Thursday’s Thread

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  1. Swan Spirit says:

    Wow, the flowers and the setting! Inspirational. 💕

    • elliesmom says:

      There are a couple of weeks in May when Ellie and I have to proceed cautiously across the dam. It never happens in the fall so my guess is one or two of the geese have had an early delivery, and they’ve nested in the tall grass on the dam. While most of the geese head further north after a couple of weeks rest here, we always have one or two pairs who raise their goslings here. They reunite with the flock in the fall and head south from here. From the ferocity of that goose, I’d guess she has a nest nearby. The people making the video have also anticipated her behavior, which is another clue she’s protecting something there valuable to her.

    • Woke Lola says:

      Worth it to the end 😂

  2. Dora says:

    In case you weren’t watching. 🙂

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  4. Dora says:

    Kind of describes what we are facing today:


    “When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion–when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing–when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors–when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you–when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice–you may know that your society is doomed.”
    – Ayn Rand

  5. foxyladi14 says:

    The states of Idaho, Mississippi,
    Tennessee & Arkansas,And Florida!
    Have already enacted legislation that Preserves Women’s & Girls’ Sports for .. Females!! 😀

  6. elliesmom says:

    “Another Trail of Tears”

    • lateblum says:

      This is very interesting. More and more my thoughts about being vaccinated seem to be supported by what I read online. I thank you for this article. The comments were reall6 quite frightening.

      • votermom says:

        I’m sure the bp reaction is rare, but … for me personally, how lucky am I with bp issues? Not. At. All.

        • lateblum says:

          I’ve had extremely elevated bp since 1998-ish and only recently has it become close to normal. I’ve been on meds for it since 1999. This article is quite disconcerting. The comments – even moreso.

          • votermom says:

            What meds are you on?
            Do they know what’s causing the hypertension?

          • lateblum says:

            So now I’m on hydrochlorothiazide, metoprolol, and amlodopine. The most recent addition is the metoprolol. My bp shot into the stratosphere in 1999 after I changed jobs and my stress skyrocketed. I thought it (the stressors) couldn’t get worse, but I was wrong. I won’t go into detail, but work, health issues, and then dd#2’s life became more and more into play. The docs are all saying it’s stress related. The only thing no longer in play is work, but then there are financial issues that remain.

          • votermom says:

            Have you ever been screened for adrenal issues or renal artery stenosis?
            Do you get migraines? Do you gave pulsatile tinnitus? if yes to either / both you should read this:

      • votermom says:

        “We report a case series of 9 patients with stage III hypertension documented within minutes of vaccination during the first 30 days, of which 8 were symptomatic. ”

        Someone do the math for me:
        9 cases of Stage III hypertension out of 13296 shots

        • lateblum says:

          Not a great percentage. My concern is the numbers who don’t report. Or whose doctors or emergency personnel don’t report. I would guess it is much higher than what we read about. My friend reported a severe rash at the vaccination site. That was more than2 weeks following her vaccination. Her doctor said not to worry about it, “It sounds like a side effect of the shot”. I’d guess he didn’t report it since he didn’t really even want to see it despite its distance in time from the actual event.

  7. lateblum says:

    This is meant to rival . . . Jeni’s ice cream?

  8. lateblum says:

    At this moment, I’m “watching” Outnumbered on FNC. They ar3 covering an outdoor” briefing on the Democrats’ plans to pack the SC “to restore democracy”. I muted this garbage after finally realizing what was on my tv screen. OMG, I can’t believe ppl voted for this bs. And yet, having been a Democrat for so much of my life, I know they did. In fact, when I had a conversation with my upstairs neighbor (the guy who is friends with bomber Bill Ayers) he made some comment which I can’t recall right now and I said, “You are such a Democrat!” To which he responded, “Yes. I. Am.”
    I said, as he might remember, I was at one time as well, until I realized how corrupt they were and only invested in controlling everything and everybody. He looked absolutely bewildered that I though that was a bad thing.

    • lateblum says:

      Btw, all the voters in MA need to take out Ed Markey. He makes me want to throw bricks at the tv. Hence, the mute button is the best I can do so the tv remains relatively undamaged.

      • elliesmom says:

        Ed Markey has been a representative or a senator from MA since 1973. His former congressional district is the one now represented by Ayanna Pressley. He’ll be there as long as he wants to be.

        • lateblum says:

          Sadly, it is true.

        • lateblum says:

          Wasn’t he there while Barney Frank was in office as well?

