Tuesday Open Thread

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  1. swanspirit says:

    Those flowers are absolutely gorgeous!

  2. Dora says:

    Beautiful flowers Denise. You are outdoing yourself by the day. 🙂

  3. Dora says:

    You tell ’em ladies!

    • Anthony says:

      Personally I’d rather see him be held accountable for the nursing home murders. It galls me that those crimes are being eclipsed by allegations of sexual impropriety. Think about it – it’s a typical Democrat smear tactic (see: Brett Kavanagh.)

      My gut is telling me that the Dems have a ‘replacement’ in the wings that is so #woke that they’ll make AOC look like Robert Byrd circa 1940. Especially since AOC and HRC have been so vocal about this.

      If his “MeToo” allegations succeed as the issue to remove him, his penalty would be much more lenient than whatever would shake out of the nursing home murders, and countless deaths will never be avenged.

      • Somebody says:

        I agree with your suspicion, in fact when Hillary piped in I wondered if the Governor’s mansion is her consolation prize.

      • Mothy67 says:

        With cuomo going down for crude behavior (far tamer than what xiden was accused ) the intentional murders of thousands will be swept under the rug. The other guvs, also guilty, must be praying he accepts pervert tag. I would lay money on this being intentional and coordinated. The senior numbers helped in creating the panic.

      • jeffhas says:

        They have known about his MeToo moments for a LOOOOONG time. They are just pulling them out now to deflect from the far more heinous Nursing Home tragedy that will be hung around all Dems’ handling of KungFlu.

        You are correct that this is just a smokescreen.

        My condolences to you… let’s hope this ends all Cuomos moving forward, that would almost be something worthy of the martyrdom….

        and Fredo is still the weaker brother.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        The one making the complaints’ gives off very strong “I have been coached to the max and promised a high paying fluffy position after the dust settles” vibes.

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  5. DeniseVB says:

    Message sent ? LOL !

  6. elliesmom says:

    I’m a great proponent of teaching things like physics “conceptually”, meaning teaching people what happens and why it happens without worrying so much about how much. The reason I think this works is because the vast majority of people are never going to have to figure out “how much”, and focusing on it keeps a lot of people from learning the what, why, and how. That makes them make poor decisions when knowing what and how are critical. Knowing that slamming on your brakes on a slippery road might send your car into a spin is important. Understanding why can be fun. Calculating the angular momentum of the spinning car is important to the person designing the car. Not you? Then not important for most people to be able to do.

    But when it comes to grade school math, the “how much” is critical. While I think the idea of understanding the concepts behind the calculations is a good one, I have never suggested we toss out teaching kids how to do the calculations. Kids need to be able to “do math”. Many generations have succeeded without having “number sense”, but it’s very hard to succeed at the lowest level jobs, make dinner, or pay your bills if you can’t “get the right answer”. Suggesting we let black kids off the hook from being accountable for the accounting is the most racist thing I’ve ever heard in school, and that includes working with a teacher who called the black kids “Jamochas”.

    This is article that got me angry this morning-

  7. Mothy67 says:

    I have been cut off from many college friends going back to 2008. My no likey bho could mean only one thing and that was I was raycist. They grew up in the mainline and Cherry Hill. I grew up in a town split 50/50. Crack hadn’t hit there yet. Most people were in the same economic bracket. There were tons of differences. Black people sat on the front porch and we sat on our back. Being Irish Catholic was often the worst thing you could be. We threw around all the disparaging words. Nobody died over a name. Ya think I never heard faggot frankenstein.
    This whole obsession with the iniquities ofvthe past strikes me as a new oppression. Potential is being limited because of deplorable things that took place long before you were born. Reminds me of friends who had shitty parents and a rough start in life. Some entered therapy and all they did was live in the past. Never get drunk with someone in therapy. I know for some it can help, but you have to look forward while looking backwards. The blm riots. Elitist crackers saying stealing a tv was copecetic cause Orange Man said something you did not hear about rapists coming across the border illegally ( the whole basis for Trump is a nazi). How does that help any of those rioters down the road? You can do something you know is wrong now because it is politically expedient for dimocrats. How can they hold you accountable later for similar actions. My former friends think black people are not equiped. They won’t admit it, but they relish feeling benevolent. Note when blm was heading to the residential part of Beverly Hills they were turned back.

