Comparing Roadapples To Orange Man Supporters

These fellas don’t look like any Trump supporters I’ve ever seen

This turd from Neil MacFarquhar in the NY Slimes is some seriously unhappy horseshit:

They robbed an armored car outside a sprawling Seattle shopping mall.

They bombed a synagogue in Boise, Idaho, and within weeks assassinated a Jewish talk radio host in Denver.

Then a month later, they plundered another armored car on a California highway in a spectacular daylight heist that netted more than $3.6 million.

What initially seemed to F.B.I. agents like distant, disparate crimes turned out to be the opening salvos in a war against the federal government by members of a violent extremist group called the Order, who sought to establish a whites-only homeland out West.

Their crime spree played out in 1984. Fast forward to 2021. Federal agents and prosecutors who dismantled the Order see troubling echoes of its threat to democracy in the Capitol riot and the growing extremist activity across the country.

“When you see the country as politically and philosophically divided as it is today, that makes it more likely that somebody could take advantage of these times to bring about another revolutionary concept like the Order,” said Wayne F. Manis, the main F.B.I. agent on the case. “We stopped the Order. We did not stop the ideology.”

Those who tracked the group say the legacy of the Order can be seen in the prominent role that far-right organizations like the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers played in storming the Capitol on Jan. 6.

“Many of the participants of these groups today come from the same sources as the Order,” said Gene Wilson, the lead prosecutor, who went on to become a U.S. magistrate judge in Seattle before switching to private practice. “I think they might be just as committed to totally changing democracy as we know it.”

The men who played central roles in disbanding the Order still consider it the most important case of their lives. Given the Order’s “potential for violence and destruction,” said Mr. Manis, no other domestic group posed a similar threat to the United States.

No other domestic group posed a similar threat to the United States? Seriously?
What about the Ku Klux Klan? The Weathermen? Black Panthers? The Obama administration? Antifa?

The Order collapsed after its charismatic leader, Robert Jay Mathews, died in a fiery shootout with scores of F.B.I. agents on Whidbey Island, Wash., in December 1984. His followers were rounded up in a nationwide manhunt and 23 of them faced trial on racketeering charges involving two murders, robberies that netted more than $4 million, counterfeiting, weapons violations and arson. Sentenced to lengthy terms ranging up to 252 years, most of the core members died in jail.

Far-right groups often express antigovernment ideology or espouse ideas about returning the United States to some imagined, idyllic form of constitutional rule. What made the Order so dangerous was that it set about achieving that goal, killing, robbing and planning spectacular terrorist acts in hopes of toppling the government.

Just before federal agents closed in, its members had been figuring out how to sabotage the power grid in Los Angeles, hoping to incite riots and looting. Men affiliated with the Order had also surveyed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City as a target, which helped to inspire Timothy J. McVeigh to blow it up in April 1995, killing 168 people in the worst homegrown terrorist attack in American history.

Timothy J. McVeigh targeted the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in OKC because he was seeking to avenge The ATF raid on the Branch Davidian complex in Waco and that was where the raid was planned.

I can only think of one group that is committed to totally changing democracy as we know it. That group is the Democrat party.

38 years ago there was a group of white supremacists who called themselves “The Order.” They were dangerous criminals. Ronnie Raygun’s DOJ crushed them like bugs under a boot heel.

I remember when The Order robbed that armored car outside Ukiah. I was living in Santa Rosa back then, and Ukiah is just a little farther up the road. But was The Order a threat to our entire system of government? I kinda doubt it.

But The Order is deader than disco. The author does not provide one-half of one scintilla of evidence to link the Proud Boys and/or the Oath Keepers to The Order.

“Many of the participants of these groups today come from the same sources as the Order,” said Gene Wilson

What sources? The white working class? The PNW??

There was a time when racist white supremacists were openly racist and white supremacist. Today’s racist white supremacists are sneaky bastards who are often explicit in rejecting racist ideas and language that supports white supremacy. You need special training to spot racism and white supremacy. You can, however, rely on the expertise of others. As a public service, the Democrat party employs thousands of infallible racism spotters.