          • elliesmom says:

            Yes, Markey was there first, The year Barney left was the same year Markey moved to the Senate. Because Liz Warren was elected to the Senate before Markey moved over, she’s the senior senator, and Markey is the junior, but he has a lot more experience than she has. I’ve met Markey a few times, and that has to gall him.

        • lyn5 says:

          Ayanna also wants 16-year-olds to vote. #ForeverDemocrats

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  9. Dora says:

    Bad day for Long Island. This morning brought news about the fire at Belmont Racetrack and now this.

    Explosion At Old Grumman Plant Rocks LI Neighborhood: PD

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  11. lyn5 says:

    Short thread … h/t Angie

  12. lyn5 says:

    • lyn5 says:

      Response to this:

    • lyn5 says:

      Marcus Redd @guyindelco
      Really? The doctors at Vanderbilt or Emory or UT/MD Anderson or Duke or Tulane are the worst? Really? Compared to whom?

    • 1539days says:

      Completely unsourced comment. Jobs are not the “worst” if the wages are low when the cost of living is reasonable. Someone else pointed out that the teen birth rate is higher, blue states have a higher abortion rate among pregnant teens. Stuff like life expectancy and infant mortality are always manipulated and again, college attendance doesn’t have to be huge if you can get a job that pays a good wage without one.

  13. threewickets says:

    “The heart of rock n roll is in Cleveland” because rock is the greatest mass propaganda tool invented by man since organized religion, “higher” education (pyramid indoctrination), Hollywood fake news, and “professional” sports. Cleveland is John D. Rockefeller’s hometown. He is buried there.

    Integrity is another worthy goal for civilized society and self. It is not a binary choice … integrity or propaganda. The polar opposite of integrity, however, is Tawana Rockefeller’s culture of 24/7 lying. The culture of narcissism.

    • elliesmom says:

      Several of my lefty friends are gun owners. Biden’s EO wasn’t enough to get them angry, but packing the Supreme Court has them up in arms. They think it’s part of the plan to circumvent the 2nd Amendment with the Court’s approval. At some point the Democrats will go too far.

  14. lyn5 says:

    I agree with Don Surber.

    ITEM 2: The Daily Mail reported, “The CDC’s Deputy Director has admitted they have no proof Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine actually causes rare blood clots and revealed one of the main reasons they’ve stopped giving it out is to give them time to talk to doctors about how to treat the condition, as some experts called the decision to suspend the shot an ‘overreaction’ that will stunt the US’s COVID-19 recovery.”

    Democrats panicked because vaccinations would end the lockdown.

    So the CDC shut down a vaccine because 6 out of 7 million people vaccinated had blood clots, which may or may not have been the fault of the vaccine.

    Sometimes I get the feeling the government wants us all dead.

    • 1539days says:

      The J&J vaccine was about to get some of the stragglers to take it because it was one shot and used more conventional vaccine technology. That would be bad for the Bill Gates crowd because they want the sheeple to put whatever poison they they want into their bodies without question. Instead, the Democrats want to start creating situations where waiting for J&J is going to cause the weird RNA vaccines to go bad so they can blame “anti-science” Republican Trumper morons or something.

      I think its too late. What’s probably going to happen is that now young people are getting vaccinated and their relative mobility is going to break the chain of infection. Then new cases drop and new deaths go to almost zero.

  15. lateblum says:

    Well, here we are. Chicago is preparing for another ‘mostly peaceful protest’ now that the body cam video of the shooting of a13yo boy, Adam Toledo, by the CPD.
    It was well after midnight. Adam and a 20-something were in an alley shooting a hand gun (or more). The older guy fled when the police arrived leaving Adam with the gun in the alley. In the end, the cops shot the boy and he died. Now the msm is showing all the preparations the city is making for violence they anticipate will follow. And when it does, they won’t acknowledge their role in setting up the scenario.

    • lateblum says:

      This should get them all the viewership they want until next week when the Chauvin/Floyd trial ends and they can cover even more “peace”

    • Myiq2xu says:

      This is a close one. If you watch multiple angles in slo-mo you can see that the kid tosses the gun just before he is shot. But we are sitting here watching it from the safety of our homes or work cubicles.

      If you were the cop and you got a 4:30 am shots fired call (someone fired 8 shots in rapid succession at a nearby intersection) and you chase the suspects down an alley and the kid steps out from behind a fence and .858 seconds later your weapon fires you might see things differently.

      We know the cop’s gun was loaded. Was it set for single-action or double-action?

