Weekend Open Thread

My favorite Disney characters, woof !

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  1. Dora says:

    I thought I’d like to have been his student, but I’ve changed my mind. 🙂

    • DeniseVB says:

      No one pulls a knife on a Jedi 😀

    • elliesmom says:

      In the city high school where I taught, one of the young female teachers stepped in to stop a fight between two of the girls and ended up in the hospital with a fractured eye socket. Both of the girls in the fight had more injuries the day after the fight than they did the day of. Good.

      • Ann says:

        My father would break up boy fights all the time. He said he would never break up girls fights after getting the business end of their nails once. Girls can be vicious.

        • elliesmom says:

          If a fight broke out in the hallway outside my classroom, I shooed the kids in the area not involved into my classroom. locked the door, and called the office. I never had one break out inside my class, but if I had, I would have reversed it. I was willing to work in a school like that, but not to risk injury. By removing other kids from area I was containing the fight to just those who started it. We had a full time policeman in the school, and he was the one who recommended that’s what teachers should do whether they’re smaller and weaker than the kids or tower over them. Ben, our cop, had handcuffs and a gun.

          • Mt.Laurel says:

            It was rare that fights broke out in our schools. Nuns can be very intimidating. But the couple times it did, they used that method. Sent one student to the office and another to nearby classes to let them know not to dismiss at the bell and Told everyone else to get out and go sit in the cafeteria, gym or chapel. Whatever was closest. while they closed the door and waited. In high school, the army reserves were right across the road and the commander would get there toot sweet ( they also came to help with tornado warnings or any other emergencies) . Rarely had to do anything but use that military tone. And then lectured Them. . One did threaten to hand his gun owner to the nuns when the foursome would not quit throwing punches. Had no disturbances at all for the rest of the year after that maneuver. . Most of the time police did not get involved. But then, at that time most kids would rather have the police called than their parents. These days parents would likely sue everyone for being anti teenagers.

      • Myiq2xu says:

        I used to work as a bouncer and as event security. One of the first things I learned is “Never get between two people who are fighting.” In the military, the space between two sides in a battle is called “No man’s land” for a reason.

        If you have two guys who look like they are about to go to blows with nothing but empty space between them, it is very likely that neither one really wants to fight but they don’t want to look like a coward either. If you step between them, one or both of them may suddenly turn the knobs up to eleventy because your presence makes them feel like they can talk shit with impunity. This is especially true if one of them is an MLF (Mouthy Little Fucker).

    • Miranda says:

      I think punching someone in the face is a legitimate response to having a knife pulled on you.

      • swanspirit says:

        How about that? I hope the kid went to jail. That’s what used to happen to a kid pulling a knife on a teacher. These days, they get a social worker, because they are just misunderstood.

        • Miranda says:

          A principal at my middle school (Baptist-run) broke up a fight by literally throwing one boy in one direction and the other boy in another.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Kids lucky, He coulda got killed. 😯

  2. Dora says:

    He didn’t tell anyone for 85 years. Give me a break!

  3. Dora says:

    Two Kamala Harris Staffers in Charge of Planning Travel Resign Amid Disastrous ‘Border’ Trip


  4. DeniseVB says:

    I think I found my dream “retirement” home 😛

  5. helenk3 says:


    DHS dept of homeland security. this secretary does not seem to be interested in America’s homeland security

    • lateblum says:

      I wonder how much of the report will be disappeared before the end of this weekend.

      • foxyladi14 says:

        We shall see! 😀

      • Constance says:

        It will certainly disappear from the media. I’ve been watching it and one thing is they had hundreds of volunteers working all hours and I assume they could all be considered Patriots. Now those people know each other. The clearly have made friends and have a shared sense of purpose and accomplishment. This is new to non Leftist groups and it will likely prove to be threatening to Leftists and strengthening to Patriots going forward. It’s the sort of thing Leftists instill in the young with their peaceful riots of love and marches for peace only it is productive. A new force is born. You also have hundreds who know what went down first hand. Try to shut that info down. People talk and they also know the media is full of shit.

    • lateblum says:

      I’m all for letting Portland completely destroy itself.

      • Constance says:

        The impression is that it has happened. I know parents who aren’t considering colleges in the area and people who have passed on jobs they were offered.

  6. lateblum says:

    I loved this…

  7. lateblum says:

    Some competition for Meeechelle

    • votermom says:

      My eyes!!! 👀

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Eye bleach needed. 😯

    • swanspirit says:

      That’s not even a good tablecloth. There is no hope, it’s just embarrassing when the so called first lady dresses from the bottom of the goodwill throwaway bin. I can’t even. Not to mention the disaster on the top of her head, most of us call hair.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      I thought the very top part at the neck did not look that bad. Then I clicked and saw the rest. Oh my!

