Weekend Open Thread

Scarecrow Festival 2008, Morton Aboretum, Lisle, Illinois

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249 Responses to Weekend Open Thread

  1. Dora says:

    Good Morning.

    Catchy, isn’t it?

  2. Dora says:

    This didn’t post properly downstairs. Giving it another try.

    ===

    Steve Bannon: ‘I stand with Trump and the Constitution’

    https://populist.press/steve-bannon-says-stand-trump-tells-jan-6-committee-not-comply-subpoena-html/

    • taw46 says:

      The truth is all that matters. Nothing will be right until the real, elected President is sworn in to office. Trump speaks truth here:

      ‘The Unselect Committee of partisan Democrats, and two very weak and pathetic RINOs, should come to the conclusion after spending many millions of dollars, that the real insurrection happened on November 3rd, the Presidential Election, not on January 6th – which was a day of protesting the Fake Election results,’ the ex-president claimed in an interview with Sean Hannity.

  3. DeniseVB says:

    When I saw this downstairs, I wished so badly EM was with these students and hold Kamalas arms at her side 😀

    • taw46 says:

      • elliesmom says:

        You can see the craters on the moon with “your own eyes” just by looking up. A pair of binoculars would be sufficient to get an even better look. Galileo found the moons of Jupiter with the equivalent of a paper towel tube and a couple of simple lenses. A “telescope” my 13 year olds built themselves every year and came back to school at night to use. This would have been so much better if she had asked the girls what they were hoping to see. Engage them in a conversation, and then see if the observatory could make it happen for one of them. I realize this was a photo op and not a teaching session, but it would have made a better photo op if they had worried less about diversity and found a group of “girl nerds” who were excited about using a good telescope, and then let them do it with Kamalaladingdong in the middle of their excitement. In order to take my 125 kids out at night, I needed to schedule 5 different viewing sessions. By the 5th the excitement had spilled over from the previous 4, and I had parents calling to see if they could come back. This photo op was boring, and it showed with the kids. 🙂

        • elliesmom says:

          With my high school kids we did an experiment in class where the kids figured out the smallest crater on the moon they could see with their naked eyes. Then they went outside with a sketch pad and drew what they saw, and using a map of the moon labeled the craters they had drawn. At the end of the year that was one of the “labs” a lot of kids rated as their favorite. My “sweathog” class would have had a field day with Miss Disney Princess and her “with your very own eyes”. 🙂

        • swanspirit says:

          It was boring because it was really about her, not the stars, not the kids, not “education” If there is one thing a kid can spot, it’s a phony. And she is so fake it’s cringe worthy.

          • taw46 says:

            Yes, fake she is! Poor kids, but unfortunately they will encounter people like that throughout their lives. Lord knows I have known and worked with a few like her, lol.

        • Constance says:

          It’s really amazing and undeniable how emotion photographs. I can’t understand how people who arrange photo-ops don’t understand this. Seriously no one in the publicity department could look at that Kamala clip and see it’s an abject failure? I even notice it in photographs of me. My face looks unremarkable unless I’m photographed interacting with someone I love and then I take a good picture. That’s why every ones drivers license looks horrible no matter how much make up they wear.

  4. elliesmom says:

    I watched Kamalalaladingdong’s video with the young girls. If you noticed, it was created by Sinking Ship Productions. (You can’t make this stuff up.) My walkaway was she has obviously never been around kids. Emhoff’s kids were in high school when he introduced them to her, and according to Harris, she brought them a ribboned box of cookies. The one thing you don’t do when you talk to teens is treat them like they’re in nursery school. Her “coach” should have had her spend some time talking with kids who were willing to give her some brutally honest feedback. After my first Scout meeting with my teens, one of the girls commented the troop had aged 10 years from one meeting to the next. I really felt bad for the kids who were used as her props.

    • 1539days says:

      Even the Democrat voters couldn’t stand her. I still think in 2008, the plan was for Obama to be Joe’s (or Hillary’s) running mate, but his campaign staff were able to push enough people out of the way for Obama himself to get the nomination. Remember, Bill was going after Obama hard and Hillary told him to knock it off.

      This time, Harris couldn’t fake it like Obama and Biden was the front runner by default. So, the 2008 plan came back and Kamala gets closer to the White House and waits until her likability goes up enough for Biden to have a serious illness.

      • Anthony says:

        Her liability will never go up. People respond to one thing and one thing only: authenticity. She comes across like a well designed ventriloquist’s dummy being manipulated by a four year old

      • Constance says:

        Biden was doing terrible in the primaries and caucuses until he hit SC and then they successfully rigged it for him. Mush for brains Biden is the choice of the Cabal who runs our country with the authority to tax us and make them rich. They are so out of touch they see Kamala as some sort of paint by numbers consolation prize to women Libs most of whom are too stupid to notice.
        There is a mistake Republicans just keep making. There are a lot of really stupid people in the world and they can vote. Republicans ignore stupid people. In the old days not so many stupid people could vote because you had to figure out where to vote, register to vote ahead of time and actually show up at the right time. Now the ballot comes whether you are interested or not and you can sell it for $50. to the nearest Democrat operative. Republicans don’t give people anything to believe in. Trump knows how to put emotion into his movement.