When in doubt, here is an easy-peasy way to tell if someone is a racist:

1. Look for an “R” after their name.

UPDATE:

I just realized I left out an important point. When reading stories like this there are certain red flags to watch for. In this case, the red flag is something that is missing.

How big was The Order? The article only mentions 24 people – 1 dead leader and 23 imprisoned followers.

What about the Proud Boys and the Oathkeepers?

Whenever you see an article about white supremacy written by the Left you won’t see any hard data on how many (or how few) of them there are.

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121 Responses to Comparing Roadapples To Orange Man Supporters

  1. elliesmom says:

    I no longer care if someone calls me a racist. If that’s all they’ve got, they’ve lost. Bill Ayers was allowed to teach teachers. That’s far more dangerous than holding up an armored car, and we’re seeing that now.

  2. DeniseVB says:

    As a “veteran” of a couple of Trump rallies, and dozens of hours of watching rallies on tv or live streams, nope, never saw those guys at any venue. Nor did I feel threatened by a handful of whackdoodles. We’re actually pretty boring and just love our country 😀

  3. Anthony says:

    Pfft… Call me whatevet you want. I’ve screwed more bruthas than FEMA. I know what I am and I know what I’m not.

  4. Mt.Laurel says:

    That look fits right in here in swampland but it definitely skews way to the left. In fact even most the regular guy and gal type Ds cross the street because they know they are cray cray. They did match well to their fellow crabs in cheap red capes trying to claw their way through those extra heavy duty doors during the witch trials for Kavanaugh.

  5. Somebody says:

    I don’t recall ever hearing about the Order. Promise I was stone cold sober in 1984, my son was born in 84.

    • Constance says:

      I never heard of The Order and I live in Seattle and like to take the ferry to Whidbey Island. I don’t think it was a big deal and it was 35 years ago. In 1984 Seattle was run by sane people. Now it is run by a bunch of idiot commie bitches who are installed through rigged elections and the people who are still living here are too stupid to understand “Rigged Elections”. Every time I try to move on someone in my family has an on going emergency requiring me to stay just a little longer.

      • Somebody says:

        Since you live in the PNW and don’t remember it, I don’t feel so bad🤣 While reading this I was trying to think of uprisings in the late 70’s and early 80’s. The only thing that came to my mind were the Miami riots. I remember groups in the early to mid 70’s, like the SLA and BLA but those were leftist groups.

    • John Denney says:

      I immediately recognized the story, having read a book about it many years ago.

      I think it was this one:

    • John Denney says:

      Yeesh.
      In searching for the book, the results included a website that says:
      “Bob Mathews a true martyr of our race Robert Mathews was the founder of the Order and is a Martyr of our cause and movement. Bob Mathews was also a member of the National Alliance and he was murdered by the FBI at his home in Whidbey Island, WA.”

  6. DandyTIger says:

    The Order sounds like a severe case of OCD.

  7. Woke Lola says:

    This is narrative seeding. BLM and Antifa are just an extension of the well-branded MLK, jr, whereas Proud Boys are worse than the Klan and here’s some internet rabbit hole you can fall down so you can seamlessly integrate our bullshit into your psyche. Libs are chumps and weak-ass thinkers. Their masters are brilliant engineers. Burn it down. Again.

  8. Dora says:

    • lyn5 says:

      The Obama shit eaters are replying.

      Beth Garry @beth_garry
      No human is illegal.
      I am eager to welcome millions of undocumented workers to documented status in the US. These are people who’ve proven their drive and resilience to provide for their families through hardships I can’t imagine. Reminds me of my Irish ancestors.