      Why is it that these woman of a certain age have never figured out they are short waisted? I mean I knew it when I was a tween I was not fashionista. Do not tuck in blouse unless you are wearing a jacket or cardigan (and not one two sizes too small) . Stripes are not your friend. Severe Crew necks need to be softened and a high scoop Or vine keeps look much better. And If you go for a dramatic change at the waistline. it needs to need fit to perfection so you do not get that Fred Mertz look with the belt crawling to just under the bust line. And when You have the money, Get you clothes bespoke. A good tailor is your best resource when in the public eye.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        V-neck but for Jillian vine might work.

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      • Constance says:

        I am long waisted, a problem in itself, when I pay to have a jacket made they add 2.5 inches in length. So thanks for pointing out what is going on. I thought she was wearing empire waisted dresses or bought cheap bras. And there is no reason for a wealthy woman in the public not to have custom cut clothes. I’m middle class and I know where to go to have clothes altered or made from scratch. I’ve also never liked patchwork anything except for crazy quilts.

    • lateblum says:

      • Constance says:

        Is Dr Jill making a point of wearing cheap clothes? Does she think that is what middle class people look like? It’s possible that is a designer creation and cost thousands. Maybe she is supporting some unknown brown or black designer in which case wouldn’t that be cultural appropriation?

        • Constance says:

          I still like Elizabeth Warren’s choice of looks. Black column, bright sweater or jacket. You can get that look at Target, QVC, Nordstrom or wherever wealthy women shop. It is relatable to everyone. Everyone who sees it thinks “I saw that outfit at (fill in the blank) last weekend. I have no idea where Hillary gets her clothes. I don’t know anyone who dresses like that although her clothes seem well made.

          • Mothy67 says:

            I think part of Hillary’s arsenal was to be able to deflect from substantive issues by crying about the criticism of her wardrobe. She played victim card a lot. There had to be intent when she wore mustard yellow and split pea pant suits. They were hideous but she got to cry unfair when someone rightly said she looked like a deposit made in a baby’s diaper. It was a way for her to play victim. They’d never say that to a man blah, blah, blah.
            I actually thought she could look stunning in business colors. Like it or not we have a reaction to appearances. Trump has a winning smile. It can disarm you. I get that hillary is 70 plus. The teeth lose their luster but when you are on tv daily spend a few grand on veneers. There are so many pics of her yellow choppers. It has an effect.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        That even has the seeming ever present band aid on the leg.

        Time machine time: Les Nessman and his roving band aid

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    • Myiq2xu says:

      For 8+ years we had our news media trying to force-feed us the idea that Michelle Obama was a fashion icon and a sex symbol. According to them, she was the Venus de Milo with toned arms. The truth is that she isn’t particularly good-looking on her best days and on a bad day she’s hideous.

      Along comes Melania Trump who is easily the best-looking FLOTUS ever, and the media ignores her looks and mocks her voice and fashion sense. According to the media, Melania is what we used to call a “two bagger.” That’s a woman who is so ugly that you have to put a bag over her head to screw her, and you also put a bag over your own head just in case hers falls off.

    • jeffhas says:

      Golce & Dabbana.

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Not sure what the event was, but wait for it……………. 😀

  9. foxyladi14 says:

    RSBN says coverage start at noon.
    America First always!


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  11. helenk3 says:


    You use your enemy’s ideas against them, you do not embrace them. US generals used to know that

  12. swanspirit says:


    Meat prices at the grocery store are going up – and yet the price on the hoof is not. As a matter of fact, many cattle producers are caught in a squeeze and losing money on a per head basis. I saw a report a few weeks ago that noted the retail businesses have a profit margin of about $30 per head of cattle while the meat processor’s margin is around $1000 per head. The rancher’s margin? Between $10 a head and loss of $30, depending on the timing of the sale.

    How does that work? The answer is that it does not.

    The meat processing industry is controlled by four companies, Tyson, Cargill, JBS and National Beef, that process 80% of all slaughtered animals and because access to processing is so limited, you either sell to them or one of their agents or you do not sell at all. Why would the meat processors be putting so much pressure on the producers of protein on the hoof?

    Well, at present, three of the four major processors have gone woke, adopting the ESG methods of corporate control. Environmental, Social, and Corporate Governance data refers to metrics related to intangible assets within the enterprise, roughly equivalent to China’s Social Credit System (that ranks citizens and punishes them with throttled internet speeds and flight bans if the Communist Party deems them untrustworthy).