    • DeniseVB says:

      It’s as though they sent her to Disney Princess School, lol. It’s all about using your arms to convey all things magical 😀

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        I commented on the last post but it was probably right before this one was up. Kami seems to have the same coaching as Princess Sparkles. Except, so far, she is not dragging her dim to max hubby out thinking it makes her look good by comparison.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Sparkles and Kamala will never be likable, it’s not in their DNA 😀 We are also begging Sparky to let us give her much needed privacy, but she just won’t let us.

  5. Mothy67 says:

    Reposting from downstairs
    Forgiving

  6. Miranda says:

    They just had a scarecrow festival episode of Midsomer Murders 🙂

    Toad-strangler of a rain storm going on, so it’s housework day.

  7. Angie says:

    Utter incompetence but funny as hell.

  8. Mothy67 says:

    I ran into a couple last night who wanted to rehash 1983. He broke a bone or two of my person in another century. He loved my dad. Yipppee. I guess when my dad tired of breaking my nose it was nice to have back up. I don’t care. So what if people pissed on my face 40 years ago. We are here now. We have kids. Let’s just do right by them. I was cursed with being the prettiest in high school. I had to wash dishes at 16. It happened. I had eyes Liz said were stunning. By Liz I mean Taylor. Long before I met her I had lost boys breaking me.
    Where should I have gone? MSNBC host? I don’t hate idiot boys from 1983. They were kids who did dumb shit. They loved my father – he gave them all jobs at grocery store. One day I left The Fountain Head in the trash my dad read it. Then he went to library and got everything by Aycharge . We talked a lot in his living years. His sister, my Aunt Maureen, has gone to Brooklyn to see my gay cousin in a shit play. I said why didn’t you call me. I could get backstage. No one who knows me would charge you for dinner. My dad’s sister, he had pneumonia. They wanted to kill my dad. He coached three years of softball. I told Aunt Maureen get out of my way. I asked her why she supported my cousin and in the 80’s not me. She said I scared her. What fun but there is always Dolly

  9. Cisco says:

    Bwhhaaaa!
    SWISS GUARDS are quitting because the refuse to take the Pope’s mandatory jab.
    Just 3 or 4 at this time but I suspect more will.

  10. Dora says:

    Jabbed Jesuits Catch COVID, Suffer Brain Clots

    Dean in coma as virus hits fully vaxxed Pontifical Gregorian University

    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/jabbed-jesuits-catch-covid-suffer-brain-clots

  11. foxyladi14 says:

    Lots of dirty people are getting,
    Fifthly rich over this Scamdemic. 😡

  12. DeniseVB says:

    I got kinda hung up on the Disney Princess wavy arms, so I found a video of all of them on parade, gotta hand it to Disney and the WOW factor. Yes, I watched the whole thing…….

  13. Mothy67 says:

    Oh it just spins and spins
    I have been a big fan of Amy Grant since early high school. Baby, baby is such a happy song. Why do progs hate being happy? Friend Gail from high school who is in attorney texted me with attacks about my self hate. I bought ten tickets to Amy Grant and said on me anyone who wants to go. Months ago. She texted me today. The concert was in August.
    How do you not want to skip when you hear Baby, baby. There is nothing political.

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  16. elliesmom says:

    I frequently get “earworms”. I don’t know how I got this one today. I know the cure is to play the whole thing through in my head.

    • Miranda says:

      When I was watching Midnight Mass, I had Neil Diamond’s ‘Holly, Holy’ playing non-stop in my head for 3 days.

      • Mothy67 says:

        I lurve Neil Diamond. Shilo? Come on. Forever in Blue Jeans? I also like Barry Mani!ow.
        People laugh at my vinyl. I have everything by led Zep but also Streisand.

        • Miranda says:

          I like Neil Diamond too, but not continuously in my head. Barry’s all right with me 🙂

          Whoever did Midnight Mass also liked Neil.

    • Constance says:

      That’s a great song to get stuck in your head.

    • jadzia1971 says:

      I find that the best way to rid oneself of an earworm is to pass it on.

  17. Mothy67 says:

    I am needy needy needy
    Someone should ask who my favorite writer was who wrote to rue the past is to negate the future. Three guesses first four don’t count. I wrote it.