      People have been taught for years that you should never rest your finger on the trigger because one little twitch and BANG!. If a gun is loaded, chambered, cocked, and the safety is off, all it takes is a hair’s weight on the trigger to fire. If your adrenaline is pumping it will affect your perception of how much pressure you are applying. When you have multiple people with guns pointed at someone (or each other) it is not unusual for the first shot to “trigger” the others into shooting.

      There is a lag time between the brain giving the order to shoot and the finger obeying. Cops, soldiers, and hunters can all tell you that there is a big difference between firing a gun on a range at a paper target and a real-life situation where you are shooting at a living target. Lots of things go thru your head.

      Last but not least, there is a difference between pointing and aiming. You can point a gun without aiming it, but you cannot aim a gun without pointing it. When you aim a gun you are no longer looking at your target, you are looking at your gun sights.

      Ever write a comment and then notice a typo in that split second between when you decided to hit “post” and when your finger actually hits the enter key?

      While Wild Bill Hickok was the marshal in Abilene he got in a shootout with a saloon owner named Phil Coe. During the shootout, Hickok mistakenly shot and killed his own deputy.

      Shit happens when bullets start flying.

      • lateblum says:

        All of this is clear and true. You cannot write or say anything like this out loud in the city.

        Also, in some videos – the ones that haven’t been edited – I can see the gun in Adam’s hand before he is shot. In other videos the part with the gun in his hand has been (miraculously) erased.
        I want to post the editorial in today’s tribune by its most racially biased writers, Darlene Glanton. My mind exploded while reading it so much that I had to put it down and read it twice more before I felt justified in my anger.
        In my digital edition of the column, the author’s name was omitted. Otherwise I wouldn’t have felt blindsided by what I read.

        There is no mention of the kid having a gun in his hands. Nothing about shooting at cars or being wild or a gang member.
        Nothing other than he was a child of color and that we *all* know the cops are out for blood when it comes to the black and brown people in Chicago.
        I will find a way to post either the link or the column. My blood is still boiling.

        No 13yr/old child should be where this kid was. No 13yr/old should be doing what he is reported to have been doing. No 13yr/old should be shot – either by the cops or by gang members. And I’m not even going into what families do or do not do with/to/for their kids. That would take me days to write.

        • lateblum says:

          Column: When police kill a child like Adam Toledo, all of us bear the shame and the blame

          I mourn for him and all that he lost.
          Every child deserves the opportunity to pass from one phase of life to another. They should be allowed to make all kinds of mistakes and given the chance to learn from them. They should be nurtured, protected, loved and understood.

          They should be children for as long as they can — even though they are imperfect.
          Adam’s life ended last month in an alley in Little Village, a predominantly Mexican-American neighborhood on the West Side. Police officials initially said an officer killed him during an “armed confrontation” around 2:30 a.m.
          We knew from experience, though, that the truth would be more nuanced than they let on. Sometimes they lie. The video is the only thing that tells the real story. Thank goodness Chicago police officers are required to wear body cameras.
          From what we know about Adam, he was typical of many young boys growing up in neighborhoods where violence is a way of life. The seventh grader was supposed to be in bed that night, but according to his mother, he slipped out of the house and into the streets.
          There aren’t many people who didn’t try that in their youth. If you were lucky enough to live in a in a neighborhood where trouble wasn’t always lurking outside, you could slip out and back in again without your parents ever knowing.
          But in neighborhoods like Adam’s, there is too much temptation out there. It can overwhelm a 13-year-old kid, whose adolescent brain isn’t developed enough to fully understand the consequences of his actions.
          Adam did know this, however. He seemed to realize that Blacks and Latinos who don’t do exactly what a police officer says could end up dead.
          So, when Officer Eric Stillman told him to stop running, he stopped.
          When Stillman ordered him to “show me your (expletive) hands,” Adam turned around and raised both hands in the air.
          When Stillman told him to “drop it,” he appears to toss a pistol on the ground.
          The child did everything the officer told him to do, but it couldn’t save him. Stillman raised his firearm and shot him in the chest.