    Several large investment firms are buying up single family homes. BlackRock, the largest asset management firm on the planet with over $9 trillion in assets, and other money institutions buying up single-family homes as quickly as they can at rates higher than the average homebuyer is willing to pay. Of course, taking homes off the market by overpaying for them, drives overall home prices up.

    Why? Well first, these investment firms can borrow money at historically low rates, even lower than any individual home buyer, but the goal is more insidious – BlackRock and others are causing a shift from home ownership to renting (BlackRock is also the third largest institutional shareholder in the “engineered meat” producer, Beyond Meat).

    Renting degrades the economy for lower and middle class folks while limiting their upward financial mobility by robbing them of the equity increases home ownership typically brings. This is not just BlackRock, Bloomberg just published an article claiming that “America should become a nation of renters”, further stating “The very features that made houses an affordable and stable investment are coming to an end.”

    This idea, coupled with BlackRock’s actions, simply points to a commoditization of the housing market and a consolidation into corporate control of the foundational asset of the American family, their own home. It represents the loss of individual control of another asset class and a created dependence on corporations for the most basic of needs, shelter.

    Now, add to that the control over media and the fact the Internet Overlords and Social Media Commissars have become agents of the federal government and the Democrat Party, and you have a pretty good idea of where the corporations and the big investors think we are going.
    READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE, it’s revealing.

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  14. Mt.Laurel says:

    Lady and The Tramp are my favorites as well. Followed by Alice and her wonderland companions and those Dalmatians. I must have the anti Disney princess gene.

    • Constance says:

      I love Tinkerbell. One of my favorite rides is Peter Pan. Disneyland really cheers me up. A lot of their old attractions are cool. Back in the day when they had ticket books I used to blow through my E tickets and then spend the rest of the day going to obscure attractions that were in the ticket book. I also used to always eat breakfast at Aunt Jemima’s pancake house on the river. Delicious!

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        Have only been to Disney World but recall those ticket books did make you plot out the day . It was in the early years and we stayed in the park so you could hit the popular ones before they opened to the public. Also spent a lot of time exploring by just riding the monorail about park and getting off at each stop and exploring.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I had already seen most of the main Disney attractions at the 64-65 World’s Fair in NYC as a high school kid. Many years later, saw It’s a Small World and Hall of Presidents at Disneyland in California. I think there were others, but I know Disney also created those two in Florida.

          • Mt.Laurel says:

            Yes, they those were two of the original attractions in Florida. Most of the original attractions sans Epcot were a copy of Disneyland but with more room, more resorts and hotels on the property. When I was there the first time it was opening year and only the contemporary and the one other hotel were open for bookings. Went twice with friends that were only children and we had far more freedom than even with then ones much older parents (she was a surprise almost 50 baby) than would be common now. The people working at the contemporary arranged tours of the Polynesian and other spots in their final stages when they saw we were interested in more than just the rides. Good manners and polite questions were our ticket to those extras. I have never wanted to return as I think I would be disappointed in how massive and crowded it has become.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        Fun fact about Disneyland Paris: If you have a kid with you who is dressed in a costume that is the same theme as the attraction, your whole party gets to cut the line as many times as you want. I have a friend in Paris who collects the old costumes of all her friends’ kids and when we used to go, we would just stuff whatever kid fit the best into the costume for the ride we were at! No waiting for Star Tours, Snow White, Peter Pan, Pirates, anything Frozen, Buzz Lightyear…. it was awesome.

  15. Dora says:

    I am outraged too!


    LI Animal Advocates React To Lindenhurst Parrot Nest Destruction

    Wildlife rescue groups, residents and the Village of Lindenhurst are outraged over multiple nests and baby birds being destroyed in park.


  16. lateblum says:

  17. Dora says:

    Trump-appointed judges obstruct Biden ‘pen and phone’ policies just months into term

    Trump judges stymied Biden administration on parts of COVID relief bill, oil and gas leases and more


  18. lateblum says:

    I’m getting a tad nervous. It feels as though CCP has taken over . . .
    I may be over reacting. I’m in the basement. We just had a tornado warning and the one during the week was real.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Stay safe ! I just realized my granddaughter’s only 20 miles up the coast from you at Great Lakes ! Too bad nobody’s allowed to see her until after she gets to A School in Pensacola. Well, if the next 8 weeks go well for her :).

      • lateblum says:

        How awesome that she’s here. I wish I could pay her a visit. Wouldn’t that be cool?