  18. lateblum says:

    Let’s talk about a job well done, shall we?
    /s

  19. Dora says:

    DARK AGES Lebanon plunges into total darkness as ENTIRE country without light, heat or energy in mass blackout amid fuel crisis

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/3824729/lebanon-blackout-no-power-light/

  20. Mothy67 says:

    I had a conservation. A whopper. Some times I think I am on the spectrum. Shit just comes out of my mouth. I don’t deny what I say but sometimes I need more tact. My mothers car needs brakes for inspection. It’s been two weeks. I refuse to buy a pack of smokes for 10 dollars. I walked to cigarette store. I picked up food on my way back. Dog food. Heavy. I was cranky. I walked by this young couple with one of the feel good signs in the yard. I’ve walked by them a thousand times. They live four houses away. I let my feelings known. Oops.Maureen and Sean. Maureen has a twin gay brother who likes Trump. Their mother put the sign in the yard. Remember Emily Matella (spelling?) from original SNL? Emily LItella violins on television versus violence on tv. Oh never minf!?!?!

  21. Helen Kenney says:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/10/schools_out__for_the_marxists.html

    this is really a great thing for America, start fighting for our kids

  22. Helen Kenney says:

    most popular song in DC

  23. Helen Kenney says:

    https://canadafreepress.com/article/billionaires-try-to-shrink-worlds-population

    explains their stand on abortion and vaccines. too bad they did not use retroactive abortion on each other

    • Constance says:

      Since the Cabal are obviously not opposed to using propaganda they don’t need to actively kill people. Just propaganda the weak minded into giving up their fertility. Remember when the government of India offered free little radios to ignorant people to have vasectomies? We have some serious sociopaths that have gained a lot of money and influence. I’m not sure where to attack them first. I think removal of their Information gatekeeping capacity by supporting Gab, Telegram, Proton mail, Bitchute, Rumble, Getter, etc is a really good start.

      • lateblum says:

        How are you feeling, Constance? Did you get your Covid test?

        • Constance says:

          I did and it’s negative. They say I have the flu. I am still weak but much better, I can breathe well, no fever and I stayed awake all day. I’m sold on the Ivermectin. That stuff is a miracle for viral respiratory infections. I had pneumonia in my left lung when I was 30 and it gets really clogged and draggy when I get the flu and I think I’m going to get by without that this time. It is a crime that they are keeping this from The People.

  24. foxyladi14 says:

    Trump Rally Iowa. Live now. 😀

  25. Mothy67 says:

    Some days the absurdity just gets better and better.
    I feed the “boy” all the time. He drove by me with his mom as I was carrying two cases of dog food they didn’t stop
    I ordered 77 dollars in chocolate covered pretzels. Best treat ever. 75 was to get free shipping. 12.95 for 6 shipping. I figured they’d make nice stocking stuffers. I want to give nice treats to the kids I know in the area. It has been a rough two years. Box was supposed to arrive on the 21st. It came yesterday. My mom and Shayla each ate a package and then blamed the other. For real my77 year old mom told me she stole pretzels but it was Shayla’s fault. Shay said it was GG’s fault. I got pizza tonight. My mom said those pretzels would make a nice desert. Case was 77 dollars. It is hardly gold. Eat a pretzel I can get more. They are really good enough to turn the two women in my life into criminals. I asked Shay who did what. She confessed she used the knife to open the box but says my mom put her up to it. Tears run down my face in laughter. Chocolate covered pretzels?!?!?!?!?! Best I’ve ever had https://www.sarriscandies.com/

    • Mothy67 says:

      Imprison me now in a mental health unit. I am beyond insanity laughing. I asked Shay how it went down. The package came. They spent about 60 seconds trying to ignore a crate of chocolate covered pretzels. They were co conspirators. Both knew not to open. It was addressed to me. Shay says my mom sent her to get a knife. Regardless they opened it. Now they are lying on each other over pretzels? It was 77 d.dollars for a yuuuge box. Its been a different few years. I wanted to give the kids I know something decent on Halloween. Sarris is the best. It was 12.95 shipping for 6. Free at 75. I have to buy a ton of token gifts. I figured throwing a pretzel in a coffee cup hurts nobody. 77 dollars is not that much. My mother and Shay have full access to my credit cards. Neither ever abuses but they hid eating a pretzel? I think they had fun.

  26. Helen Kenney says:

    Australia used to be one of the places I wanted to see before I died. not now. what the hell happened to these people?

    https://nalert.blogspot.com/2021/10/this-is-australian-police-pulling.html

    • Underwhelmed says:

      We got complacent, and now we’re paying the price.

      • lateblum says:

        Are there ordinary people down there who think this is okay? I mean, besides politicians.

        • Underwhelmed says:

          There are many vocal people speaking out against it, but only a handful of politicians. The ruling class is irredeemably corrupted in every part of the world. Foolishly we thought we were isolated or immune. But we’re not, and now we’re finding out the very hard way that those to whom we entrusted our freedoms have sold them, as they sold their own souls. Where this will end I do not know. We have multiple lawsuits going at the moment against various politicians and government departments. The perfidy of our elected politicians is pervasive and supported by an equally corrupt, corrupted and corrupting media. Most disheartening of all, the willingness of people to sell their own souls to beg back freedoms the government never had the right to abrogate. Every day I pray that the danger of these experimental drugs has been exaggerated. But I fear they’re not. The latest stats out of Singapore are horrifying and seem to indicate another holocaust awaits us, a medical holocaust that will remake the world. Like I said, I hope I’m wrong. I’ll be thrilled if I’m wrong. So that’s what I’m praying for.

