Thursday Open Thread

Chicago Botanic Garden in September

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  1. DeniseVB says:

    Gutfeld-Trump Part One………..

    Gutfeld-Trump Part Two ………..

  2. DeniseVB says:

    Running late this morning, woke up feeling like I was hit by a truck and fell back to sleep with some tylenol. I saw the head’s up from last night an Gutfeld. Got’em 😀

    Hat tip to the Chicago Botanical this morning while thinking of my granddaughter’s boot camp graduation tomorrow morning. Hooyah ! My son and her twin are on their way today, I’ll watch the live stream and be a blubbering mess. 😀 She already passed all her tests two weeks ago in a special unit and will graduate with the rest of her division on the 10th.

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  4. taw46 says:

    The commie left just can’t stop with the Trump hatred and their attempts to destroy him. Today they are trending “TrumpIsATerrorist” with more of their lies. Since Twitter has suspended so many conservatives, the left runs wild with their bs. Not many left to call them out. Just tells me they are still afraid of Trump and his returning to the WH.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Everyday it seems to be something ghoulish about Trump or Melania. I just hide the trending topic under spammy, hurtful garbage 😀

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        They were going on and on last week in our office space about how Jillie speaks French fluently unlike the pretend model who only memorized a couple words with the fake euro accent to cover for the fact she is from the Bronx. It’s days like that I am glad our agency is tiny and as I the only one even going in person I can shut my door claiming online session and don’t want to disturb anyone.

        This week I have avoided so far as they will be giddy as the idiots knocked over the Lee statue. Plus the buzz over gerrymandering the state like Maryland has been doing to all but eliminate any opinions but those approved by the bots overloads in the state legislatures and make sure no other PT types ever get a foothold again. Maybe I will go tomorrow and leave early.

        • taw46 says:

          They are insane, aren’t they? As I have said before, you have my sympathy for having to work with these people. I would not survive work today, if I had to be around the crazy left.

    • Constance says:

      It just makes them look deranged. They have no perspective of how they look or seem to normals.

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  6. taw46 says:

    He’s right, this was the best interview. I love President Trump.

  7. elliesmom says:

    I hope you feel better soon, Denise. I have what appears to be the same malady. I wrote it off to what appeared to be seasonal allergies, but 3 days of antihistamines just made me constantly sleepy. Then Ellie, Hank and I had a disagreement over who got to walk through a doorway first, and all three of us ended up in a tangle on the floor. Ellie knows it’s Mom first, but she and Hank were in disagreement over who is second. When Hank decided he was going to push her out of the way, she ended up pushed into me. No biggy. Over a hundred pounds of dog made for a nice cushion, but my shoulder slammed into the doorframe. When I popped an ibuprofen the next morning, the headache went away, too. But if I stop taking it, the shoulder is fine, but the headache comes back. I have other friends who are complaining about the same thing, but we haven’t been in physical contact in months. It’s raining today, which should clear some of the pollen. We’ll see if that makes a difference.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Generic tylenol is magical, I buy it off Amazon in 500 quantities 🙂

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      I thought is was a combination of allergies , the desire to avoid the crazies at the office and dealing with a horrid commute. But then I kept nodding off all day yesterday and today I woke feeling worse than I did yesterday complete with a stomach ache as if I had not eaten in days. headed back to relax in bed after a yogurt with a mucinex and Advil chaser and ensuring kitties had clean boxes and kibble. Still here reading the TCH with now contended kitties who love hanging out on the bed on such gray days and hoping the head will settle.

      • elliesmom says:

        Advil is my best chance of killing a headache, but it interferes with my bp meds so it’s a “one and done”. But I do have 500 mg generic Tylenol so on Denise’s suggestion I took some of that. It appears to be doing its job. Cleared my head well enough for me to pop some muffins in the oven and jump in the shower while they baked. Now if I can find the bag of Italian wedding soup meatballs I think I have stashed in the freezer, I can make a pot of soup and not worry about feeling like making myself something to eat for dinner.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Good ! I think my stroke was caused by a blood pressure spike (I was not on bp meds). Now that I am, was told I can take nothing but Acetaminophen for anything. I was really pleased how well generic Tylenol worked. I just had to take two more as the earlier dose was wearing off.