  19. Mothy67 says:

    Maybe I have gone off the deep end, but I believe that if the AZ audit produces anything substantial we can expect a major event on our soil to distract and bury it from the news.
    I honestly do not believe kung flu was the result of a lab leak. I think it was intentionally released to destroy Trump’s re-election. The elf forecast it. Seems like they always divulge their plans. It’s akin to hiding in plain sight. Soros said there wouldn’t be as an open an internet by the time of the election and where are we? I read facebook has amended its terms or guidelines once again. It appears that the Bee might soon be banned because in one release they alluded to banning postings which punch down and then in a second referred to satire as punching down. I am sure twitter and youtube will follow.
    The progs are defenseless against humor. It requires some thought. The goal is control and I am literally flabergasted as to how far they will go. Yep I foresse a yuuuge event. Prayers are with the Pride parade tomorrow because it seems like a perfect target and one with a skeleton police presence.

    • Constance says:

      I feel like you are right. The AZ audit found plenty and you can see them conducting quality control until the end which is now because they are packing up right now. I’ve been around as data is collected for a report and it is discussed and analyzed as it is coming in. The stats probably update themselves as data is recorded. The report is probably essentially written it just needs updating. They are holding the main report until August for some other reason. I too expect a major event or false flag. Get your “earthquake” supplies in order. http://www.4patriots.com

    • Myiq2xu says:

      We are told about all the number of people who died from the Kung-Flu. How many elites got sick? How many died? How many Hollywood celebrities?

      Compare/contrast with the HIV virus.

      • elliesmom says:

        I went through the considerable list of “notable people who have died from covid” at Wikipedia because your comment intrigued me. The list is very long and worldwide, but I didn’t recognize a single name. Lots of people who might be considered “elite” if they lived in your neighborhood. I’m sure Sheldon Whitehouse would be considered “elite” in mine if anybody liked him enough to be proud he’s here. But nobody who lives on a world stage. Strange, huh?

        • Mothy67 says:

          If I recall correctly there were a few Broadway players who had had strokes, emphysema, aged 80 plus. Terrence McNally was one he was 81 and had a host of health issues.
          My bullshit detector went off when the Hanks tested positive. It just felt so scripted. I mean if Forrest can get it anyone can. Loads of stars revealed they had recovered. Okay, sure.

  20. Mothy67 says:

    I think most non crazy people and even many of us a little unwell are aware that lots of things have been very off about the entire covid experience. I feel like it was by design to have us all look to the government. So little is analyzed. Things we will never know and may have helped down the road if/when a truly deadly bug arrives. We have no clue as to what the actual deaths are. It amazes my how Australea and New Zealand permit the government to completely shut them down when a cluster arrives. A cluster can be 12 people. 12 people shut down a continent?
    I read today that NY is banning alcohol to go with only 24 hours notice. You can still buy (much cheaper) booze from a liquor store, but you can”t get premade coctails to go. Selling adult beverages kept the lights on for a lot of places. 24 hours notice they remove the only viable revenue stream. Places have been closed or operating on a shoestring for over a year. They are going to have to hire and retrain staff. I doubt many younger waitstaff withstood a year of being stuck inside. Chains will survive but just as small retail shops are gone so will mom and pop restaurants. By design? The small business owner defines the American Dream. Covid has been used to crush it.
    What harm could come from allowing restaurants and bars to continue selling libations through the summer. You weren’t allowed to sip and walk down the street. And again you can go into a liquor store buy a bottle of gin, a tonic, and a lime then consume the beverage just as you do a premade one. It might run you 30 for 20 coctails made at home. State gets one shot with taxes on the 30. Four grown up boozey bevs to go would be 60 at least. The genuises would be collecting tax on At least 300 from that one bottle.
    I believe dims are all for big business they are crushing the entrepreneurship spirit.

    • DeniseVB says:

      You’re right, no big deal. There’s a liquor store on almost every block. Buy a yuge travel mug, fill with crushed ice (I’m sure a bodega wouldn’t mind if you borrowed some from their fresh fruit display out front, I’d offer to pay though). At least buy an ocean spray cranberry bottle to pour over the pint of vodka and ice already in your mug. Voila ! Now you’re ready to fall down the subway stairs and not feel a thing……LOL !

      • Mothy67 says:

        People weren’t walking around with drinks. Open containers are illegal, but people were ordering to take home. It is a money maker. Giving them one day to cease is absurd. It’s not like everything will be at full capicity in a week. They are struggling to hold on. You can do beer takeout and if you uncork wine inside it can be sealed in a plastic bag to go. Silly rule isn’t stopping anyone who wants to walk around drunk from doing so. I agree walking around while imbibing could get ugly but why not allow a few weeks of continued policy until restaurants have reclaimed footing.

