Wednesday, November 10, 2021

Prince William National Forest, South Branch Quantico Creek, Virginia

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160 Responses to Wednesday, November 10, 2021

  1. DeniseVB says:

    Happy Birthday Marines, you had it so much better with this guy. ❤

  2. jadzia1971 says:

    In the runup to Thanksgiving (or maybe this would be better for Festivus), I’d love a thread on all the family/friends who are excluding us over the vax mandates.

    I’ll start. I put this in the last thread but nobody’s gonna see it. My children were just uninvited from their OWN FATHER’s 50th birthday party because they are not vaccinated. Everybody else attending is double-vaxxed and I believe Grandma and Grandpa (who kept the kids for two weeks at the end of October for the school vacation) have had boosters. Everybody is in perfect health. Nobody is overweight, diabetic, or suffering from any other comorbidity.

    I have absolutely no problem getting the kids COVID tests, whether at a lab or an autotest from a pharmacy, which I have previously done several times before visits to Grandma’s house. I would also have sent them with masks if that had been requested.

    Two of these children are not even eligible for vaccination, as they are too young.

    I know how important it is not to badmouth the kids’ other parent, but I am biting my tongue hard. If this were my birthday party and my family doing this to the kids, they would be partying without me. These assholes are all getting lumps of coal for their Christmas presents.

    • 1539days says:

      Feel free to badmouth him here at least.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        Ha ha. I’m just trying to get the divorce done without any judicial intervention on the vaccination issue, because if that happens, I obviously will lose.

        • swanspirit says:

          I am sure you will make it, as difficult as the “outlaws” can be, it’s just more reason to remember why you are getting the divorce.

        • DeniseVB says:

          His loss. Just have the kids send him a card, if they want to 🙂 Does he have a SO? Is she making the “rules” ? Doesn’t sound like a fun party anyhow. 😉

          • jadzia1971 says:

            I have no idea what is up in his private life. Kids haven’t said anything. It’s a family party. My best guess is that his Parisian bobo twin and twin’s wife are making the rules. Or possibly the older brother, who is a Big Pharma executive.

      • lateblum says:

        What Days said.

    • votermom says:

      I would be livid, jadzia

      • jadzia1971 says:

        I’m mostly sad for the kids (who obviously have no idea about this). If their dad and his family want to distance themselves from said kids, I guess it’s their right to do so. Most people end up regretting this kind of thing but these days, who knows?

    • elliesmom says:

      I saw your comment from last night, and I’m not sure I was clear enough. 🙂 My friend would not exclude me from her daughter’s wedding because I’m not vaccinated. I have been invited to her home for Thanksgiving, and the bride and groom will be there, too. My friend’s worry is that the venue may not let her unvaccinated friends and family attend. The wedding isn’t until April, and she’s stressing about it now. The bride thought it would be easier to just not invite unvaccinated people until she saw who that would exclude. Both her grandmother and her godmother for a start. Under the circumstances, I would have made other choices. My friend has a lovely summer place with acres of land. I would have delayed the wedding just a bit to get a little warmer weather, rented a tent, and hired a caterer. There are only 50 guests. But as a person with an HR mentality, my friend never looks for a way to get around rules. She only tries very hard to follow them and to get other people to follow them. too. In 1776, she would have been a good little Tory. 🙂

      • jadzia1971 says:

        Oh, geez. In Current Year, I would absolutely be having the wedding at a big family home (if available) or in the backyard. Why give money to a place that is going to discriminate against your loved ones?

    • mcnorman says:

      TY for reminding me know that there are always equally or worse than my soon be be cranckenstein ex SIL. It’s always nice to know that one is not alone. Next time you’re in NYC, let Anthony know…I’ll bring the wine and we can compare notes.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        Sounds good to me! Someday dirty plague rats like me might be allowed back in the US. I have some new cases that I am hoping will bring me to the East Coast in the next year or two.

      • Mt.Laurel says:

        All my original SILs were great. But lost two SILs when dummy brothers had their egos bruised when wives started making more and threw temper tantrums that ended with divorce. One ex SIL passed 20 years ago (brain tumor) and I still miss her.

        However their “replacements” were beyond horrid. Nasty no overly bright batshit crazy control freaks ( who refuse to take their meds which makes them even nastier). Over the years true evil would often show through the guise of moral superiority they tried to hide behind. In dealing with the bizarreness of DC I realized years ago those two would fit in perfectly in the swamp. Whenever I sense someone of the ilk in my vicinity I have a visceral reaction.