    • elliesmom says:

      I grew up in a small farming town. In the four years I was in high school there was one black student across all 7 years of students I shared the school with. Our minority students were Wampanoags. They were proud of their heritage- just like the kids whose fathers were members of the Sons of Italy. When I was at the University for my teaching certificate, one of the profs suggested my background wouldn’t prepare me for teaching inner city kids, and he scheduled me in to student teach in an integrated large city high school. Elliesdad had gone to high school in New Haven during the 60s race riots. He had moved there from Pennsylvania Dutch country, and he spent his 4 years in high school scared shitless half the time. When I told him where I was going to teach, he tried to talk me out of it.

      What I found was not a place I had to be afraid to be, but it made me sad. While there were teachers and students I would describe as racist, the biggest racism came from the dogooders who were guilty of “the soft bigotry of low expectations”. While my prof thought never having exprienced what he called a “diverse” school population would mean there was a gaping hole in my education, he was wrong about what “diversity” means. To him it just meant having some black kids in my class. White kids, Native Americans, farm kids, kids whose fathers worked at the cotton gin, the doctor’s daughter, the ministers’ families, and the lawyer’s obnoxious son all had to get along when I was in school because there weren’t enough of any one group to take over. No one treated the kids as not being able to be what we wanted to be because of who our family was. The lawyer’s son became a farmer. The farm kids turned out to be professionals. The black girl became a professor at Tufts.

      I walked into the “diverse” school to teach never doubting any of the kids could be anything they set their mind to because nobody had ever taught me kids can’t. Helplessness is learned, and it might be the hardest thing there is to unlearn. If you tell kids they can’t do something often enough, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I’m so really tired of excusing people because “they mean well”. I no longer believe the “dogooders” have good intentions. Their intent is to keep people in “their place”.

      • lateblum says:

        My experience r’t teaching in Chicago’s inner city was similar, em. I never expected less of anyone because of their race. Of course, everyone was the same, so there was no real diversity in the class – except for the teacher (me) who was white. I used to have parents call me or send messages to me about how much their kids had learned and how much they looked forward to school because they were finally being “actually taught something”.
        The “low expectations” were far more evident in the black teachers in the same school. I think they were disappointed that when my fourth graders moved into fifth grade, the teachers had to actually work for a living.
        And btw, my husband was also opposed to my teaching in the “ghetto” as he called it. His family had moved repeatedly when color began moving into whatever neighborhoods they were living. He had some negative thoughts on integration and diversity – although it wasn’t referred to as “diversity” at the time.

        Gotta go. Hopefully I’ll be back later to finish my thoughts. But the idea that helplessness is learned/taught is something I have seen. Unlearning it is freeing, but also makes the person bear greater responsibility and can be quite frightening.

      • John Denney says:

        My mantra for success applies to all regardless of age, gender, race, or even “disability”.

        1) Can-do attitude
        You can’t succeed unless you keep trying.

        2) Diligence
        What? You think a slacker is going to prosper?
        Diligence is not necessarily hard work. Hard work is scrubbing dried egg yolk off a plate; diligence is cleaning the plate before the egg dries.
        “A stitch in time saves nine.”

        3) Continuous learning
        You expect ignorance to prosper?
        Yet even a PhD does not convey all knowledge. A very bright close friend of my son’s tried helping out at my house, but struggled to put a liner in the trash can, despite the fact that he’s about to get his PhD in science from Harvard, and was a nationally ranked tri-athlete.