    • Constance says:

      They are crushing the culture and trying to replace it with some white bread woke crap. And the virus was designed. I got an e-mail from a kid I worked with who is now in Thailand within a month of the first Covid cases. He warned that there were 4 gene substitutions from the nearest known variant and that this could not happen naturally. It was planned.

  21. Myiq2xu says:

    This is an except from an article by Matt Taibbi:

    On December 31st of last year, an 80 year-old Buffalo-area woman named Judith Smentkiewicz fell ill with Covid-19. She was rushed by ambulance to Millard Fillmore Suburban Hospital in Williamsville, New York, where she was put on a ventilator. Her son Michael and his wife flew up from Georgia, and were given grim news. Judith, doctors said, had a 20% chance at survival, and even if she made it, she’d be on a ventilator for a month.

    As December passed into the New Year, Judith’s health declined. Her family members, increasingly desperate, had been doing what people in the Internet age do, Googling in search of potential treatments. They saw stories about the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin, learning among other things that a pulmonologist named Pierre Kory had just testified before the Senate that the drug had a “miraculous” impact on Covid-19 patients. The family pressured doctors at the hospital to give Judith the drug. The hospital initially complied, administering one dose on January 2nd. According to her family’s court testimony, a dramatic change in her condition ensued.

    “In less than 48 hours, my mother was taken off the ventilator, transferred out of the Intensive Care Unit, sitting up on her own and communicating,” the patient’s daughter Michelle Kulbacki told a court.

    After the reported change in Judith’s condition, the hospital backtracked and refused to administer more. Frustrated, the family turned on January 7th to a local lawyer named Ralph Lorigo. A commercial litigator and head of what he calls a “typical suburban practice,” with seven lawyers engaged in everything from matrimonial to estate work, Lorigo assigned one of his attorneys to review materials given to them by the family, which included Kory’s Senate testimony. The associate showed Lorigo himself the the material next morning.

    “I was so convinced by what Dr. Kory was saying,” Lorigo says. “I saw the passion and the belief.”

    Lorigo immediately sued the hospital, filing to State Supreme Court to force the facility to treat according to the family’s wishes. Judge Henry J. Nowak sided with the Smentkiewiczes, signing an order that Lorigo and one of his attorneys served themselves, and after a series of quasi-absurd dramas that included the hospital refusing to let the Smentkiewicz family physician phone in the prescription — “the doctor actually had to drive to the hospital,” Lorigo says — Judith went back on ivermectin.

    “She was out of that hospital in six days,” Lorigo says. After a month of rehab, his octogenarian client went back to her life, which involved working five days a week (she still cleans houses). Her story, complete with photo, was told in the Buffalo News, causing Lorigo’s phone to begin ringing off the hook. Doppleganger cases soon began dotting the map all over the country.

    One of the first was in nearby Rochester, New York, where the family of Glenna Dickinson went through an almost exactly similar narrative to the Smentkiewiczes: they read about ivermectin, got a family doctor to prescribe it, saw improvement, only to later have the hospital refuse treatment. Again Lorigo intervened, again a judge ordered the hospital to treat, again the patient recovered and was discharged.

    Hospitals fought hard, hiring expensive law firms, at times going to extraordinary lengths to refuse treatment even with dying patients who’d exhausted all other options. At Edward-Elmhurst hospital in Chicago, a 68 year-old named Nurije Fype was admitted, put on a ventilator, and again, as all other treatments failed, her family got a judge to order the use of ivermectin. Lorigo claims the hospital initially refused to obey the court order, which led to the filing of a contempt motion, which in turn led to a pair of counter-motions and another confrontation before another befuddled Judge named James Orel.

    “Why wouldn’t this be tried if she’s not improving?” the Chicago Tribune quoted Orel as saying. “Why does the hospital object to providing this medication?”

    “He basically said, ‘What do you have left?’” Lorigo recounts. “No one would administer the ivermectin. It’s as safe as aspirin, for Christ’s sake. It’s been given out 3.7 billion times. I couldn’t understand it.”

    Stories like these aren’t proof the drug works. They don’t even really rise to the level of evidence. People recover from diseases all the time, and it doesn’t mean any particular treatment was responsible. Short of the gold standard of randomized controlled trials, there’s no proof.