  8. Constance says:

    You know what I just bought online from River Pharmacy….Ivermectin (human form) and z-pack. I ran across it last night and had to have it. I have had an inner ear infection this summer which I think is allergy related but it seems to be going away and I’m getting better at dealing with the dizziness. This is just in case I or anyone close to me gets Covid this year. I already had Zinc, Vitamin D and Quercetin but I now feel like I have a complete Covid destroyer stash!

    • lateblum says:

      Where is River Pharmacy? Was it otc? I searched for River Pharmacy and found several.
      Thanks. I hope your dizziness goes away.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Good for you! ❤

    • Somebody says:

      Did you need a doctor prescription? If you don’t mind me asking how much was it? I checked into an online pharmacy and the price for a standard course of ivermectin for covid was about $450

    • Constance says:

      Here is the link
      The headquarters are in Canada but the drugs come from India. They didn’t ask for a prescription. You have to pay with an e-check. I bought 30 Ivermectin and 30, 250mg Azithromycin and the total was about $160. The shipping is really expensive. This place was recommended by someone I know so I thought I’d try it. She said delivery can take 2 weeks. You can buy less but I have a couple people going in on the order. From what I read you only need to take the Ivermectin for 5 days. I’ll let you know how it works out.

    • taw46 says:

      If I ever need it, there is an Urgent Care center here that will give you a prescription. They haven’t been stopped yet.

      • Constance says:

        That’s great you are so lucky to have a real clinic. Seattle is so brainwashed Woke that they regularly blab in the city papers and blogs about denying treatment to the un-vaxxed.. I didn’t want to take my chances as I am not getting any more Covid shots. I’ve been having weird health problems ever since my Covid shots. First the mouth full of cold sores that kept coming back every time I stopped taking L lysine for 4 months and now this inner ear infection. I was staggering around like a drunk before the round of Doxycycline and I couldn’t even ride in a car let alone drive. And all this for a shot that apparently doesn’t even work. If I get Covid I’m going with zinc, Ivermectin and Z-pack.

  9. lyn5 says:

    Jail me, fascist pigs.

    White House Signals New COVID-19 Measures Coming for People Who Are Unvaccinated
    By Jack Phillips
    September 8, 2021 Updated: September 9, 2021

  10. Anthony says:

    Only here for a second to share something – some of our local restaurants have reinstated contact tracing. I had to sign in to order takeout. I used the name “Don Kedyk”. Keep saying it out loud until you hear it…

  11. lyn5 says:

    I survived Retinal Surgery 2.0–The Other Eye. Had a different surgeon who puts the hole in ass. Will see him one more time for the followup and then go back to my first surgeon.

    The elevation climb was awful. Had to go back down and I put more eye drops in and took Advil. Usually it adds one and a half hours to the trip. this one added an extra hour. My eye pressure was 5 after the first surgery; it was 26 yesterday. The first doc kept my eye pressure low for two months.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Ugh. Good luck with the rest. Doesn’t sound fun, but will be great after it’s all done.

      • lyn5 says:

        Thank you. ❤ I won't be online much. I broke the rules with my left eye last time, but my my vision is 20/15 (cataract surgery helped with that too).

        This doc wants me to be down on my left side for 23 hours a day for five days. It takes 30 minutes to put six drops in, and that's twice a day. Two of those drops are every two hours while awake. Add the blood clots warning, and that numbah is impossible to do.

        • Mt.Laurel says:

          I generally only take one Advil for bad headache or arthritis . An Advil and Tylenol (genetic) for migraine with a cup of coffee. Two Tylenol for all other aches. I have been trying to avoid decongestants as they muck with blood pressure but it I have to only with Tylenol. Decongestant with Advil I now also become dizzy. Might have to look to Denise’s 500 mg as I see bp meds in my near future.

          • Mt.Laurel says:

            Well that comment was in response to Ellie’s above so either did not nest well or my wordpress is wonky as it often is on the tablet.

            At any rate, having now read Lyn’s comments on her surgery , rest and take care of those eyes. And may you soon be free of holes in search of behinds.

        • Constance says:

          Oh no. I’m glad the surgery part is over. The 23 hour lay down sounds awful. I hope you have some good books on tape. Sending positive vibes.

          • lyn5 says:

            ❤ I can sit with my head down too. I do have a lot of audiobooks.