        4) Trustworthiness
        Flakes don’t prosper. Make your word be gold. Don’t violate, but respect & defend others’ Person & Property.

  8. Dora says:

    Israeli Military Officials Warn Biden Against Rejoining Iran Nuke Deal

    Current efforts could ‘ignite a massive nuclear arms race’


    • Constance says:

      Someone needs to Arkancide Kerry. He is just determined to kiss Iran’s ass and everything he does turns to shit. Some of these very destructive Dems just don’t retire and seem to be imortal.

  9. lateblum says:

    Denise, the flowers are beautiful! They literally took my breath away! Oh, how I wish they were in my living room. I may just have to go out today and get some flowers. Thank you! 💐🌷💐

    • Somebody says:

      They are beautiful, as were all the others. I ordered flowers for my oldest daughter’s birthday, which is Saturday. I was soo tempted to order some for myself, but refrained.

      Speaking of DD’s birthday, I debated what to send her. She’s avoiding me, just so, so busy, busy🙄 Last I heard from her was the Monday after my surgery. She texted me that her new running shoes had arrived she was going to go out for a run and break them in. She asked if I’d be up for a phone call in about an hour when she returned. I replied, sure, enjoy your run, look forward to hearing from you. Apparently she’s still running, a regular Forest Gump🙄

      I’ve got lots of time on my hands and contemplated a variety of gifts🤭 In the end, I decided to be nice and generous, instead of bitchy. I sent her a lovely floral arrangement and an aerogarden elite so she can grow stuff year round for herself and her guinea pigs. She didn’t inherit my green thumb, but this system seems pretty fool proof. It’s a hydroponic system complete with grow lights. It runs automatically and has a display panel that let’s you know when you need to add water or plant food. She can grow herbs and salad greens for her guinea pigs, which are like her children.

      • Somebody says:

        BTW, I’m not pushing gardening on her. She tried the last two years to have a garden. The first she was too busy and lost interest. Last year gardening was going to be her thing during the pandemic and lockdown. She plunged into it, researched, bought books, spent a lot of time on it…….and lost every single plant🤭 She never harvested a thing😟

        So the interest is there, she just has a brown thumb.🤭

        I considered buying one to tinker with since I won’t have a garden this year. In Florida by late May or early June it’s too hot. So if I was going to have a garden I should have already gotten everything planted😕

      • lateblum says:

        Those are lovely gifts❣️I hope she stops running long enough to call and say “thank you”.

        • Somebody says:

          Oh, I figure she’ll text or call her father to say thanks and then have some bug work emergency and have to get off the phone. She’s avoiding me because she doesn’t know what to say. She sort of pulled into a shell like this when her sister was diagnosed.

          By the way, I got flowers today from my sisters 🥰 They are beautiful. It’s a lovely mixture with huge sunflowers, so bright and cheery.

          • Woke Lola says:

            Awww, that is awesome they sent you flowers. Now aren’t you REALLY glad you didn’t order any for yourself?

            I’m so sorry your daughter is struggling, but moreso that you are. Big hugs, lady. 💜💚🧡

          • lateblum says:

            You know her better than sHe knows herself. My son stayed away from me the first time I was diagnosed with cancer. Almost a year. He’s never said anything and most likely doesn’t recognize that he did it.
            Aren’t your sisters wonderful!!! I bet the flowers brightened you whole day! 💐

  10. Mothy67 says:

    Would a 15 hour an hour minimum wage hurt the poorest?
    Rent, insurance, utility subsidies could/would be lost. Food stamps, school lunches, EIC? internet is 9.99/mo if u have kids that get free or reduced lunch. Just losing comcast would eat up what was gained in working 4 hours.

    • elliesmom says:

      Unskllled labor gets hit because the owner of the business looks for ways to get the same level of productivity from fewer people. It’s not so much losing benefits because the state can raise the limits people can earn and still get aide. It’s that they find themselves unemployed.

