1539days says:

          You ever watch those YouTube restoration videos where they make screws and bolts on a metal lathe from stock material? Very expensive and time consuming but fascinating to watch.

          • John Denney says:

            I’ve made screws. 🙂

            A project on my list is to make a 3/8-28 tap & die set so I can make custom fitting for my air compressor. Can’t find ’em for sale anywhere.

  30. votermom says:

    • 1539days says:

      Lockdowns are a good example of how people don’t understand statistics. If you lock down at the peak of a surge, the lockdown doesn’t cause it to lower, the fact that it’s a PEAK means it will go down if they do nothing. California never really let up on restrictions and their rates were as bad as anyone else.

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  32. lyn5 says:

    amazon prime members can get a free 7-day trial of Cinemax and watch The Hunt for free! I wanted to watch it again, because it uplifted my spirits the first time I watched it.

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  34. Dora says:

    Burning Masks!

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