Tuesday Open Thread

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  1. Dora says:

    Good Morning. Here’s Part 4!

  2. Cisco says:

    Another mysterious oil spill, this time Huntington Beach.
    Of course massive, so up goes the price of gas.

  3. Mothy67 says:

    Anyone having a problem with Fox freezing up? Been happening for a few weeks now. No other channels just Fox. Tried calling for verizon and get put on hold.

  4. threewickets says:

    Morning Dora, Cisco, Mothy.

    Crimson King is Harvard’s Teddy Roosevelt (patriarch of the spying Kennedys). Uncle Sam is Yale’s William H Taft (patriarch of the spying Bushes). Big Brother is Princeton’s PAV Woodrow Wilson (patriarch of the spying Kerrys). The American Malthusian Progressive Century. After college, I lived with a Bush and a Kerry. Guess I was the Kennedy. What are the odds. Below is young Taft (Facebook Michael Moon) … father to Cary Grant (Prescott Bush), grandfather to Marilyn Monroe, Herbert Bush, Ted Turner, George Clooney.

    • Cisco says:

      Early in the day but always hope for a good one.

    • threewickets says:

    • threewickets says:

      All of the above are Jesuits wearing masks. The very definition of elite. What about the “lapsed” Jesuits we call the French Ashkenazi who founded Modern Israel … are they Orange Catholics or Green Catholics? They are Rothschilds. Orange elite.

    • threewickets says:

      The Kagans, Liberaces, Maxwells, Mayers share much culturally and politically, but they are not the same family. The Kagans are Prescott Bushes. The Liberaces are from Soros who is from PAV Woodrow Wilson and Abby Greene … which (incredibly) makes them Kerrys too. The Maxwells are from PAV Woodrow Wilson and Golda Mayer. Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright are from Louis Mayer and Greta Garbo Bush. Michael Bloomberg is from Louis Mayer and Brooke Astor. Sheldon Bush was from Louis Mayer and Dorothy Walker. Lots of linkages, but the Mayers are not fundamentally Harvard, Yale, Princeton people. The Mayers more than anybody created Hollywood with a nascent CIA. The Mayers today more than anybody control the internet with the NSA-Pentagon. The people in your phones and laptops are the Mayer-Rothschilds who also control the Carlyle Fed. Don’t forget.

    • threewickets says:

      And El Teddy de la Mancha Roosevelt is actually Spanish Jesuit. And his son (via Vermont) Franklin D Roosevelt and Joseph P Kennedy are the same person. That’s how the Orange Scotch-Irish Kennedys are one with the lapsed-Jesuit French Ashkenazi Mayers. In purest form, the Carlyle Rothschilds are Kennedy-Mayers.

    • threewickets says:

      Obama’s dad is Jimmy Stewart and his dad is PAV Woodrow Wilson. Obama’s mom is Diana Ross and her dad is Joseph P Kennedy. I don’t know why that qualifies him for all the lying and fakery drowning America today. I blame that mostly on Soros Liberace and his son Tawana Clinton. Soros also comes from the pure sociopath PAV (Prince Albert Victor) Woodrow Wilson … known mainly as Big Brother and Citizen Kane William Randolph Hearst after the Treaty of Versailles.

  5. elliesmom says:

    I’ve been trying to keep track of what’s going on with these two “free” bills. One is for real infrastructure and the other is for anything and everything the Democrats have ever wanted that isn’t infrastructure? The Senate has passed the spending bill to rebuild our roads and bridges plus some boondoggles similar to Bridges to Nowhere and Trains to Places It’s Faster to Drive to satisfy DC’s hunger for pork, and they did it with votes from both sides of the aisle so they get to call it “bipartisan”. This bill has not yet been voted on in the House because the left of the left has insisted on tying its passage to the passage of the Not Infrastructure more expensive bill. So the House hasn’t voted on either bill yet?

    Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema have said they will not vote for the Not Infrastructure bill as written when it comes to the Senate floor leaving the Democrats two votes short- unless Romney, Murkowski, or Collins caves. But it’s Manchin and Sinema who are being harrassed so for now the triplets must be holding the party line securely.