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    • Miranda says:

      I got the vaccine, but all the surrounding crap makes me wish I hadn’t sometimes.

    • jadzia1971 says:

      I can absolutely understand it as a reaction that isn’t purely, as he suggests, oppositional and defiant. The mandates are like the sleazy, overbearing, overselling used-car guys of the medical system. The harder they push, the more uneasy I become, feeling like there is something about this that just isn’t right.

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  31. Mothy67 says:

    I want to go.
    I am so tired. I can’t ever sleep.
    Shay told me she saw me fall drunk today. I haven’t left my room. So she is angry enough to lie. I have no caring left. I just want to be done. I don’t want rehab. I am so sick of me. Rehab does not work. I wake up shaking and hide 750 lm of vodka. I drink three a day. I violently throw up when there is blood in my alcohol system. I’m done. I saw it coming. I had a good run. Fuck the fuck Shayla. I can’t injure my brat not like that. So I guess instead of suicide I will try rehab yet again. If they take me

    • votermom says:

      Mothy, I will pray for you right now. You can do this, for Shayla. One day, one hour at a time.

    • Constance says:

      Yes, go to rehab. But just be clear you can’t hide your drinking. You aren’t fooling anyone but you. Shay still loves you that is why she confronted you. I will pray for you too. You don’t have to stop drinking so Shay will love you, you need to stop drinking so you can love you.

    • Cisco says:

      Mothy67
      “The time has has come the walrus said, to speak of many things…..of cabbages & kings…”
      I’m an alcoholic, I’ve tried to beat it solo, can’t afford rehab.
      If I may, I understand your suffering.
      24 pack of brew & 1.75L of liquor, don’t want to advertise but that’s my “drug’s” of choice, another lost week.
      If I wasn’t under the influence right now l wouldn’t even mention this.
      “No caring left”?
      I’ve stood at the edge of the abyss, but stepped back.
      No excuse, its a disease, I too can’t beat it, perhaps because I don’t want to.
      Lotsa shit I want to forget…you too?

      • Cisco says:

        Going “underground”, embarrassed that I used CH as a confessional.
        Tried to delete last comment, but alas, the internet is forever.
        Unless one is a conservative 🤣

      • Mothy67 says:

        Please don’t let shame make you a cripple. I have a passport stamped in shame. I never want to see another suffer. It can be hard to find a new way. My number is (412) 265-7589. I can arrange rehab with good people. Just ring.

      • Helen Kenney says:

        the first step is the hardest, admitting it, you have taken that step. it is a very brave thing to do. now just keep walking, fast or slow, does not matter. you can do this ,you have friends here.that will be with you on the journey

        • Helen Kenney says:

          PS there will be stumbles but you can pick yourself up and continue taking the steps to a great life

    • swanspirit says:

      Go. Do it for you. Keep coming back. We love you. Shay loves you. Go for it.

    • lateblum says:

      Your suffering is apparent. Please try rehab. People here care and support you.

      • Constance says:

        And the thing about people saying rehab doesn’t work….. Well it works for awhile. Like any other disease you might need to take the cure again. Much like I’m over the flu now. The medicine worked for now but it might not cover me for my whole life. I might get flu again and then I will feel terrible again and need to take medication again. Don’t worry about it.

        • Mothy67 says:

          I don’t think I can ever be sober. My brain would crack in half. I need to handle being a drunk. I did it for decades. I don’t break laws. I hit no one. Shay lied about me falling. I have been with her since 2006. I know when she fibs. She lied. That is okay. We were watching some dumb show. Empire State of Mind by JZ and Alicia Keys came on. I said I might have authored a few lines. I got no credit.Not sure if I contributed anything. Boy and Shay called me on it. I called Alecia. I was born January 25, 1967. Keys January 25,1981. I lived in Hell’s Kitchen. She was a baby. We celebrated birthdays together. Boy was like you really can call Alexis Keys. I am going to remain silent about how many Sweat Hogs I screwed.

          • Constance says:

            The problem with rehab is they want you to absolutely stop drinking. It just might not be the choice you can live with. Cousin Bill couldn’t but he gave up guilt and trying to hide the situation so he minimized the destruction. But you need to be able to sleep and to not shake or fall down and rehab should help you with that. I see this as being the same as my being overweight. I know I should eat two eggs and nothing else for breakfast, a controlled salad with 3 oz lean protein for lunch, 4 ounces lean meat and vegetables for dinner, all the time and never eat a cream stuffed chocolate doughnut again. It’s not going to happen. So I am not acting in my own best health interest. And that is the way its going to be. But I try to keep it in control and not continue gaining weight. It seems like you want to strike a happy medium. I believe most of the time it should work. But don’t deceive the people who love you and when they seek out your company don’t give out negative reinforcement unconsciously.

