Friday Open Thread

The Great Glass Pumpkin Patch, Santa Cruz, CA

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  1. DeniseVB says:

    Ooops. Alec Baldwin’s in deep doo-doo.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Funny, not funny ………

    • Anthony says:

      Empowered by 4 years of character assassination with no consequences, Baldwin steps up his game to actual.

    • Mothy67 says:

      I recall something similar happening in another century.
      Jon-erik Hexum put a prop gun to his head and was no more. He starred in the classic TV film The Making of a Male Model with Dame Joan Collins.
      Funny the inane things we remember.
      This is tragic but how do you shoot TWO people with a fake gun?

    • driguana says:

      I was the Planning and Growth Management Director of Santa Fe County for many years and responsible for helping to develop Santa Fe Studios and for issuing film permits for all films shot there. Something is very off here. I’ve been around many films and, for the large films, there is always a Prop Manager who is responsible for all props that go out on a set and when there are firearms, as there are in many Westerns, there is usually an Armorer or Arms Manager who should know exactly what firearms are being used and if they are loaded, usually with blanks. We’ll see….waiting to hear on the news from my friend< Juan Rios, who is the County spokesperson. But something misfired, so to speak…and interesting that it involves douche bag, Alec Baldwin…

      • driguana says:

        I’m also very familiar with Epstein’s Zorro Ranch, also in Santa Fe County…lots of strange stuff always going on around the film sets and millionaire ranches of entertainment people….

      • lateblum says:

        The Hallmark Channel would have this solved in under 90 minutes.

        • Mt.Laurel says:

          Complete with an array of lovely baked goodies displayed artfully and perfectly coordinated with a seasonal table scape where all the main characters can gather so the intrepid amateur sleuth can explain the how, why, who, when and where to all the good citizens of the town.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Tragic mistake.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      This was the plot line in an old Ellery Queen episode from the 70s that I was watching the other evening.

      I think it is also the plot from the final episode of the original run of Perry Mason.

      And I swear it is the plot line from a Columbo episode guest staring none other than William Shatner.

      Not even mentioning the real life scenarios such as Brandon Lee.

      You would think by now someone would be quadruple checking those darn guns.

  2. Dora says:

    Good Morning.

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    • foxyladi14 says:

      More people then this show up, Just to watch President Trump Fish!! 😆

      • lateblum says:

        Biden couldn’t get 25 people to sit in a circle for his very few in-person campaign appearances. He won by 31 million votes – or sumthin’. At that rate McAuliffe is a shoe-in.

  4. DeniseVB says:

    Oh dear, dancing indian math teacher in trouble now …… (video downstairs, but I’m sure there’s one in the DM link too).

  5. Dora says:

    Good to see this.


    Texas Welcomes Unvaccinated Organ-Transplant Patients Refused Care in Colorado

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    • Helen Kenney says:

      A good teacher is like a diamond. valuable, useful, and worth a lot. These teachers are like stone. not even coal which is useful. How in good conscience can a parent send a kid to school today? will they be taught to turn their parents into the state , like good little germans?

      Elliis mom, you are a diamond

      • Mothy67 says:

        Do you think this represents actual teachers or just the teachers’ union?
        I’d say we have one teacher who is progressive and she teaches biology. Kids kinda think she’s a flake. She made CNN 10 happen instead of 20 minutes after or before lunch as recess (shifts to accommodate in not yuuge cafeteria). I spoke out about it at the behest of the brats and it was dropped the next week.
        There is no zealotry here. I imagine most schools are the same. Seems like it’s liberal enclaves where most of this is pushed.

        • lateblum says:

          My son says the union doesn’t speak for him or most of the teachers he knows – both in Chicago where he taught first, and in this very woke suburb where he teaches now. There was a demonstration at the last school board meeting here. Just under 100 brave teachers protested outside the meeting. Protesting against the board as well as their union and in support of the parents who are objecting to masks, vaccines, what is being include$ in the curriculum, etc. he is preparing to leave. And if he does, I’d suggest he join some kind of home schooling group because he is a wonderful teacher who loves kids and loves teaching.

      • foxyladi14 says:

        Yes and all that are like her. ❤

      • elliesmom says:

        Elliesdad said I’m like an oyster. Give me something to annoy me, and I’ll churn it around and around and eventually spit out a pearl. But living with me in the churning phase wasn’t always easy. 🙂

    • elliesmom says:

      There are times when a parent is the enemy. 🙂 I remember one time when a mother wanted to sue one of the teachers on my team for being too nice to her daughter. Stella was a teacher with 30+ years of experience who was on our team to help kids who were having trouble passing the writing composition part of the state test. There was one girl whose penmanship was so bad it was difficult to read. This girl took great pride in her appearance so Stella thought some fancy pens and paper might make her more careful when she wrote her practice compositions. Stella reached into her own pocket and bought some glitter pens and unicorn notepaper.