      Michael Christian @Michael31146154
      Human traffickers and other criminal elements would completely agree with you, Beth.
      By the way, your great state is facing a horrible homeless crisis. If you “welcome millions of undocumented workers” where will they stay?
      9:13 AM · May 4, 2021

  9. DeniseVB says:

    Caitlyn Jenner dropped the first campaign ad for governor and I’m still rooting for her 🙂

  10. John Denney says:

    Da Klown bringin’ da troof bombs again. 🙂

  11. Mothy67 says:

    The pic of the xidens and the carters?
    Think about it a professional released that. Someone being paid a healthy sum looked at that and thought “this works”? Is everyone in DC grossly incompetent. A photo op might seem trivial, but what is the level of quality surrounding our elected politicians. Everything so amateur or just plain incompetent or stupid with current dims and deep state. Regularly we discover intelligence agencies screwed up with terrorists or violent idiots. Yet they investigate fake hate crimes. I think most high schoolers could do a better job than half of Washington.

    • Constance says:

      They are a bunch of useless parasites. For Gods sake hire a team of randomly selected 10 year old boys and they could come up with more believable excuses and faked documents.

  12. Anthony says:

    This is the kind of crap that’s getting lots of airtime in NYC

    • lyn5 says:

      I’m sure these rich assholes go grocery shopping every day.

    • Mothy67 says:

      Bwahahaha
      In NY you “have” to pay a consultant to come in and examine your restaurant. The consultants are former health department employees. If you drop them an inspector finds tons of things wrong. It’s cheaper to pay than try and beat trumped up fines. It’s a scam.

    • jeffhas says:

      This ad is been all over California airways for at least 6 months… those people reading those lines have no fucking clue what that company does…. But I bet plenty of politician’s relatives got rich off it.

      I’m waiting for the govt to hand out Scarlett letters for those of us who won’t vax, so we can’t even be let into a building… I mean, we were warned…

      • lateblum says:

        It’s in Illinois as well. There are so many reasons to not even turn on the tv. But if I don’t, I miss the warnings.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        My French class yesterday (4 1/2 hours long!!!) was allll about “everyday heroes” with the message being pounded in over and over to get the vax. WTF am I paying the language institute for again?

        And then today I received a call from my dermatologist.

        Doctor: “Hello, Madame Jadzia?

        Me: “Yes, Doctor!

        Doctor: “I’m calling about your appointment tomorrow. Have you been vaccinated?

        Me [worried about where this is going]: “Um, no….. not yet?

        Doctor: “Well, have you been vaccinated in the past 30 days?

        Me: “Um, no? I just haven’t had the opportunity?

        Doctor: “Oh, good. Because we can’t see recently vaccinated patients because of the reports of (and here I am paraphrasing but I think I understood her, by the way this entire conversation was in French) people’s SKIN PEELING OFF after the vaccination, so we just don’t want to take any chances.

        Me: “ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM HERE, MADAME.”

  13. lyn5 says:

    Oopsie ….

    LOS ANGELES, California, May 3, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — In their latest issue brief, America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) warned how spike proteins resulting from experimental COVID-19 gene therapy vaccines have the capacity to 1.) pass through the “blood-brain barrier” causing neurological damage, 2.) be “shed” by the vaccinated, bringing about sickness in unvaccinated children and adults, and 3.) cause irregular vaginal bleeding in women.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/americas-frontline-doctors-covid-vaccinated-can-shed-spike-protein-harming-unvaccinated

    • elliesmom says:

      One of my young friends (in her twenties) is having issues with the ireggular bleeding. Her doctor says she hopes it will “clear itself up”.

      • votermom says:

        from the vaccine?

        • elliesmom says:

          It started right after she got the vaccine. She’s a town employee and volunteered to work in the town’s vaccination clinic so she was vaccinated in late January. It was significant enough she went to see her doctor right away. Her doctor changed the birth control she was using to see if that was the issue, but it made no difference. No confirmation this is happening because of the vaccine, but the number of women reporting changes is growing so her doctor is monitoring her.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        I really hope I don’t get into a fight with my ex about vaccinating the kids. All the reports of the fertility and other lady problems makes me REALLY not want my daughters (sons, too, but I’m more worried about the girls) to be vaccinated unless and until we know more about the long-term effects.