          • Mothy67 says:

            There are lots of questions once I detox. Do I want to be sober. What kind of life would that mean. I’ve always been a freak. Can I be sober and be Tim. I was mostly sober building Shay. Things got worse during lockdown. I drank a gallon of vodka a then it became two. I started shaking and wanted to quit. I have drank mouthwash to stop shakes.I know how awful that is. I have had Listerine so as to not have a sieze. That is bad. I know where I am. I can’t fix me. Another rehab. What will change this time? I’ve made attempts. I fail. I could never hurt my family. I tried, I fail at creating accidents. I live every time I try. Harold and Maude. Of course I know Cat Stevens. What misfit does not know Yusuf.

  32. votermom says:

    Retry

    • Somebody says:

      Very interesting, that’s where hubby worked. It’s an enroute center, they’re not talking about the airport in the city of Jacksonville. The enroute center covers airspace across multiple SE states and into the Atlantic and Gulf.

      Hubby will have to make some calls and see what he can find out.

    • Constance says:

      Thanks for posting this. There is a media black out and that shows how important they think this is. Organized resistance by professional level people. The threat to the Cabal is real, Let’s go Brandon!

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  34. Angie says:

    Amen.

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  37. Constance says:

    Oh great. Turns out many members of Congress were treated for Covid-19 with Ivermectin. It’s cheap, it’s effective and drug companies can’t make a mega profit off of it.
    https://welovetrump.com/2021/10/08/were-members-of-congress-treated-for-covid-19-with-ivermectin/?utm_source=website_link_trending1

    • elliesmom says:

      The ban on Ivermectin hasn’t ever had anything to do with its safety or effectiveness. It’s all about the Emergency Use Authorizations for the vaccines, If Ivermectin becomes a standard treatment for covid, all of the US based vaccines get pulled off the market until they pass the standard tests for safety. That’s at least four more years of testing away. The folks in congress have more info on Ivermectin than we do so, of course, they’re gong to use it themselves, It’s like insider trading,

      u

      • lateblum says:

        It is and has always been about power, control, and $$$.

      • Constance says:

        Well they could have gotten together and written an exception for the shots but they didn’t. I still want someones to hang for this. All the Covid dead and they didn’t just drop dead they wheezed and choked and suffered for weeks. The morons in charge need to hang as an example to other power mad bureaucrats.

  38. Dora says:

  39. Cisco says:

    👿meets😈

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  41. Gram Krakka says:

    OK, how long is the above troll going to be allowed to insult, pollute, and violate the Klown’s house? Get a wicker basket and haul wickets off to the looney bin. Enough with the gay bashing lunatic ramblings.

    • elliesmom says:

      We’re working on it.

    • votermom says:

      three wickets has been blocked from commenting

    • Mothy67 says:

      To be clear. I do not care about a post which may be seen as rude my skin is a bit thicker than a random insult. I even, three sheets to the wind, take responsibility for whatever I spill from my silly yapper. I have zero issue admitting I love being blotto drunk. I never want a glass of wine. I want four bottles. I can drink a guy three times my size under the table. I have a yuuuuuuuge tolerance. Not denying my damage. It is all on me, but lock downs made it easier to be worse. I have always been highly functioning. I didn’t drink alone before the apocalypse. I went to bars and had one to many. Sitting at home alone I have ten to many. I don’t know where I am going with this. I break no laws. Don’t beg for food. Bills get paid. I die oh well I won’t be the first. I don’t want to be sober. I annoy me. Spending the rest of my life with myself without Jim Beam sounds arduous. I can’t be touched. Sounds so Holden Caulfield freak zone. I don’t yell don’t touch me. Please I pray I am not that cliche. I am hyper aware when touched. It doesn’t hurt per se. Hyper awareness. Yeah I have watched tv. So bizarre that I found this site. Steven Stayner. I Know my First Name is Steven. I puked hard like blood coming out of my eyes when I watched. Klown is from Merced. I have had more sex with women than most straight guys. I’ve done my share of men. Not once was I sober. I can’t be touched unless I am bombed. It stings. Drinking is medication. I am only half idiot. I don’t know where I want to go from here. Death does not scare me. Shay knows me I sobered up to tend to her and I did well. Hurting my mom would be worse. I don’t want to cause any more pain. It blows chunks when you know your existence hurts the ones you love.

      • elliesmom says:

        You might not care what others say about you, but we do. And we’d like the chance to get to know you sober and at least 80 years old. ❤

      • Locked-N-Loaded says:

        Sending lots of virtual hugs (they don’t sting) and many prayers!!