      When the girl showed off her carefully written essay to her mom. Mom wanted to know if all the kids wrote on paper like that. The girl said no, just her. Mom stormed into school and accused poor Stella of “infantilizing” her daughter because she was mixed race. Stella had to go to court with examples of the “before and after” work the kid produced. BTW, the “free lawyer” provided by the teachers’ union told Stella to “settle and retire”. A grateful former student who was a lawyer represented her pro bono and got the case thrown out. Mom moved. But I became a bit more “circumspect” about whether parents and I were always on the same side.

  7. Helen Kenney says:

    this is a sad picture of what was and now what is

  8. elliesmom says:

    How a school approaches needing more than one lunch period varies from school to school, but only a brain dead school administration gives high school kids “recess”. High school kids are not going out on a playground to play red rover. Using the time to sit kids in front of a TV is not how any school I’ve been in has dealt with it, but if the TV is tuned to anything “educational”, those 20 minutes would count toward “time on learning” and wouldn’t need to be added to the length of the school day like recess does. So there is at least a rationale to doing it.

    When a town accepts a bid from a cable company to wire the town, one piece of the bid is often that the cable company agrees to wire every classroom and provide every school with free basic cable. Sometimes if the competition for the contract is fierce enough, the company will even put a TV in every room. If the contract is big enough, they might provide the town with studio equipment and staff support to run a local access cable TV and radio station. If the town gives space for the station in their high school, all kinds of opportunities open up for the kids. If CNN adds some money to the pot, a town might even agree to have CNN running somewhere in the school like in the lobby. The educational opportunities that come from having cable access in every classroom often outweighs the opportunities for a teacher with strong political beliefs to try to indoctrinate the kids.

    I’m far more concerned about what a science teacher can do to indoctrinate kids while she’s teaching science than I am about her pushing for CNN to be available in the school. Because we all learn about Clarence Darrow and the fake “Scopes Monkey Trial”, people get upset about parents who don’t want their kids to learn about evolution. But evolution is just one of many hot buttons a science teacher risks pushing if she has fundamentalist students in her class. There’s also the Theory of Uniformitarianism in geology, the Big Bang Theory in Astronomy, the Theory of Universal Gravitation in Physics, for a few examples. While there is certainly good reason for requiring kids to learn about them and understand what they are, there is no reason to make the kids accept them as the truth. I raise a lot of eyebrows when I say I don’t believe in the Big Bang, and yet I teach it.

  9. Mothy67 says:

    Was junio high. They don’t have recess in high school.

    • elliesmom says:

      Most junior highs don’t have recess, either. They add the lunch period to the period that comes at lunch time. Half the kids go to lunch and then class, and the other half go to class first. If they need a third lunch, some kids get a split period. Recess usually goes away when the kids have different teachers for different subjects. The time on learning lost to recess gets eaten up by the time it takes to change classes, and the kids can all go home at the same time. Lots of things that don’t seem to make sense educationally do when you add in things like bus schedules and lunch. Does Shay’s high school have an on campus TV station? I know she’s heavily into sports, but getting involved in TV production is a lot of fun for the kids.

      • Mothy67 says:

        Not sure if school has TV/radio. Someone puts all the games live on youtube. You can hear student chatter during swim meets. She’s on yearbook
        She got to “produce” a local newscast years ago. I volunteered at the shelter to walk dogs. One of the local TV personalities did as well. Shay would on weekend. We got to know her. She had Shay spend a day. It was a great experience.

  10. lateblum says:

    I hope this is a photo shopped picture, but living where I do, I’ve seen similarly questionably attired babies . . .

  11. lateblum says:

    I need to get to immediate care. Yesterday I went in at noon and was told I’d have a 4 hour wait. I’m going in a little earlier and if I can’t be seen within a couple of hours, I’ll wait until tonight around 7:00. But before I leave, I’d like to share this story:

    • elliesmom says:

      He should say he’s illegal.

    • swanspirit says:

      Wow!! People have gone crazy!! That NP needs her head, and heart examined!! I will be interested in seeing how this goes forward. Is it a policy of the Redimed organization? If so is the policy legal? If not their policy, that NP could be in deep doo.