    It appears Pelosi would have the votes to pass the Not Infrastructure Bill in the House, but since the critters know it’s dead in the water in the Senate, the critters who are insisting it’s both bills or neither one are saying they will vote against the Not Infrastructure Bill. They are refusing to vote on the Bridges and Roads one until the other one has passed first and until passage in the Senate of the Not Infrastructure Bill is guaranteed. Sinema and Manchin have both said they’d consider a scaled down Not Infrastructure Bill, and that’s where the conflict in the House lies?

    Into this mess comes the need to raise the debt ceiling. Both sides know both sides want it passed. McConnell knows the Democrats can pass raising the debt ceiling without a single Republican vote if they use the process called reconciliation. But the reconciliation process can only be used twice in a year, and the Democrats have already used it once. They don’t want to use reconciliation to raise the debt ceiling because they are going to need it to get these two multi-trillion dollar bills, in whatever form they finally take, to Biden’s desk to sign. So McConnell is keeping his half of the Senate in line on refusing to raise the ceiling. Without using reconciliation, Schumer needs 60 votes so the triplets are neutered.

    In this game of Screw the Taxpayers Pelosi has few choices. If she fails to herd the cats in this congress, then what might her last major job as Speaker of the House might go down in history as a major failure. If she strong arms either faction in the House, the Democrats could lose more seats in the midterms. Harrassing Sinema and Manchin in the Senate and risk losing the Senate might be a better option for her, but Schumer might not be good with that. Biden appears to be OK with it, though.

    Is my scorecard filling in right, or am I missing something?

    • Somebody says:

      That’s about how it shakes down. The Republicans already gifted the democrats by joining them in voting on the continuing resolution to keep government open, had they held the line there they’d be in a stronger position now. The public debate and discourse would be about opening government not whether spending 1.5, 2, or 3.5 trillion on mostly BS that will broaden government dependence is the right choice. BTW, the smaller “infrastructure” bill only contains roughly 20% of actual infrastructure including broadband for rural areas, the rest of it is mostly green new deal and liberal grift.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Nailed it em, 😀

    • lyn5 says:

      You should be a reporter–the real deal.

    • 1539days says:

      They’ve bee using the term “human infrastructure” because “social programs” have been revealed as a cash grab. Of the triplets, Collins voted yes on a Democrat budget because she was able to add tax cuts and reduce the price tag, so that option is on the table. The media is painting this as “progressives” vs. “conservative” Democrats in the hope that when they agree on a multi-trillion dollar mostly welfare bill, drooling Joe will be unifying hero.

  6. Miranda says:

    I love the tiny pumpkins in the lanterns, but I hope none of that straw gets in through the open top. Otherwise, there’s going to be a nice bonfire on that front porch 🙂

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  10. Dora says:

    Hiker Says He Has ‘No Doubt’ He Encountered Brian Laundrie on Appalachian Trail

    A hiker in Tennessee claimed that he saw Brian Laundrie, who is wanted by the FBI, near the Appalachian Trail near the North Carolina border on Saturday.


  11. Myiq2xu says:

  12. Cisco says:

    Incredibly stupid stupid shit.
    Im going to sacrifice a steer,steak, ribs
    & ground.
    That will keep the boogeyman away.
    Put a fan in the window, 🥶

    • threewickets says:

      The Sukarno ex told me “bogeyman” was the Dutch colonial name for the Bogey pirates of Sulawesi Indonesia, her ancestors. Course she trolls for Tawana, so she could have been making that shit up. Who knows.

    • lateblum says:

      When do the Hunger Games begin?

      • SHV says:

        It has already started in Chicago.

        “That shooting left one shooter dead and two of the suspects wounded and stemmed from an internal dispute between two gang factions, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.”
        (Crimeshia refused to file felony charges) because:

        “Mutual combatants was cited as the reason for the rejection.” Mutual combat is a legal term used to define a fight or struggle that two parties willingly engage in.

        IANAL but “mutual combatants” is a reason to reject an assertion of self-defense not of committing multiple firearms violations, aggravated battery, murder, etc. unless it’s now “Hunger Games” rules.

        • lateblum says:

          You’re right. And Crimeshia called a press conference today calling out Lightfoot’s interference and criticism. I do not know how or why the poc in Chicago aren’t in Complete revolt unless they think it unseemly that they aren’t 💯behind their “leaders” of color despite their wrong-doing and mishandling of these “games”.