      • Gram Krakka says:

        I don’t feed trolls by directly replying to them. You may be strong enough to handle the abuse, others may not. You’ve often written about being bullied and abused as a youth. You don’t need to put up with bullying here.

        Speaking up for you now has shut this troll down. The personal attacks were escalating. I’m aware of three people targeted in the last couple of days. Who’s next?

        This troll will probably be back soon with a new name. Watch out.

      • Constance says:

        My Mom was alcoholic and my cousins and I took care of my cousin Bill, who drank himself to death. When we located him he was living in his car which was parked in the liquor store parking lot and he was happy as hell. For the record we all love and miss Bill he may have been the most enjoyed family member. We reminisce about him and the times when we all cared for him when we get together. My Mom was of course My Mom and there is only one Mother. Your existence doesn’t cause pain Mothy. For me, with my Mom, the pain and anger was that I couldn’t understand that she would choose to be drunk over being with me. Of course I was a teen and was growing away from home so she couldn’t predict when I would be there looking for her like she could when I was young. And also there is the issue of her going to great pains to hide the drinking. It was like a sick game she seemed to enjoy and it felt dishonest and made the relationship feel untrustworthy. I mean do I look stupid?
        Another issue of alcoholic relationships I think, is simply reward/deterrent behavioral theory. So when you are seeking to interact with your alcoholic you don’t get the consistent reward that you received before their habit took over. When you seek out your alcoholic parent instead of the love, happy expression, good vibes, conversation, reward you were seeking you receive a deterrent as in strange vibes, little conversation and the experience is a deterrent to seeking them out. Repeat this 20 times and a relationship is soured and no longer something you seek out.
        Another thing I have heard from a lot of relatives of alcoholics is they view alcoholism as slow motion suicide and they can’t watch and are angry that they are expected to. I don’t really see this as a valid point because we are all dying and we all do things that don’t tend to extend our life span. I mean Bill just said “I like drinking, I intend to continue drinking, I’m grateful for all your help.” He continued drinking a fifth of Wild Turkey a day (and anything else he could get his hands on) until he died at age 68 and didn’t make excuses.

        • lateblum says:

          This was painful, Constance. ❤️

          • Constance says:

            Oh, I guess so. I was trying to be helpful. I guess my message to alcoholics is there are things you CAN do besides not drinking to secure your relationships…Stop the coverup games. They are insulting and if you are worried about your personal relationships insulting people will not draw them to you. God knows what is going through your head but everyone else can see what’s going on because they aren’t stupid. And then be aware that when friends, relatives, dependents seek you out they are looking for the reward of your company. If instead they get a deterrent of weird vibes and withdrawal when they find you they won’t realize why but they will stop coming around as much.

          • lateblum says:

            Constance, It was clear you were offering help. It was painful for me to read and to know how you (and others, of course) have experienced such hurt – whether that hurt was intended or not. My hope is that we all have learned from our early hurts to not inflict them on others or to recognize when we do, that we stop, apologize and make things right if we can.
            (Maybe that last part was really meant more for me than for anyone.)

        • Anthony says:

          Bless you Constance. 🙏 I wish I could’ve left this response to your comment below (above?) re securing relationships. In BC (before Christian) I had a 6 year relationships with an alcoholic. I learned a lot from that. It’s a complicated disease that touches every person orbiting the afflicted. If we could all remember that people live the way they wish and die the same way, there might be a chance to heal the fractured relationships that inevevitably result.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        Lockdown created or aggravated alcohol and substance-abuse problems for a lot of people, myself included. I’m just adding the chorus here, but you should go and get better and don’t obsess about what your life would be like without drinking, because you don’t have the perspective right now to think about that in a constructive way. Just go.

    • jadzia1971 says:

      Shit, now I’m wondering what I missed.

      • lateblum says:

        It is sooo not worth it. It is also so nice to not have to scroll past comment after comment after comment because they were so filled with €¥{π£✓®%. I had to stop reading. And when I opened TCH this morning and the comments were gone, it felt like a wonderful, summer day.

        My thanks to whoever made it happen.

  42. Helen Kenney says:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/president-trump-lays-perfectly-joe-biden-democrats-record-total-destruction-video/

    it has to be on purpose. no one could do this much damage to our country through stupidity.

  43. Dora says:

    ‘This is Not a Negotiation’: Fed-Up Parents Serve Stunned School Board $200 Million Lawsuit Over Mask Mandate

    One could feel the tension at a Clark County School District board meeting as one fed-up dad spoke for a group of fourteen parents while serving a $200 million lawsuit over mask mandates. Watch:

    https://trendingpolitics.com/this-is-not-a-negotiation-fed-up-parents-serve-stunned-school-board-200-million-lawsuit-over-mask-mandate-knab/?utm_source=jdr

  44. lyn5 says:

    • elliesmom says:

      Rhode Island is a hotspot for the parents vs schoolboard clashes. Westerly is a shoreline community on the south shore with 20-25,000 people. So far most of the battles have been in towns about that size. I’m waiting for Providence’s parents to rise up.