    • Constance says:

      I haven’t had a problem with Medical care here in Seattle yet. I had an inner ear infection and terrible dizziy spells a month ago and I went to Urgent Care around noon and got in after 10 minutes. Also there was no one in the waiting room which I found very odd. I have the Kaiser Medicare plan. I am supposed to use their hospital and clinics but they have a clinic every 10 miles or so that’s easy.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        I have Kaiser and had to go in for blood draws on a couple occasions and no one even mentioned covid/vax/. Had an appointment for my flu shot yesterday and again no one asked about the vax and no one even mentioned covid to me or anyone else in the vicinity. They just ask that you wear a mask and not have more than one person beside the patient (e.g. driver or parent ). The smallish center closest to me is reasonably as it is the location for gastro surgery and the have geriatric specialists and there were people constantly coming and going but no one in the waiting areas. I think they are scheduling as much as possible for basics they use to do on a walk-in basis such as flu shots and blood pressure checks in order to keep the number of random patients down.

  12. swanspirit says:

    I am very worried about a friend of mine, who lives in North Carolina. We met and became good friends when she lived in Maryland. She and her husband have since moved around the country. For a while they lived in Portland, and then eventually moved to NC. She is very progressive, knitted a pussy hat, etc. but we just don’t talk politics at all.
    So of course she got the vaccination, I am not sure, which one, and now am hesitant to ask.
    Am hesitant, because she just turned up with a lung condition, out of the clear blue sky. A serious lung condition, called Diaphragmatic Eventration.

    “Diaphragmatic eventration refers to an abnormal contour of the diaphragmatic dome with no disruption to the diaphragmatic continuity. It typically affects only a segment of the hemidiaphragm, compared to paralysis/weakness where the entire hemidiaphragm is typically affected.”

    It means partial paralysis of the diaphragm, which results in breathing difficulties, shortness of breath, fatigue, pain, and abdominal swelling. It requires surgery to correct it. Maybe it has nothing at all to do with the vaccination, but I am so suspicious, it might. I hope not, and of course I am hoping for her complete and rapid recovery, but she has no word, or any idea what may have caused this, sudden onset.

    • votermom says:

      It does sound suspicious, specially as it’s in the lungs

      • swanspirit says:

        She had a rather severe reaction to the vaccine s, when she got them, back in April. 4 days of symptoms, and a lot of bruising.

        • lateblum says:

          Sounds like J&J. But I have no real information other than what I read about the vaccine. I had considered the J&J until I read about bruising and some other blood related issues. I view the vaccines with scepticism – actually fear – and my decision to not vax continues.

          • lateblum says:

            I’m waiting at the same clinic where the wait yesterday was 4 hours. Today the wait is just over an hour. 👏🙂👏👏

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    File in the “what goes around comes around” department.

  15. lyn5 says:

    Fuck Joe Biden Friday.

  16. Mothy67 says:

    I got the nbc streamer for Halloween Kills. It’s $12.50 at my nearest theater. 9.99 for a month of peacock. Girls can watch it on sleepover. It was savaged by critics. I thought it was fun. It’s a 40 year old horror franchise not Hitchcock. Some of the actors from the original reprised roles.
    Anyhow it’s a cold, wet day so I’m stuck indoors. I decided to watch new L&O SVU new season even though it turned me off for wokeness the last few years. Somebody must have realized they were killing a cash cow. Show has 500 episodes as of yesterday and plays well on USA. It’s still leans to the left, but the radical progressivism is absent.
    Hopefully the start of a new trend in entertainment. Go woke go broke. They can milk the show for another ten years if they remember proggies are a sliver of the audience. It’s a great rerun show when you can’t sleep.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I prefer Blue Bloods and binge watch them every Wednesday on the ION network I’ve already paid for via our ginormous cable bill. 🙂

      • elliesmom says:

        I like Blue Bloods, too. The “everyone must come home for Sunday dinner” reminds me of my childhood.

      • Mothy67 says:

        I only keep Fox Nation. Prime is included. I will do Netflix for a month if there is something I really want to watch. I wait until a season is over before doing HBOMax. I like to binge on days like today. My cable bill is as bare bones as you can get. I only have it in living room. They charge for each box and remote. Most channels you justbget the app.

    • elliesmom says:

      I don’t know if you have access to Law & Order UK anywhere, but it’s fun. They took the scripts from the original Law & Order and altered them to make them culturally British. Sometimes they end the same, and sometimes they don’t. Trial and Retribution is good, too, although a bit darker. It’s on imdb, which you can stream for free with ads. I like Law & Order, Law & Order Criminal Intent, and then SVU in that order. The first two have a wider range of crimes.

      SVU has been “woke” from the beginning. We just have a more heightened awareness now. But any show that focuses on rape and child abuse is going to attract a more woke audience. How many SVU episodes ended with the perp getting released because the “victim” lied? Only a couple out 22 seasons. In real life about 60% of rape trials end in acquittal. I understand it’s TV, and Perry Mason won every case but one, which he won on appeal, but my point is more about how “woke” SVU is, not whether it’s real.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        Law & Order UK was on Prime. I think Amazon has now shifted it to IMDB TV (free but ads).