        • Myiq2xu says:

          I’m for the old-school approach to gangsters vs gangster shootouts. Bury the losers and lock up the survivors.


  13. swanspirit says:

    From Don Surber

    ITEM 3: Newsweek reported, “Chinese labs in Wuhan purchased an increased quantity of coronavirus testing equipment several months before the first virus case was reported to the World Health Organization in December 2019, according to a new report.

    “New data procured by the Australian-U.S. cyber security firm Internet 2.0 found that there was a buy-up of polymerase chain reaction testing equipment (PCR) by nearly 50 percent throughout 2019. PCR tests are widely used to determine if an individual is infected with COVID-19 as it allows scientists to amplify DNA samples to check for disease or other genetic material.

    “According to the new findings, in 2019, there were 135 contracts containing PCR equipment issued by Wuhan laboratories, up from 89 in 2018 and 72 in 2017. Furthermore, financial investment on PCR equipment increased by nearly 600 percent from 2015 to 2019 in Wuhan, The Australian reported.

    “The increase in purchases began in May 2019, but became most significant in July—five months before the nation identified its first COVID-19 case to the WHO.”

    Xi knew.

    And if he knew, Fauci knew. The man is a criminal who should be charged with 600,000-plus cases of homicide.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      I will be so glad when this plandemic is over!
      I have never been so sick and tired of anything in my 84 years. 😡

  14. lyn5 says:

    For Swannie ….

  15. Dora says:

    Francis’ Swiss Guard Quit in Medical Mutiny

    VATICAN CITY (ChurchMilitant.com) – Three soldiers have quit and three have been suspended after the Vatican quashed a rebellion of conscientious objectors to coerced abortion-tainted jabs in the ranks of its prestigious Pontifical Swiss Guard.


    • threewickets says:

      Sterility jabs? Is that why the in-the-know people in West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, and Santa Monica index highest in the world for saying no to flu vaccines? Christ. The CIA are cock-blockers gone wild. Thank goodness I’ve already given away my frozen sperm lol.

      • threewickets says:

        People here and wherever using your trolls in town and the complex to pressure me to get the “shot” … I know who you are. I’m deciding whether or not I prefer natural immunity (as per my Manhattan years) to the pharma variety. I’ve tested negative for Covid twice, a likely third negative test earlier today. Back off please. You look like raging Klan bigots with Blade Runner fantasy boners. Don’t be that dickhead. I have a long memory. Soros Liberace and co did what they did ages ago. We move on.

  16. lyn5 says:

    It’s clear that Americans have figured out the truth about who pays, because politicians are shifting the goalposts. Elizabeth Warren shifted the conversation from what fraction of income the rich paid to what fraction of wealth they paid. President Biden has upped the ante by talking about taxing unrealized capital gains.

    This is unprecedented. The federal government has no constitutional authority to tax wealth, and never have unrealized gains been considered income – either in the realm of accounting or economics. An unrealized gain is simply an investment “in process.” What shows up as a gain today can easily turn into a loss tomorrow. Ask anyone who invested in Bitcoin in March 2021, or gold in August 2011, or housing in 2007. An investment’s tale isn’t told until the investor cashes out. Unrealized gains aren’t gains. They are hypotheticals.


  17. Mothy67 says:

    Making sure I am following allowing correctly. Xiden DOJ is going after parents at school board meetings for expressinhg concern, but an ILLEGAL alien can harass a sitting Senator in a bathroom and on a plane without arrest or deportatoin. Proggieism is an illness and a religion.

    • lyn5 says:

      Yep. Don’t you love sociopaths?

    • threewickets says:

      Mothy majored in sociopathy at Yale. Course that’s pretty much the only real curricula at the school. 😉

    • lateblum says:

      “ Proggieism is an illness and a religion.”
      This has never been more apparent than in some of my family members. Especially the ones who decry organized religion. It breaks me heart that the ones who I have given the most love will be the ones who ultimately turn their backs on me – or turn me in.

  18. threewickets says:

    A friendly reminder for anyone who cares. I don’t know how she (or her daddy) did it, but Croissant Lady Fred has me under her thumb. And I don’t mind.