          • Somebody says:

            I’m glad you have something Lyn, the 23 hours doesn’t sound like fun. I’m glad it’s only for 5 days.

            I hope your healing is swift and uneventful. I’ll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Do what the doctor tells you ! {{{ ❤ }}} You'll be good as new soon and we'll always be here…….

    • taw46 says:

      Sorry, I did not know you were having additional eye surgery. It does sound so painful. Take care of yourself and here’s to a speedy recovery! You will be missed here.

    • elliesmom says:

      I find there are TV shows I can use like radio plays if I recognize the voices of most of the characters. It’s surprising how little you have to watch. Until I moved the TV from my sewing room downstairs to the guest room for Crash, I used to turn it on while I sewed. It was behind me where I could only hear it. Rest up. We’ll be here when you’re ready. ❤

    • votermom says:

      Prayers that you heal quickly, lyn

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    Is there any enemy of this country that bid-on and the benedicts will not help?

    funny how they were so happy to kill the keystone pipeline, but help our enemies have theirs

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    bid-on and benedicts got what they wanted

    Gee who knew that all you had to do was to pay the bid-on family a few million and you could lower the standing of the US without firing a shot

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  17. lateblum says:

    The war has started on my Nextdoor app. Some ppl were up in arms that certain companies had contributed to the campaigns for some of the authors of the new Texas abortion bill. One person spoke against a commenter calling him “proliferation”. All I said was, “. . . you say “prolife” as if it is a bad thing.”
    I may be banned from this discussion board charmingly filled with hateful comments toward anyone even a tad to the right of Bette Midler. The entire thread of comments was already so filled with rancor towards ppl questioning mask mandates and then the TX abortion restrictions arose out of the ashes. What a bunch of hypocritical haters who consider themselves “sophisticated, educated and tolerant”. I was looking for a plumber. Instead I got hate-filled ideology.

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  19. Somebody says:

    Kids are such fun, NOT! We got a new dining room table. A Tommy Bahama table, it’s nice, solid, sturdy. My husband likes it more than I do, he loves the “manly” table. My sister called yesterday and he went on and on about the table. It has a lightly distressed finish which hubby likes, he’s so happy not to have a museum piece, blah, blah.

    Well it’s even more distressed now, thanks to the younger two grandkids. They just wore out their pencil erasers making marks on the table.🤪

    I figured no big deal, some polish and it’s good as new. Apparently not😬 According to a quick Google search I must try WD40 and if that fails I must sand out the marks.

    Hubby is now officially pissed.

    • lateblum says:

      That’s too bad! I had no idea the erasers on pencils could cause such damage. I hope you’ll be able to clean up the marks and Mr Somebody will be happy again with the new table.
      I have to share with you what Calamity said right after I redecorated my living room (after 40 years of the same furnishings).
      She and Big sis came over for the day and we had taken out all the crafts and books and bins of toys and they brought the crayons and books into the living room instead of the dining room or den. I said that we had to be careful of the new tables in the living room because I they scratched verrry easily. (They are smoothed slate set into metal.) She said, “So, Grammy, what’s the point of having tables of you can’t use them?” Actually, I agreed with her. And responded that if I had known just how easily they became marred, I wouldn’t have bought them. But they were to find place mats to use on the tables and still have fun in the living room. They were happy to stay in the “new room” snd play.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        This is not a table story but somewhat similar I think. I have not put ANYTHING on my coffee tables, buffets, etc. for 22 years. When my first kid was born I was like oh, let’s just not have anything breakable, it’s only for a few years. Then the kids kept coming and technically everybody is old enough now for me to have real decoration again (I look completely house-poor because I furnish so sparsely pursuant to my “don’t have anything the kids can break” rule), but they still act like bulls in a china shop so now I’m thinking maybe after everyone grows up and moves out. The girls literally do cartwheels in the living room and I’m tired of yelling.

        • lateblum says:

          You’ll return to your “house poor” appearance the moment the grandbabies appear. Or else, you can put the “stuff” out, tell the little ones “no” and then let them ride their trikes up and down the hallway (like I did). My kids are still mad that I let the grandgirlies ride in the apartment. I have to remind them that they were allowed to ride their little bikes indoors during the winters when they were little. Thank goodness I took pictures. lol. And, sadly, I did a lot of yelling as well. *Nome too proud of that.