  14. Angie says:

    • Constance says:

      He would be crazy to call the new platform Trump anything. Give it some neutral freedom loving name. “free rein” “Open thought” I don’t know what but leave the Trump name off of it.

  15. elliesmom says:

    Tucker is on fire tonight. “Bond. James Bond.” 🙂

    • Mothy67 says:

      YeahI ended my boycott because Tucker is must see.

      • elliesmom says:

        I went for weeks without watching Tucker, but the clips I was seeing sucked me back in, but just Tucker. I’m in bed before Gutfeld’s new show.

        • Mothy67 says:

          I made it months. My mom wanted Fox Nation for one of her M day gifts so I figured if I was buying a year it was silly to not watch Tucker. Poor Hannity all he does is rehash Tucker.

          • Somebody says:

            I haven’t watched FNC since the election. I’ve seen clips of Tucker, I miss his show, but I miss Hannity the most. You see 3 to 5 minutes of Hannity puts me straight to sleep. I used to always hit the sack at 9pm, I never made it past his openings 😴😴.

            I haven’t gotten as much sleep since my “break up” with Sean🤣 This post is proof positive, it’s 10:13 here on the east coast and I’m still awake🙄 No matter what time I go to bed, I’m always up at the crack of dawn.

          • elliesmom says:

            At 9 o’clock I start my nightly shutdown. Let the dogs outside, empty the dishwasher, take what I want to eat the next day out of the freezer, etc. I fall asleep pretty much when my head hits a pillow, and I seldom make it to 10. Ellie can go to at least 6 am without needing to go outside, but that’s Hank’s limit. If he wakes me up around 3, we both can get back to sleep, but if it’s closer to 5, then night is over. Too many 4:30 mornings in a row, and there’s a nap in my future. I enjoy seeing the sun come up to start my day. I’ve seen Hannity a few times when I haven’t jumped right up after Tucker.

            When I had Fox Nation for awhile, I liked “Greg Gutfeld and a Smart Person” and the roundtables Bill Bennett hosted. When the pandemic hit, Fox cut back on the number of new shows they made. After a month of not finding anything new I wanted to watch, I discontinued it. I don’t need it to watch the Fox News Channel. Tucker’s new show on FN looks interesting, but nothing he’s made for it so far is “breaking news”. The fight up in Maine over cutting the trees has been going on for decades. Maybe after he gets a few more shows made, I’ll check to see if Bennett’s show is active again.

    • lateblum says:

      Thanks for the heads up, em. I watched the repeat last night. And Tucker was good. But I still fast forwarded it during the episode. I never watched Hannity or Laura. I watch Tucker, Outnumbered and The Five when I think of it.

  16. DeniseVB says:

    Domestic Terrorists AKA White Trump Supporters? Just a hunch. 😉

  17. Dora says:

    I still don’t trust him. Cruz I mean.

    • jeffhas says:

      Yep. Between saying all the right things and trying too hard, I still smell the stench of Phony….

    • Constance says:

      It took me a long time to get over Cruz’s 2016 speech at the Republican convention. But now I think he is better than 90% of politicians in DC. He needs to work on aging gracefully though. Unfortunately he carries weight in his face and neck which is not going to work well for him. Trump could use a few pounds but he either has had some work or it doesn’t pile up on his face.

  18. Angie says:

    Trump/Owen’s 2024?

    I’m in!

  19. Somebody says:

    Facebook review board upheld the ban on DJT. He is now permanently banned.

  20. Dora says:

    Oh No!

  21. swanspirit says:

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/ca-state-officials-big-tech/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=press_release

    Judicial Watch: Documents Show CA State Officials Coordinated with Big Tech to Censor Americans’ Election Posts
    Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it received 540 pages and a supplemental four pages of documents from the office of the Secretary of State of California revealing how state officials pressured social media companies (Twitter, Facebook, Google (YouTube)) to censor posts about the 2020 election. Included in these documents were “misinformation briefings” emails that were compiled by communications firm SKDK, that lists Biden for President as their top client of 2020. The documents show how the state agency successfully pressured YouTube to censor a Judicial Watch video concerning the vote by mail and a Judicial Watch lawsuit settlement about California voter roll clean up.