        I just recently found one of the sub channels in my area Court TV Mystery(?) is airing the original Law and Order for blocks three times a week 10:00 am to 3:00 pm. Each is rotating from a different starting point/different year so Mondays are currently the early years, Tuesday the mid years and I think Friday the later years ( am usually at the office later in the week). Nice background noise.

        • elliesmom says:

          I started watching UK and couldn’t figure out why the stories were familiar at first. Then they did an episode that was one of my favorites from the original series, and it fell into place. I love Grantchester, but PBS is still holding the newest seasons hostage for a subscription fee. I know they will show up on a service I already pay for eventually. A lot of series I’ve been watching have posted their final seasons so I’ve been slowly finding some new ones. I kind of like to know the whole series is already there because I get angry if I invest a lot of time in watching something, and then they just leave us hanging. The funny one was “A Place to Call Home” on Acorn. They got cancelled, and ended the story. Then they got renewed so they went back and redid the last episode and carried on for another season or two. You can watch both endings.

      • Mothy67 says:

        The original Law & Order is returning in the spring or next fall. They have had great success with their Chicago franchise and want to replicate with L&O. I tried to watch Organized Crime. It didn’t grab me. They developed two shows. One was from the perspective of the defense and the other was Hate Crimes. I think they realized both were not mainstream enough. The defense got canned and Hate Crimes is going straight to peacock.
        I liked the original best it’s first few years. It was gritty. The only person I read who may return is Anthony Anderson, but they have a slew of women who played ADA’s who would probably love a steady gig.
        SVU I liked because of the chemistry and it was not soapy. Now it’s relationships and kids. Yawn. The beauty was it’s focus on the crime and trial. Can’t sleep watch a rerun.

        • elliesmom says:

          At night there are two modes whether I’m reading a book or watching TV. Mode one is I get totally engrossed in the story and have a hard time going to sleep until I know how it ends. The other is to watch or read an interesting but gentle story that I’m OK putting down or turning off and finishing later. Mode 2 gets me a better night’s sleep so I tend to go that way most nights and save the other things for daytime pleasure. Reruns are actually good at night because I already know how they end, but something has to be really good or something I saw a long time ago for me to watch or read it again.

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    • Somebody says:

      That’s what my husband said. Hubby also said, “I’m a legal gun owner, have been for decades and I’ve shot two less people than Alec Baldwin” 🤣

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    Fuck Joe Biden Forever.

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  29. Mothy67 says:

    A blue check thinks it’s worth questioning whether a Trump supporter put a live round in prop gun to punish Baldwin for parodies.

  30. Mt.Laurel says:

    Alec and Joey have taken al the oxygen out of the room today so I just saw that peter Scolari passed away when I got home from work.

  31. DandyTIger says:

    The market today is valuing Trump’s new media company at >$9.5 B.

    That would make it worth more than the New York Times Co.

  32. Mothy67 says:

    My disabled neighbor I pick up meds for is worried sick. Her doctor told her to go to ER. He wants a chest x-ray because she has a cough. She is scared because the father of the 11 year old girl Who tested positive took her to pick up her car after inspection. She can’t decide if she is dying from Covid or pneumonia. I dropped her off some D3 and zinc. I put it between doors, get off the porch and we talk for a few minutes. She has a change of seasons cold. Pig fuckers have her worried sick. She bought me a bottle of kettle one as a thank you. She can shop she just can’t stand in pharmacy line. I gave it to another neighbor.
    This is the closest covid has hit to my home. The dad says so far it’s like she has a bad cold. He thinks she might be milking it becsuse they forbid soda under normal circumstances but to keep her hydrated they are letting her have as much ginger ale as she wants. Kids are funny.

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    • Cisco says:

      Dumb ass Baldwin over at DRUDGE sez’ he didn’t know the gun was loaded.
      1st commandment of firearms
      Verify that there not, its your responsibility, not the prop man.

      • Constance says:

        And why would he be aiming at the director during a scene anyway? I could see how he could accidentally shoot another actor although I agree it is his responsibility to check the gun.

        • Miranda says:

          I could see his shooting toward the camera if they wanted a shot of the bullet coming out of the gun. I don’t know the safety processes on sets, but I doubt the actors check their own guns. If the prop master hands you a prop, it’s supposed to be safe for use.
          It should be completely impossible for a prop gun to fire *anything*. These days, all effects can be added post-production.

          • DeniseVB says:

            I asked this same Q. A shot of a gun firing at you would only involve the cameraman and the cinematographer well to the side watching a monitor for proper framing. Chances are, they weren’t shooting a scene at the time.

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    Back trqck better …

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