          • jadzia1971 says:

            I’m hoping the cave (which is where they currently ride their bikes) will be renovated into LOTS of space for kids by the time grandkids start to arrive!

          • lateblum says:

            Awesome!! I hope so, too. You’ll be remembered as One Very Cool Grandma.💕

          • jadzia1971 says:

            Yeah, I’m worried I won’t be remembered at all. That’s the downside to having kids when you’re already old. : (

          • lateblum says:

            Geez, Jadzia! If you’re old, I should be dead already. ❤️ But I get your thinking. I can’t imagine anyone who’s met you could forget you!

          • jadzia1971 says:

            Ha ha! I just meant that I was 40 when I had my youngest. If she waits until she’s 40 to have kids….

  20. jadzia1971 says:

    I hope none of you plague rats work for large employers.

    On the other hand, I wonder if the Biden Administration considered the fact that big employers have a lot more money than small ones do when it comes a-suing time.

    I’ve been away from America for a while, and I thought, how can this type of dictatorial agency rulemaking possibly be constitutional? Then I remembered that you guys now live in an America where the ACLU just went all-in for forced vaccination, and realized that the Constitution is now whatever the Dems say it is.

    Sorry, folks.

    • elliesmom says:

      The two groups with the lowest vaccination rates are blacks and people with PhDs. Both groups are constituents of the Democrats. If Biden’s handlers have convinced him it’s Trump’s supporters, they must have a hidden agenda or be brain dead. If they try for a vaccine mandate, it will go to the courts, and while I don’t trust this Supreme Court, Trump has gone on the record saying he encourages people to get vaccinated, but it’s a personal decision. Thanks to Gutfeld’s totally charming interview, Trump’s stand is out there. That must give Democrats up for election in 2022 something to ponder. A lot of people who think everyone should get vaccinated stop short of supporting a mandate. If Biden chooses to use access to medical care as his stick, he also damages the case for universal healthcare. What’s next as a reason to deny someone access? Obesity? Alcohol or drug use?

      • jadzia1971 says:

        I was wondering what would happen once African-Americans start to be fired en masse. However, the NYC passport excludes, assuming that the vaccinated numbers haven’t changed substantially in the last month, more than 70% of African-Americans from restaurants and all the other public places where it applies, and nobody seems to give a shit. Interesting, no?

        I also wonder what will happen to Ph.Ds. Every day lately I have thanked my lucky stars that I took the entrepreneurial route instead of remaining an employee. It has been far more lucrative and I’ve enjoyed a much higher quality of life, especially in terms of being there for my kids. (It’s ironic that I didn’t take this route completely by choice, but instead was somewhat of a casualty of my profession’s distaste for women who have more than one child–I was basically pushed out of my last law firm when I was pregnant with #3. Talk about a blessing in disguise.) Most Ph.Ds I know, however, especially in the humanities and social sciences, don’t have real survival skills in terms of being able to figure out how to earn a living without the support of a large institution.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        I believe that the standard response to that is “well, obesity and drug use aren’t contagious.” Okay, now do smoking, which DOES affect the people around you. Or STDs.

    • 1539days says:

      My company has been dying to get permission from the government to mandate a vaccine. I’m on the verge of letting them fire me.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        The standard advice I am seeing is “make them fire you, don’t quit,” supposedly because of the rules of unemployment eligibility. If they fire you, would you be eligible for unemployment, or are vaccine resisters going to be deemed to have been fired for cause?

        (Also, I don’t remember what state you’re in, and I’m guessing that could make a difference.)

        I am getting more and more paranoid, which is not great. For now, I’m not experiencing any punishment other than the minor inconvenience (and economy!) of not patronizing restaurants, gyms, or other places where I might actually have fun. But I’m starting to worry about grocery stores–both in terms of a tightening of the ban and supply-chain issues. The last two times I’ve gone to Costco, they were out of a LOT of things that they normally carry. This has been going on for months.

        I’m worried about tracking and tracing based on debit-card use, and the banks have been pretty strict about their ATM limits while I am withdrawing as much cash as possible.

        I’m worried about my two kids at home who are teenagers and what happens when the mandate hits them at the end of the month, and a third who will be hit in June when she turns 12.