    However, anecdotes have a power all their own, and in the Internet age, ones like these spread quickly. Lorigo estimates he now gets “10, 15, 20” calls and emails a day. At this level, at the bedside of a single Covid-19 patient who’s already received the full official treatment protocol and is failing anyway, the decision to administer a drug like ivermectin, or fluvoxamine, or hydroxychloroquine, or any of a dozen other experimental treatments, seems like a no-brainer. Nothing else has worked, the patient is dying, why not?

    Telescope out a little further, however, and the ivermectin debate becomes more complicated, reaching into a series of thorny controversies, some ridiculous, some quite serious.

    The ridiculous side involves the front end of Lorigo’s story, the same story detailed on this site last week: the censorship of ivermectin news that, no matter what one thinks about the evidence for or against, is clearly in the public interest.

    Anyone running a basic internet search on the topic will get a jumble of confusing results. YouTube’s policies are beyond uneven. It’s been aggressive in taking down videos containing interviews with people like Kory and doling out strikes to independent media figures like Bret Weinstein, but an interview with Lorigo on TrialSite News containing basically all of the same information is still up, as are clips from a just-taped episode of the Joe Rogan Experience that feature both Weinstein and Kory. Moreover, all sorts of statements at least as provocative as Kory’s “miraculous” formulation in the Senate still litter the Internet, many in reputable research journals. Take, for instance, this passage from the March issue of the Japanese Journal of Antibiotics:

    When the effectiveness of ivermectin for the COVID-19 pandemic is confirmed with the cooperation of researchers around the world and its clinical use is achieved on a global scale, it could prove to be of great benefit to humanity. It may even turn out to be comparable to the benefits achieved from the discovery of penicillin…

    There clearly is not evidence that ivermectin is the next penicillin, at least as far as its effects on Covid-19. As is noted in nearly every mainstream story about the subject, the WHO has advised against its use pending further study, there have been randomized studies showing it to be ineffective in speeding recovery, and the drug’s original manufacturer, Merck, has said there’s no “meaningful evidence” of efficacy for Covid-19 patients. However, it’s also patently untrue, as is frequently asserted, that there’s no evidence that the drug might be effective.

    This past week, for instance, Oxford University announced it was launching a large-scale clinical trial. The study has already recruited more than 5,000 volunteers, and its announcement says what little is known to be true: that “small pilot studies show that early administration with ivermectin can reduce viral load and the duration of symptoms in some patients with mild COVID-19,” that it’s “a well-known medicine with a good safety profile,” and “because of the early promising results in some studies, it is already being widely used to treat COVID-19 in several countries.”

    The Oxford text also says “there is little evidence from large-scale randomized controlled trials to demonstrate that it can speed up recovery from the illness or reduce hospital admission.” But to a person who might have a family member suffering from the disease, just the information about “early promising results” would probably be enough to inspire demands for a prescription, which might be the problem, of course. Unless someone was looking for that information, they likely wouldn’t find it, as mainstream news even of the Oxford study has been effectively limited to a pair of Bloomberg and Forbes stories.

    Ivermectin has suffered the same fate as thousands of other news topics since Donald Trump first announced his run for the presidency nearly six years ago, cleaved in two to inhabit separate factual universes for left and right audiences. Repurposed drugs generally have had a hard time being taken seriously since Trump announced he was on hydroxychloroquine last year, and ivermectin clearly also suffers from its association with Republican Senators like Ron Johnson. Still, the drug’s publicity issues go beyond the taint of “conservative” news.

    The drug has become a test case for a controversy that’s long been building in health care, about how much input patients should have in their own treatment. Well before Covid-19, the medical profession was thrust into a revolution in patient information, inspired by a combination of Google and new patients’ rights laws.

    Should people on their deathbeds be allowed to try anything to save themselves? That seems like an easy question to answer. Should the entire world be allowed to practice self-care on a grand scale? That’s a different issue. Some would say absolutely not, while others would say the corruption of pharmaceutical companies and the medical system unfortunately make it a necessity. The world is increasingly divided along this trust/untrust axis.

    Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald are two liberal writers who find themselves agreeing with/defending conservatives quite a bit these days.

  22. Angie says:

    • swanspirit says:

      NEWSMAX is carrying the rally as well. 😁

      • lyn5 says:

        Don’t know what Rumble is doing, but I’m watching on RSBN.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Me too. DH has the remote and he turns into a crazy gorilla man protecting his banana, well, flipping around the Olympic trials and Yankees-Red Sox. Much easier to watch the stream 😀

          • elliesmom says:

            My son will be at the Red Sox-Yankees game at Fenway today. It’s my fault he loves baseball so much. Elliesdad would sit at a game and read a book. When Rob got old enough to go, he became my “date”. You can watch a game from the rooftop of the hospital where he did his cancer treatment and hear the cheers. I was really glad I had introduced him to going to the games from the time he was little because his treatments started early in the baseball season, and those warm summer nights on the roof were an oasis.