  45. elliesmom says:

    For all the armchair lawyers- Andrew Branca is going into the courtroom for Legal Insurrection again. This time he’s covering the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha, WI. He’s the 17 year old who went there during the riots to offer protection and ended up killing two people and severely injuring another. The case is in pretrial hearings. For me, the most interesting hearing so far was the judge ruling the prosecution could not demand the names of the people who have contributed to Kyle’s defense fund. The judge told the prosecution if they think they need the list to make sure none of the jurors have contributed, they can just them. But the other rulings are interesting, too.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/10/analysis-kyle-rittenhouse-9-17-21-evidentiary-hearing-rulings/

    • elliesmom says:

      I just asked a friend who is a VP of HR. She says the only person who has to submit a social security number to get on a company’s insurance policy is the employee. The dependents may or may not have to submit proof of their relationship to the employee. So, yes, a child could insure an illegal parent.

    • Gram Krakka says:

      Qualifying Illegal aliens will be able to get health insurance through California’s Obamascare individual market.

      “To be eligible, adults must rely on their child for at least 50% of their total support. The law applies only to people who buy their health insurance on the individual market. Those who get insurance through their jobs, which includes most people in the state, aren’t eligible.”

      Some employers allow qualifying dependents of employees, including parents, to be covered. Many follow IRS rules on who qualifies as a claimable dependent for income tax purposes. Illegal aliens don’t qualify as a dependent under IRS rules (yet).

      Companies don’t want to subsidize health care for an employee’s spouse or domestic partner if they qualify for coverage from their own employer’s plan. So many require a higher premium for the spouse or domestic partner if they don’t use their own employer’s plan.

      The IRS has clear guidelines and rules to determine who qualifies as a dependent. I’ve done a lot of research on this in the past year.

  46. Mothy67 says:

    The answer to the eternal question put forth by the inimitable Linda Rondstat of When Will I Be Loved is never. Buckle up kids. It gets worse. How awful I got offered a job to write of Dean Corrill. I made it a few days.i no no no no no no no no to forever.
    Linda is/was Dora the Explorer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iBgTqz_-

    • Constance says:

      That is why it is absolutely necessary that you love your self. And actually plenty of people love you possibly they just aren’t expressing it in a way you can perceive or had hoped for.

  47. lateblum says:

    No words…

  48. Mothy67 says:

    Why does WordPress hate me

  49. Mothy67 says:

    Why does wordpress/kindle deny my 63 rd amendment right to post Linda Rondstat
    Love love love Linda

    • elliesmom says:

      When my daughter was in high school. she took me to a Linda Ronstadt concert for my birthday. The older woman sitting next to her asked my daughter how she knew who Linda Ronstadt was. My daughter said, “She was on the Muppets!”

      • Mothy67 says:

        You made my day.
        Big fan of Linda and Muppets. Remember Poor poor pitiful me? I sang it to my crud and I am tone deaf.

        Her stuff with Emmylou Harris not Trio with Dolly is worth a listen

        • elliesmom says:

          Emmylou was singing with Ronstadt at the concert we went to, Linda called Emmylou “She Who Must Be Obeyed”. My daughter didn’t know who Emmylou was before the concert, but she left a fan. I like Harris singing with Kenny Rogers, too.

          • elliesmom says:

            Emmylou and John Denver Her voice blends so well with so many others.

          • Mothy67 says:

            I love John Denver. My Sarah (Dunny) is not long for this world. She has advanced Alzheimer’s. Annie’s Song will always be about her.
            Such a pretty song. Not sure why I associate Annie with Sarah but I do.

          • elliesmom says:

            I have a young friend about your age who is very jealous of the concerts I’ve been to- John Denver, Joni Mitchell, Peter, Paul, and Mary, the Carpenters, James Taylor, Simon and Garfunkel, John Sebastion, BB King, etc, but I went to college in a college city, and those were the performers making the rounds at that time. Elliesdad’s favorite concert was Sha Na Na. We wandered into our smaller auditorium one Homecoming weekend to get out of the rain and found ourselves at a Cheech and Chong performance. No one knew who they were yet so they weren’t “headliners”, and it was free. lol

          • lyn5 says:

            We sat on the floor in a circle around Steve Martin when he performed on campus.

            I was in high school when I went to a Truman Capote reading.