        I’m worried about the H-man, who is still in employee mode (although working hard to set up his own businesses) and is experiencing SERIOUS pressure to get the vaccine. He’s 37 years old and whippet-thin and much more worried about side effects than Covid. (Probably because a dozen members of his family have had Covid and everybody is fine.)

        I’m worried that if this is ever over, I will never be able to look at my neighbors, friends, community, and extended family the same way again.

        • 1539days says:

          New York is pretty free with the COVID money, but they are also pretty free with the restricting of freedom. Who knows.

        • lateblum says:

          Hugs, for you and your family. I think I understand what you are going through wrt family and friends and pressure about the vaccine. As well as worrying about the relationships you may have with them after this finally ends.
          I had lots more to add, but it would distract from offering you the support you deserve. Just know if I could help you, I would. ❤️

          • jadzia1971 says:

            You are so sweet! I’m sure that many of us will be looking at our relationships in a new light when this is over.

  21. Dora says:

    ‘America doesn’t run on Tofu, it runs on real food’: Republicans tear into Biden administration’s plans to crack down on beef, poultry and pork industries to combat rising grocery prices

  22. taw46 says:

    Is anyone listening to this totalitarian speech from Biden? I had the shots in March, but I am totally against vaccine mandates. And mandatory testing, and vaccine passports, and all the other “rules” they come up with to control the citizens.

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    • lateblum says:

      I just finished vacuuming. Every time I heard Biden’s raspy voice, I turned the vacuum back on and found another room to vacuum. I have the cleanest rugs in the building now.
      The Commander in Chief has now taken those words to heart and become the Tyrant in Chief. Or is it the Dictator in Chief. He is more angry at the people who didn’t follow his ‘request’ to vaccinate, than he is at the Taliban who controlled the withdrawal in Afghanistan. (h/t twitterverse)

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      I had a documentary series on in the background while I work and an episode came on looking at the evidence the Hitler and Eva and/or some of their minions could have managed to escape and set up elsewhere. I have always given the push for the EU the side eye and although the Hitler/Eva is a bit out there it was always clear that numerous rats that managed to get off the sinking u-boot did not all go to South America. Today all I could think was they are in our state houses, congress and the White House and trying to finish the job the started almost a century ago and now they have China helping them out in the open.

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    • 1539days says:

      Biden needs a shot. That is all.

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      • jadzia1971 says:

        There is a lot of truth to this. I wonder what more I could have done to stop this trainwreck, or at least to soften the hearts of the people around me–or knock some sense into them. Dealer’s choice.

  25. Mothy67 says:

    So apparently a pivate business with 101 employees has to force employees to get the jab, but post office is exempt

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  28. Mothy67 says:

    Somehow is paying pantifa, will they have to be stabbed?

  29. lyn5 says:

    Angie has a lot of good RTs.

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    • Cisco says:

      Glad to see Barry the Lesser looking like “poo”.
      Almost as bad as “Cigar” Clinton.
      Of course poor sob has been married to Hillary, Wicked Witch of Everywhere. 👹

    • lateblum says:

      Couldn’t listen. His voice is intolerable. Just like Biden’s voice.

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    • jadzia1971 says:

      Macron said the same thing back in April. Interestingly, when I search for the quote on Bing, all I get are a bunch of articles about what a smashing success the vaccine passport has been.

      In any event, as I remember it (from seeing on the mainstream news at the time), Macron previously said something like, we will never create two classes of French citizens, we will never discriminate, referring to vaccinated versus unvaccinated.

  38. Mothy67 says:

    I’ve only watched Tucker today is anyone bringing up the fact that tens of thousands of illegals are being scattered across the country and relating that to increase in china flu?

    • Cisco says:

      Of course not M67.
      Its all us UNVAXXED that are the cause.
      It might just me but it seems that their being dumped in Texas & Florida disproportionately to other states.
      I think to embarrass their respective Governors who refuse JoeBamas mask & vaxx decrees.

    • lateblum says:

      Mentioned on FOX News. I don’t think Tucker qualifies as news. Brian Kilmead is all over it though.

  39. Helen Kenney says:

    Gutfeld! show tonight as good or better than last night. Interview with trump was great

  40. 1539days says:

    How far does Biden’s approval go down in the next 7 days?

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