      • taw46 says:

        The real President is speaking.

      • Anthony says:

        Watching it now

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  24. Mothy67 says:

    Virginia state PTA may void a local PTA election because they don’t like the results
    I hate leftists

  25. 1539days says:

    Some weekend reading.
    My blog post about a WaPo article that tries to blame Trump for COVID, but basically shows that treating people with COVID cures them.

    No Cure for COVID

  26. Dora says:

    The world we are living in.

  27. Dora says:

    • Anthony says:

      Boycott Make A Wish Foundation. No more donations, peaceful protests and demonstrations in front of regional offices, contact news outlets who air this video. I’ve fucking had it.

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  32. Mothy67 says:

    What happens to the mind of the proggie if a devout sharia woman finds herself alone in a spa bathroom with a woman sporting a penis?

    Read yesterday that the UK is facing a new crisis — 61% of respondents do not inquire as to a person’s preferred pronouns upon first meeting. I think I might cease existing if I encountered someone and that was included in the introduction. I’d laugh myself to expiration.

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  35. elliesmom says:

    I spent yesterday with my son. We don’t always agree about politics, but we both agree the other’s point of view is worth listening to. As I’ve said before, he works in the pediatric research department of a world class hospital. So I asked him what he thought about the hospital in Texas firing employees who refuse to get vaccinated. He told me the hospital where he works sent everyone a letter. It said they would be following their usual protocol. An employee’s health records are private both through HIPAA and their own hospital policy. No employees would be asked about their vaccination status. In addition, to show their employees how serious they are about this, there would be no onsite vaccination clinics for employees since that would generate a medical record. They gave the addresses of places to get vaccinated that are within walking distance and where to get a complete list from the state.

    Then the letter went on to say the protocols in place to prevent the spread of an infectious disease in a hospital with vulnerable patients are the protocols they were following before and during the pandemic and would continue to follow after. The hospital has had a stellar record of containing the virus while still continuing to treat patients for the reasons that bring them there. That they can brag about that success is due to the continued diligence of their employees, and everyone thanks and congratulates them.

    I asked my son what he thought about the letter. He said he wasn’t surprised about the “no ask” policy because that’s in keeping with how they handle patient privacy. He has a huge patient file there, and anytime one of the doctor’s who didn’t treat him personally wants to see it, there’s a stack of forms my son needs to sign, and the hospital won’t let him give the peds unit blanket permssion. He is surprised about the no employee vaccination clinic, though. He gets his flu shot onsite every year. That has led him to wonder if the hospital is removing itself from liability issues they expect might come. I can’t say if the hospital’s seeming hesitancy affected my son’s decision because I don’t know if he’s been vaccinated or not. He didn’t ask me, and I didn’t ask him.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      I think his hospital has taken a far more rational approach than many. They should already have procedures in place and not need to go overboard for covid. All the special focus on covid does Is set a new precedent that can come back to bite. I do agree it is interesting about flu on-site but no covid. Most also hold blood drives onsite as well. I recall having to manage one when HIV/AIDs had just really hit mainstream. Not canceled because of “the scare”.

    • 1539days says:

      My employer has uses the trick of “everyone has to wear a mask unless they voluntarily submit their vaccination papers to HR.” That’s bad enough, but apparently, they’re worried about people daring to not wear a mask without submitting to them. So, there are also spot checks to people without a mask. Plus, your vaccination info is now going in the HR system.

      So, I will continue to wear a mask. Even if I get vaccinated, (unlikely) I’m not submitting private health information.

      My sister does administrative work at a hospital. They offered her the vaccine in December. The admin building is miles away from the hospital, plus most of the staff works from home.

      That hospital in Texas will have a hell of a time getting more nurses. I bet Florida won’t all of a sudden.

  36. DeniseVB says:

    Watching the Tour de France wondering if they’re biking through Jadzia’s neighborhood yet? The countryside is absolutely breathtaking. Looks like they’ll be arriving July 1 😀

  37. mothy2017 says:

    I think it’s criminal that pure comedy gold may never be mined because no studio will risk being cancelled by the mob for making a woke horror film. Serial Mom does twitter. A bit of Scream sensibilty coupled with over the top camp. A Manson type figure modeled after @Jack.