  19. Mothy67 says:

    I came across an article about Jane Fonda. I was too young to know much about Hanoi Jane. I never hated her like my aunts and uncles who had had friends get drafted. My early education on Vietnam was from TV movies. I loved The China Syndrome. The article I read said she regretted her actions and that she had become very Christian. She refused to speak a line in Frankie & Grace or whatever the netflix show is called because her character had to say Jesus Christ. I was raised very very Catholic. Perplexes me how proggies who defend islamic blasphemy laws. Seriously proggies pretty much justified Charlie Hedbo terrorism because the mag hurt feelings. I grew up surrounded by religion. Lutheran and Cathocism. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. I cringe a little bit when I hear God damn or Jesus fucking Christ. I see it as a lack of respect for my faith. Not once in almost 55 years have I killed over blasphemy.
    Anyhow I was intrigued as to this Hollywood legend taking a stand on a netflix production who had acted in Klute, Barberella, Agnes of God. I read up on her imdb and wiki. Led me to Ted Turner.
    He too Wants to control population
    “In 2009 Turner met with other business moguls to include Oprah Winfrey, Bill Gates, George Soros and David Rockefeller to address issues ranging from the environment to healthcare. The group also addressed population growth with discussion of vaccines and immunization efforts being criticized due to the perception that decision making and public policy could be directed by a handful of elites. Although no formal statement was released, the event was covered by Paul Harris for The Guardian.[70]” – wikipedia
    It’s not conspiracy if it is true? Scary that they are forcing vax and I keep coming across billionaires advocating for it.

    • Mothy67 says:

      My niece, not brat, just did a rotation on maternity ward with I guess what they call Neonatal ICU. She dealt with premies. I don’t think she dealt with any babies that didn’t need more than some time to develop. She fell in love with the early born. Her abortion stance has changed. She was about choice, but personally against abortion. She has held babies born too early who in her few weeks of rotation grew to thriving babies She can’t imagine how someone can abort at 7 months — now. Not a clump of cells in her world. I have read too many moguls express population control through vaccination. Too many. My niece as a nursing student has been jabbed by Keebler Elf dictate at least twice to comply with university. We really have no idea how Mrna acts in the long run. What if it does effect fertility? My niece might not be able to concieve if conspiracy is true? She is nurturing. She literally chose a caregiving profession. We know nothing about a new bio technology. It’s been administered for less than a year. I am a paranoid? I’d rather be called a quack than take a risk on an experimental drug for a teen who has a 99.99 % of surviving kung flu. More kids drown in a pool than have died from covid. Should we ban all pools?

    • threewickets says:

      She’s a good actor. I like her. From Greenwich which is pretty much next to Rye. Good friend of Marilyn’s … they used to hang out on Facebook with the gang. Like all Rothschilds, she’s conservative in reality. But she left Ted Turner after faking 9/11.

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  22. Gram Krakka says:

    Good news if true.

    BREAKING NEWS: Lt Colonel Stuart Scheller is being released from military brig TODAY: Marine who was jailed for criticizing Afghanistan withdrawal will now go free after landslide of public support.


    • Helen Kenney says:

      wonderful news

    • Mothy67 says:

      I have mixed feelings on him. Can we should we allow a person serving the country to express themself on social media. When you enlist rights are different. Get out and speak your peace. I think he undermined military as much as Milley.

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  24. votermom says:

    Hair and makeup artist Marc Pilcher died of COVID-19 on Sunday at the age of 53. He was double vaccinated and had no underlying health conditions, according to his agency Curtis Brown.


  25. Dora says:

  26. Somebody says:

    A little bit of positive news, you all know Florida’s First Lady Casey DeSantis was diagnosed with breast cancer. Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz tweeted prayers for Casey and told her as a breast cancer survivor herself that the sisterhood of cancer knows no party, feel free to call her for advice/support. The two democrats hoping to run against DeSantis also reached out with prayers and best wishes.

    So many on the left can often be so nasty, it was nice to see their civility with Casey DeSantis.