      • 1539days says:

        There’s always a balance between hiring skilled or dedicated workers and hiring cheap labor. In order to be cost effective, employers will prefer existing experience over on the job training. They will also be likely to terminate people more quickly for under-performance because recruitment will be cheaper than dealing with a less effective employee.

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  13. helenk3 says:

    If you do not know history, you are bound to repeat it. I heard that most of my life. Now the benedicts going after Dr Suess because years ago he talked about slave trading and interned Japanese in WW2. These things happened in this country. No one today says they were right and good things. But if you do not know history , how do you stop it from happening again. Think about the open war on Trump supporters, if we did not know history, could we be interred soon? If not, why not?
    we are doing such a disservice to future generations in their education and this country could pay a horrible price for that

    • lateblum says:

      Helen, these hpchildr3n think history began on the day of their birth. Not one second earlier. They won’t repeat history. It doesn’t exist.

  14. Mothy67 says:

    Love this young man. Really wish gab would allow you to share like twitter

    • Constance says:

      That is really disgusting. When my kids were in the local Catholic school they decided to bring in “hot lunch” two days a week. They tried a few places and they went with the local 7-eleven for chicken nuggets lunch and Pizza Hut for pizza Friday and Mc Donald’s for cheese burgers. I was amazed that those local franchises could put out 500 school lunches and deliver them hot. So….it’s not that hard to get appropriate food delivered hot. All you do is give them a calorie count so they know what size meal they are delivering.

      • 1539days says:

        I was in a much smaller high school, but we had “McDonald’s Day” once a week where we could buy different items. I still remember I got a cheeseburger and a side salad for $2. You still had to get the school milk unless you brought in soda.

    • 1539days says:

      If those cities weren’t so anti anything Trump did, they could use the “public health” angle to win those cases. I posted a chart showing how the largest COVID “spike” occurred 2 weeks after BLM super spreader events started. The death toll could be hundreds of thousands lower if the police cracked down when the case growth was low.

  15. helenk3 says:

    bid-on and the benedicts do not respect them in the morning


  16. Mothy67 says:

    How long until there is a backlash against all of this straight white male hating? Do none of these women have sons, brothers, fathers?

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  20. Mothy67 says:

    Anyone feel like it’s government by sociology department from a third tier school.

  21. elliesmom says:

    I’m watching a lecture series on post modern philosophy which I will link in the comments, but in the course of one of the lectures, the person lecturing talked about this experiment in conformity. I participated in this experiment when I took a class in adolescent pyschology to extend my teaching certificate to include middle school. Since many of my classmates were still adolescents themselves, I thought the result of the experiment was because the test subjects were still immature, but I was wrong. A lot of adults were more interested in conforming to the group than giving the right answer.

    • elliesmom says:

      I took a philosophy course in 1972 at the College of the Holy Cross, and the prof teaching ii wasn’t sure he was ready to accept modern philosophy yet, and it had been around since the 1500s so post-modern philosophy wasn’t presented in a positive light, either. But post-modern philosophy is supposed to help us understand where the left is coming from, and I’m really trying to understand where they’re coming from so we can make them go away. I found this 4-part lecture series from Stephen Hicks, a Canadian- American philosophy professor doing a lecture series in Australia. He’s good lecturer- few bells and whistles, but he’s pleasant to listen to and has a sense of humor. The whole series is about 6 hours broken down into hour long lectures followed by 30 minute Q&As. The motives behind today’s left became really clear as did why what’s being taught makes sense to them.

    • votermom says:

      “A lot of adults were more interested in conforming to the group than giving the right answer. ”
      I’ve seen versions of this experiment; very depressing how easily people go with group think

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    • lateblum says:

      Those legislators need the votes of their constituents to stay in Albany. I’d bet they heard plenty from voters about this.

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    @ShezZK’s Twitter account is suspended. Grrrrr.

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