          It’s likely that Adam’s story will become as familiar as that of Tamir Rice, the 12-year-old Cleveland boy who was shot and killed in 2014 by police who mistook his pellet gun for a dangerous weapon.
          Just as they did Tamir, some will try to make Adam into a martyr. There’s nothing wrong with that.
          Modern-day martyrs are symbols of systemic social injustice. Their tragic killing, often by police, becomes the impetus for a movement that unites people behind the common pursuit of justice. In death, they inspire us to fight for change.
          We’re in dire need of change across this country right now. Police are killing too many Black and Latino people. Every day or so, there is a fatal or potentially deadly encounter. This must stop, and each of us has a responsibility.
          The first step is to understand that what happened to Adam that night was not his fault. He is a victim — not just of a police shooting but also of the societal failures that send vulnerable children into the streets in the middle of the night.
          It doesn’t matter that Adam and a 21-year-old man allegedly were firing a weapon in the alley — the incident that brought police there in the first place. What matters is that a child was killed by the very policing institution that is supposed to protect them.
          The officer responsible must be held accountable. So must the young adult who allegedly gave Adam the illegal gun.
          We don’t know much about Adam’s family, except that he has a mother and other relatives who are grieving for him. We assume that she did the best she could raising him, though by society’s standards, it might not have been enough. Still, we have no right to judge.
          Too many children like Adam are victims of their circumstances. By no one’s fault, they weren’t born in a neighborhood where kids inherently are expected to thrive and are given the resources to become the best they can be.
          They live in a place where kids sometimes learn to hustle at an early age to stay alive. They long to fit in somewhere — anywhere. When there is no one to guide them, gangs step in to fill the void.
          They teeter on death, living moment-to-moment in a deadly cycle they cannot reverse. They shoot at boys whose lives parallel theirs until one day, they end up on the receiving end of someone else’s gun. Sometimes that gun belongs to a police officer.
          Some people look at children like Adam and see hopelessness. They don’t realize that there’s a child beneath the tough veneer these kids learn to adorn as soon as they are old enough to walk out the front door alone.
          They see a man-child, much more streetwise and menacing that his young brain can process. But it doesn’t have to be that way.
          In the alley that night, there was a frightened child standing motionless, staring at an officer’s gun, hoping that he had done what he must to stay alive.
          But at that moment, nothing would have been enough.
          It’s our responsibility to figure out how this killing happened — not just what went down in that alley but how this child managed to end up there in the first place. It’s too late for for this child, but that’s what will save other children like him.
          If we are responsible adults, we will commit to doing whatever we can to keep such a travesty from ever happening again. We won’t rest until we come up with the answers and solutions we need.
          When a child is killed, all of us should feel some amount of guilt for our failure. If not guilt, we should at least feel ashamed.

          • lateblum says:

            BTW, from what I’ve read, this kid “slipped out of the house and into the streets.” days earlier and the mother didn’t call to report him missing for more than 72 hours. She literally had no idea where her boy was. Or if she did, she didn’t go out to find him.
            I know it sounds like I’m blaming the mom. I’ve worked with many moms from that neighborhood who had 11, 13,15 yo’s and invested in the safety of their sons. Some had family elsewhere. Others did not. But they tried. I also understand that there is only so much energy you can put into guarding your kid when everything and everybody is tempting him with the perks of gang life. And there are perks when a kid is coming from an impoverished family life.
            I am horrified by what people go through in these situations. Sometimes there are no great choices. But there are better choices that the family as well as the kid could’ve made.
            And I for one will not share the blame for what happened despite Dahleen Glanton’s position.

  16. lyn5 says:

    Mike Pence had emergency heart surgery, and now has a pacemaker. His transformation is complete.

  17. Myiq2xu says:

    Is it just me or does Lori Lightfoot always look like an extra from a Dawn of the Dead movie?

  18. elliesmom says:

    Both the defense and the prosecution have rested their cases in the Chauvin case. The prosecution recalled a witness after the defense rested and after the rebuttal witness the defense might have wanted to call was on a plane headed home. Other than that, the day went well for Chauvin who declined to take the stand. The jury is off until Monday when they will be sequestered. The lawyers will be back in court tomorrow without the jury. If there’s anything left of Minneapolis after this weekend, we can look for more riots after the jury ends its deliberations. The judge told them to pack for a long stay.

  19. Myiq2xu says:

    2020: Blue state cops blamed for the wrongful deaths of black people. Blue states riot.
    2021: Blue state cops blamed for the wrongful deaths of black people. Blue states riot.

    When will the Red states start rioting?

  20. Dora says:

  21. Myiq2xu says:

    That was one angry pussy.

  22. lyn5 says:

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  24. Myiq2xu says:

    I dunno who Scott Sterling is but this video is funny.

  25. lyn5 says:

  26. Jc Collins says:

    My ex does not have a discrete laugh. She still has a baby grand. At a florist she once asked me if I would rather have roses on the piano, or tulips on my organ. Her side gig at the time was overnight DJ at a local Classical music radio station.

  27. Angie says:

  28. Dora says:

    Eight! Yikes!

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