  27. elliesmom says:

    Monday I’m going into the lion’s den. It’s that time of year when a lot of my college girlfriends return to New England to do some “leaf peeping”. Not much foliage to see yet this year, but they are enroute. The one who lives in CT volunteers to host every year “because she has so many food allergies she only feels comfortable eating at home”. She unfriended me on FB about a year ago because I very politely asked her to stop posting political stuff on my timeline. I’m actually a little surprised I’m still on the guest list. I thought about offering to host the party myself this year, but when you’re the hostess, you can’t tactfully excuse yourself and leave. Those of us who aren’t in hotels have volunteered to bring some of the food. If I thought the bitch would eat anything someone else made, I’d bring something that had something she says gives her diarrhea hidden in it. I don’t think she’s really allergic to anything. I think she just makes a big deal out of refusing to eat what anyone else makes to get attention. Her husband always winks at me and takes her serving. I don’t take it personally. I just don’t cater to her anymore. But because I would really like to see my friends who are coming from Texas, Florida, and South Carolina, I will make a quiche and trek over the state line. My Texas friend says she’ll bring enough duct tape for the two of us. 🙂

  28. Mothy67 says:

    Kindle won’t let me respond upthread about emmy winner. He was double dosed and had tested negative for covid before Emmy’s. He was 53. I know nothing about this guy, but I know lots of men living many years with HIV. They are lucky enough to work at my age in careers where no one will order them to take a jab. They are living long and full lives on some miracle drugs. All are hesitant to get jabbed. Admittedly I know nothing about how auto immune disease drugs work, but I have haerd fear that Mrna results in the body zeroing in on something with a spike protein. I know not shit about how Aids drugs work, but apparently some make the HIV virus undectable. There is a lot of concern from people I know that something untested might conflict with the meds they are taking. How much research was done on those scenarios? How will the jab interact with a variety of meds. No one can convince me they know at this point. What about herbal meds. There are just too many unknowns. PrEP is something a lot of gay youth take. How would a drug that blocks HIV interact with an Mrna? Could they conflict? Who has died in the hospitals? Mamy diabetics are on powerful drugs. How much time was spent studying how the 20 different type 2 drugs interect with a powerful jab? There are just too many questions about a drug for a disease with a very low mortality rate to require kids and every college student to get a stab. It all seems insane to me!?!?!

    • elliesmom says:

      Anybody else who attended the Emmys get covid? Other than the masked servants who don’t count?

      • Mothy67 says:

        Thus far not that I have heard. They say he was regularly tested and was negative when he flew from UK to L.A. long flight that must tax the body. He came back and was dead from covid in a month. Who knows what made him vulnerable. He only looked slightly overweight. He could have had a host of underlying illnesses. Why was he getting regularly tested if he had double jab. I can see Emmy”s doing on site rapid tests, but if he returned to London and got a sniffle why didn’t he get tested and if he did how did he succumb so fast? I just don’t buy the story.
        Do you know of a not complicated quiche recipe? I haven’t had it in 30 plus years. I remember liking it. Quiche Loraine? It disappeared off menus sometime in the 80’s along with baked Alaska and Chicken Kiev. I think it I really liked it. Egg pie? I looked at a bing search. So many recipes. I don’t necessarily need quick or easy ( might opt for pre made crust though).

        • elliesmom says:

          I have a deep tart pan with a removable bottom I use to make quiche in because it’s a fancy presentation, but you can make it in any 9″ pie pan or a springform cake pan. The egg base is 2 cups of light cream and five large eggs. Whisk them together. Whether you add salt or not depends on what you’re putting in the quiche. Salt if it’s a veggie quiche, no salt if you’re adding bacon or ham. Add a dash of pepper. After you have the crust in the pan, cover the bottom with whatever you’re adding to the quiche. Lorraine is bacon, onions, and Swiss cheese. The bacon should be pre-cooked. You need about 2 cups of shredded cheese, but you can put in how much bacon or onion you want. Pretty much any kind of pre-cooked meat or veggies can go in a quiche and any kind of shredded cheese. The fun part of making quiche is all of the combinations you can come up with. Then pour the egg and cream mixture over the top. Put the quiche on a pan in case it bubbles over and bake it at 350 for 55 min to an hour. It should be slightly browned on top and a knife inserted in the middle should come out clean.

          There are lots of good recipes for pie crust. I like Julia Child’s best. Martha Stewart, King Arthur flour, Ina Garten all have good recipes. Some are easier than others. But the Pillsbury All-Ready Pie Crusts in the dairy case aren’t bad. The frozen ones aren’t usually deep enough for quiche.