        • elliesmom says:

          My “lullabies” to my babies were Peter, Paul, and Mary songs. When Elliesdad’s parents retired to Maine, Noel “Paul” Stookey was their summer neighbor. He asked my kids, who knew a lot of their songs, if they had learned them at camp. They told him about the lullabies. He invited them to sit on the edge of the stage at an outdoor concert in Blue Hill. There were a lot of little kids there, and when they sang “For Baby”, they asked all the little kids to sing along. Most of the kids knew it. I confused Crash when I told her it’s a John Denver song. 🙂

      • 1539days says:

        Well, if we’re going there

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  53. Mothy67 says:

    Apprapos of nothing but dag I like Ricky Lee Jones

  54. votermom says:

    Found big 10 oz bags of this in Lidl and it is SO YUMMY!!!

    https://mooncheese.com/products/white-chedda-black-peppa-medium

    • elliesmom says:

      That sounds good. yumm

    • Mothy67 says:

      Have KTY pick up Sarris from Giant Eagle. The candy is hands down the best I have ever had. Seriously Sharon (mom) sent baby girl on a life of crime. My mother sent her great grand daughter to get a knife to open a box. Then they hid it in closet. Like as if I couldn’t tell a Texas Chainsaw massacre took place on my Halloween treats. Gets better– they lied on each other. My mom says her great grand daughter made her steal chocolate. Shayla says GG (mom) made her do it. I don’t care.

  55. Dora says:

    • elliesmom says:

      Yang did an hour long interview with Tucker on his Fox Nation show. They had a really good conversation about what happens when a lot of jobs get automated all at once. How do people make a living? What does being made redundant do to people? Would more people like staying home and raising their own kids if they could afford to? They talked about FDR’s Civilian Conservation Corps. Yang talked about what an eyeopener it was for him to campaign in Iowa after living in NYC all his life. They talked about the issue of homelessness not really being about having nowhere to live.

      Yang doesn’t think the great divide in this country is between Democrats and Republicans. It’s between authoritarians and people who just want to be left alone to live their lives. He believes the moderates on both sides could have a civil conversation about what things we should use the government to do and what is none of its business because they always mess it up. He and Tucker proved two people who think they don’t agree on anything really do have lots of things they do.

      They also talked about how anyone who leans left gets excoriated when they go on a right-leaning show, but if someone on the right goes on a left-leaning show he gets a medal for bravery from the right. Tucker had a long conversation about that with Naomi Wolf, another great interview.

      • elliesmom says:

        BTW- the Unabomber quip from Tucker was a joke.

      • 1539days says:

        I talked to someone once about how universal basic income was a progressive ideal that had some libertarian support. Basically, instead of dozens of agencies collecting data, processing paperwork and handing out vouchers, people just got a check instead of “government programs.” While it would encourage some people not to work, the Democrats would be robbed of their menu of social justice programs.

        • elliesmom says:

          Yang pointed out $12,000 a year isn’t enough to live on 99.99% of the places in the US, but it might be enough to let one parent stay home and take care of the kids, enough for someone to take an apprenticeship to learn how to do something new, or for someone to take the risk of moving where workers are needed. At the end of the hour he had Carlson a lot more open to the idea. Not sold yet, but wanting to talk more.

  56. DeniseVB says:

    This is not about the ATC or weather now……….

    • DeniseVB says:

      They’re waking up….

        • lateblum says:

          For months now, I’ve wanted to stop at the house that had the R E S I S T letters – first across the front lawn and then across their front porch. I had to drive past that house 4 times a week for 4 years. But they removed it when Biden was (s)elected and instead they formed the word R I S E on their lawn. Oddly enough, the owners removed it not even a couple of months into Biden’s term. I’ve so wanted to stop there and ask why they removed it. But I’m neither brave enough nor stupid enough to do that.

      • lateblum says:

        #RESIST ✊

  57. Mothy67 says:

    I am having a 100 conversations race through my head.
    Can’t make sense. Emmylou, Dolly, Linda and than you all for years
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Wildflowers+trio

  58. Mothy67 says:

    Ughc

  59. Mothy67 says:

    Retry

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  63. Mothy67 says:

    Funny thing happened a month or so ago on the way to the forum oops mean funeral home.
    I have about 20 cousins near my age. We grew up on disco. We wore that clothing. We are 50ish. Andy Kim came on a radio at Finney’s Funeral home. I said Rock Me Gently was about sex. I got attacked by a cousin. I was called a pervert. The world can be so strange. Rock me Gently seems to me it is about sex. Cousin Carol thinks at 55 it’s about dancing.
    How is it not about sex?????¿?????????

    Sometimes I go to far, but come on disco song? Everything was about sex then.

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  65. Mothy67 says:

    I should say thanks to EM. I have been schooled by her on suicide and teen sex. To be clear what I’ve said here I have not said outside of here. I hope I can still learn something for the road. I have to deal with my monster. My mom was 14, my sister 16, my grandmother 13. It makes more sense to me to get dismissed here than have her make a baby. I don’t know what I am doing. She threw garlic toast at my head. I’d have preferred rye. She had to let me know. We don’t lie unless it is about Halloween candy. I am here. She matters. I will never not be here. She knows. That is what I offer. So we move on. Maybe I should be not intoxicated? Hmm? Radical thought.

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