    The records were obtained in response to Judicial Watch’s California Public Records Act (CPRA) requests to the Office of the California Secretary of State for records related to the Office of Election Cybersecurity’s database of social media posts; communications with social media companies; and other social media related records regarding the 2020 elections. Judicial Watch filed the requests after a December 2020 report surfaced that the state agency was surveilling, tracking, and seeking to censor the speech of Americans:

    The Office of Election Cybersecurity in the California Secretary of State’s office monitored and tracked social media posts, decided if they were misinformation, stored the posts in an internal database coded by threat level, and on 31 different occasions requested posts be removed. In 24 cases, the social media companies agreed and either took down the posts or flagged them as misinformation, according to Jenna Dresner, senior public information officer for the Office of Election Cybersecurity.

    “We don’t take down posts, that is not our role to play,” Dresner said. “We alert potential sources of misinformation to the social media companies and we let them make that call based on community standards they created.”

    On September 24, 2020, a California Secretary of State chartlists a video from Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton and falsely alleges:

    Head of conservative group Judicial Watch Hosts video alleging Democrats benefit from incorrect voter rolls and ballot collection.

    The Secretary of State’s office details its communication with YouTube: “We wanted to flag this YouTube video because it misleads community members about elections or other civic processes and misrepresents the safety and security of mail-in ballots.” The chart quotes Fitton describing Judicial Watch’s statement about its federal lawsuit settlement with Los Angeles County that will require it to clean up voter rolls and how a Michigan court “changed the rules” on ballot deadlines and ballot harvesting. (The controversial decision was overturned in October 2020.)

  22. lyn5 says:

    Noticed that the GOP rebels–Boebert and Greene–no longer use winred for fundraising. They use Anedot, and PayPal is an option.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Why is it so hard for the GOP to come up with a kickass aternative to Act Blue? Even BLM and Antifa use it for their dastardly deeds. If I started one I’d call it Redrum , lol.

      • lyn5 says:

        I agree. I just don’t want to give my CC # to winred. I love the PayPal option. I think Trump’s site is still winred.

  23. lyn5 says:

    • Locked-N-Loaded says:

      How low they can go remains to be seen, but I’m sure a lot lower, since they are the scum of the earth!!

  24. Angie says:

    • DandyTIger says:

      Though I wonder if she’s so in denial, or in a Bush/Cheney elite bubble, that she may not even understand what’s happening yet. That would be the best. LOL

    • lyn5 says:

    • lyn5 says:

    • lyn5 says:

      short thread

  25. Dora says:

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  29. lyn5 says:

    I’s waiting.

  30. swanspirit says:

    I forgot to change the channel after Tucker Carlson was over, and happened into Hannity interviewing Caitlyn / Bruce Jenner. He has some interesting things to say. He is such a guy. He can paint his fingernails all he wants. He is a guy. But he does seem to be a very conservative one. He just said ” I am 100% behind the police force”

  31. lyn5 says:

    h/t Angie

  32. lyn5 says:

    • lyn5 says:

      Read her thread.
      Seana Lyn @SeanaLyn
      Just got off the phone with mom. So, tho those that know her will all agree she is one of the strongest women ever. But I’m even more in awe knowing that my tiny little mom was staring down a bunch of birds half her size from less than 10 ft away trying to shoo them away.

      • DeniseVB says:

        LOL, some of the suggestions in the comments 😀 First world problem, eh? I’d call the condor people, my goodness, we spend enough money on protecting them.

        • lateblum says:

          This is so NOT a first world problem.

          • DeniseVB says:

            I meant that as if that’s you’re biggest problem having unwelcomed condor guests….you’re pretty lucky. Wouldn’t be a problem in the Third World, they’d just eat them 😀

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