  29. lyn5 says:

    • lyn5 says:

      Sharyl AttkissonMan @SharylAttkisson

      In Loudoun Co. VA, it was the other side threatening to “infiltrate,” create fake accounts, harass parents they thought oppose Critical Race Theory…
      Americans have the right to express an opinion or protest peacefully without being labelled terrorists.

      • lateblum says:

        In Tennessee, a woman who voiced her opinion about what the schools are teaching was suspended from her job after being reported by the school bd and expects to lose her job. I don’t know the entire story, but I read some yesterday. If I can find it, I’ll post it.

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  31. Mothy67 says:

    I looked at buying full size candy bars for Halloween. My Sam’s club let’s me look at last years purchases. It’s about 6 dollars more a box for 30 bars/per
    of Hershey’s with Almonds. Quite a hike. I usually buy 3 large boxes and one snack size and a box of assorted chips. I make one box Almond Joy cause few kids take and until last year I loved almond joy. The chocolate tasted really cheap. This year I am buying chocalate covered pretzels from local great shop. I’ll buy enough to give to the kids on my block. They do retail, but it is destination here for holidays. Sarris Chocolates is da bomb. They have taken a hit because of covid. It will cost me around the same, but I am going to give neighbors hand crafted chocolate pretzels and buy a box of mini bars for imps I have never seen before. Found this on Walmart
    I can support a local business during tough times and hand out mini’s to kids I have never seen before. Kids from the city flood my town because Halloween is often celebrated on different nights.
    Ever looking for tasty hand made chocolate Sarris is amazing.

  32. Dora says:

    Remember Him?


    Dark Money Dems Use Fake Newspaper To Influence Virginia Election

    David Brock uses liberal media outlet to target voters, skirting campaign finance law


  33. Dora says:

    It Begins: Federal Investigators Are Issuing Warrants for Google to Turn Over Anyone Typing in Certain Search Terms


  34. 1539days says:

    Here’s something the NIH forgot to scrub.
    A “leaky” or imperfect vaccine can initially stop illness, but turns the vaccinated into incubators for more virulent strains.

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  36. Angie says:

    Two excellent tweets from that hellhole of a site that I just can’t quit. 🤣🤣🤣

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  39. Helen Kenney says:


    think about this and what is happening in our education system and how parents became domestic terrorists.

  40. Helen Kenney says:


    also think about this in the criminal justice system of the country and what is going on now.

    this evil old man owns the democratic party and will bring down this country if he can with their help

  41. jadzia1971 says:

    ZeroHedge can be a bit iffy, but I reviewed their French-language (governmental) sources and the story checks out: French senate wants to make vaccination mandatory for EVERYBODY starting January 1. 135 euros for refusing, 1500 if you refuse 3 times. Also 135 for each kid under your parental authority, and 1500 if you refuse 3 times for each kid. So I’m looking at a bill of 7500 euros. Which I do happen to have, so fuck them.


    • lateblum says:

      Keep fucking them, jadzia. This stinks! I’m waiting for hard consequences for me from the govt as well.
      Now for the news… it’s re-election time in Illinois and guess who is now having his minions claim that due to his mask/vax mandates and directives the numbers of new Covid cases is dropping precipitously… yup asshat GovJBPritzker. Now he is lessening the consequences to private schools for their mask policies, decreasing the length of quarantine to public school children (from 14 to 10 days).There’s probably more, but I stopped listening when my head exploded. 🤯🤬😡💥
      And it wouldn’t surprise me one moment of my baby brother, his wife, my dil, her mother, and thousands of others are buying this hook, line, and sinker. Whoever said “Covid has become a religion” was right on target.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        I know it’s annoying, LB, but realistically I think this path is our only way out of this mess. The folks in power have let this go way too far to turn back unless they do it in a way that allows them to save face–ie, declaring victory and moving on.

        And at this point, I don’t even care. Yeah, it would be emotionally satisfying to see some of these guys swing (metaphorically speaking), but I think losing the masks and mandates is the best we (you–I think europe is lost) can hope for.

    • 1539days says:

      After reading about Marek’s disease and leaky vaccines, I don’t want to contribute to creating a perpetual superbug. I have enough money to not work for three years and I hate my job. Bring on the mandates.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        Yeah, I’m with you. I am in the fortunate position of working for a business I co-own that is not located in the EU and has no ties here other than my butt in the chair. There is really nothing that these guys can do to me short of imprisonment.

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