  38. lyn5 says:

    • Mothy67 says:

      Additionally he appointed Patrick Bumatay to the Ninth circuit
      Grenell was one of the most accomplished ever to serve in a cabinet level position.
      petey is unqualified for his position, nominated because he’s gay
      Wasn’t it the obama/biden administration that left a gay ambassador to be sodomized and dragged through the streets

  39. helenk3 says:

    another FBI screwup made a man suffer unbearable harm.
    there needs to be a clean sweep at the FBI or it should be disbanded. It is no good to this country as it is.

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    h/t Angie

    • lyn5 says:

      h/t Angie, again.

      The Reckoning @sethjlevy

      Maybe you noticed last night but if not I’ll fill you in. There are those on the right, people you would assume would be on “our side” and 100% MAGA who are either angry at Trump or jealous of him.

      They believe this is their movement and they want it back.

      They’re using all sorts of disinformation tactics to lift themselves up diminish Trump.

      They are trolling Trump’s attempts to help people like @MaxMillerOH
      defeat RINOs like Anthony Gonzales.

      Diminishing the incredible political power that has 1 million people watching a rally online and 25,00 people showing up in person 6 months after Trump lost the WH and a year and a half before the mid terms.

      As though they or any of their preferred politicians could touch that.

      They’re even rewriting history. Pretending that Trump in 2017 had the political standing to do things that even Biden can’t do today.

      They’ll ignore that he won with a razor margin in 2016 and 30 Senators either believed he was a Russian pawn or were happy to play along.

      They act as though there were so many obvious hires that could have been Senate confirmed in 2017 that would’ve been loyal to Trump and MAGA. When even now, they as supposed MAGA have effectively turned on the most MAGA President in American history.

      Instead of rallying to the only Republican politician in the country that will openly oppose McConnell and openly back candidates willing to challenge the RINOs they say they hate, they work to diminish Trump’s first term and dismiss his current efforts.

      I am only writing this thread for those worried about these folks. I couldn’t care less. They are what they are. As someone that’s been fighting this battle since 2015, I don’t let these sorts effect me.

      I seek a reformation and transformation of the Republican Party.

      These people hold prominence on Twitter and in right wing media but they are irrelevant to reality.

      My suggestion? Ignore them and thank Trump for what he’s done and what he’s doing.

      7:01 AM · Jun 27, 2021

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  46. Constance says:

    I just checked the AZ audit cameras and they are actually working today! They never work Sundays. A few people are working around the server and they called the warehouse workers in who have been controlling the boxes of ballots. All the pallets of ballots were neatly stacked and ready to be put away but now they are crawling all over them and have pulled out around 30 boxes and they are still looking. Interesting since they have to be out of the facility in 3 more days and have removed their counting and forensic examination equipment I wouldn’t expect them to be messing up their pallets.

    • lyn5 says:

      Here’s the link: https://azaudit.org/

      I did a search, and most links are to stories or opinion pieces that question the AZ audit.

      Some headlines:

      “No fraudits allowed: I banned fraudulent election audits so Colorado won’t become Arizona” USA Today

      “The Arizona election ‘audit’ is a partisan and amateurish endeavor that ‘should not be trusted,’ expert review finds” Business Insider

      “How Arizona’s 2020 election ‘audit’ went from comedy to tragedy” MSNBC

      • Constance says:

        I hope the Cabal sticks to BS stories and restricting search results. I have the feeling just like Tim that they will stage a mega disaster event to grab headlines when the results are released. They are supposedly missing 20% of the ballots that were certified which is probably how many extras were generated by the programing that assigned a value of 133 to Biden votes and 75 to Trump votes. The Lib intellectuals and writers who have some integrity left are going to be challenged by these facts. I keep thinking how low can they go and the answer is always lower than they are now. There is apparently no bottom to their lies and idiocy.

      • 1539days says:

        “There are ballot irregularities”
        “You can’t prove that”
        “There should be an audit”
        “Screw you. If you want one, you can pay for it”

    • Locked-N-Loaded says:

      I think they are just doing some final quality control of the required documents/forms on selected boxes.

  47. helenk3 says:


    if the feds won’t protect the border and keep inserting illegals into non border states, the governors will have to do it.
    may I suggest that the states keep at least 10% of federal taxes to help cover the cost

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    • Constance says:

      Libs need to label others and they want to tell you what you think. They have no sense that others are real people and Libs require a nemesis so they project you in that role. To them you aren’t real just a player in their personal drama.

  49. Anthony says:

    Watching Psycho pn TCM. Seems appropriate after watching the news.

    • lateblum says:

      I saw it was on and just couldn’t do it. I will never forget the effect it had on my life after the first time I saw it.mi don’t want to ever see it again.

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