        So no, you are not alone with a SIL who likes to control everyone and everything and enjoys making others miserable and inflicting pain.

    • lateblum says:

      I don’t want to repeat the entire story, but I have been UN-invited – or is it dis-invited? from family Thanksgiving dinner because . . . I’m unvaxxed. I’m going with social psychosis and MSM and govt-induced paranoia as an excuse for them. (As luck would have it, they are from the small town where I grew up and from which my parents fled as soon as they could due to the small mindedness they encountered whilst living there.)
      Now DD#2 is frantic because she doesn’t know if she can attend the dinner. Not only has she been vaccinated and is scheduled for her “booster” the week before Turkey Day, but has also had the Wu flu twice. I am her connection to the in-laws. My son is my connection to that family. That, and the fact that those little girls wouldn’t be here if not for my having given birth to their father.
      However the real issue I have with this is that the girls will now see that it’s okay to discriminate against people who have other beliefs than they. Of course, if I were b l a c k or Muslim, the entire extended family would be torn about how woke they would seem if they were telling me to stay home. They pride themselves on their acceptance of “others”. Yet, I was the person who invited my LGB and black and Jewish friends to the wedding. . . NOT the bride’s family. I know I’m getting pissy. I guess this shunning has affected me more than I’m aware. 🤨
      I had written a lengthy response to the rescinding of the invitation, explaining my position as well as my personal medical history. Then I said eff it. I merely responded with a note saying thank you for the invitation to Friday leftovers. I’ll bring dd#2 with me and also think of something else for Thursday. Maybe just going to the nursing home and bringing games to play on Thursday. They won’t allow food to come into the place unless it’s from a legit food purveyor – not someone’s home.

    • Constance says:

      My family is split this year. I figured we would skip the whole thing since I am moving but my kids want me to have it at my new condo to “break it in”. So I agreed but they are bringing food to help out. My brother in law refuses to be inside with unvaxed and my son had Covid and refuses to get the shot. So BIL is holding his own Thanksgiving and got 2 people to join him. My sister, his wife is coming to my Thanksgiving. Seems like all the fun people are coming to my house! Pretty wild!

      • jadzia1971 says:

        Yeah, the ONE good thing to come of all this is that I now have an easy way of distinguishing the fun people from the p*ssies.

        • jadzia1971 says:

          Oh, here’s my story of INCLUSION. I’m having Thanksgiving with the Mormons. No vax bullshit required. I fucking love the Mormons now.

          (OK, I already loved them. It’s the home of my best friend here and her husband, who is a friend, a colleague, and my lawyer.)

  3. Dora says:

    Good Morning.

    Why indeed?

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  5. gram krakka says:

    Schiff says Trump incited an ‘erection’.

  6. Mothy67 says:

    Stevia has been shown in studies to significantly suppress glucose plasma and increase tolerance. I am hovering around 105 after eating — down from 290. I mention this because there are sooooooo many ads for diabetes commercials. All the docs I saw pushed meds and or insulin. “Trust the science.” Cannot be reversed. I am not going exercise crazy or depriving myself of food. A 20 minute walk after a meal. Not race walking. I usually have my bad girls. So there is a lot of stopping to sniff. I eat a carb heavy breakfast and then 4 light carb meals (30 to 40g). I will have chocolate cake if I want. I just take a regular slice and skip the milk. I have dessert two hours after meal. I think if I allow my body time it can re-adjust. Right now I can’t have 4 slices of pizza, a soda, and chocolate lava cake in one sitting. It’s been 22 days
    My point is that I believe there is an over dependence on pharmacology from the medical community. Pills/vaccines are the blanket answer to everything. The nurse practitioner who specializes in diabetic care flat out told me I could not do this without chemicals and stressed the need for injections. Four times a day shooting myself in the belly. No thanks. I understand it is a pernicious disease and many people are not able to make changes. Ive always been a big walker. It’s like meditation for me. I am spending more on healthy food so if someone’s resources are limited there’s that. I don’t carry visceral weight which places men at high risk.
    I’m not saying drugs don’t do wonders. I have friends living completely normal lives who are HIV+. Medicines save lives. I just see it as an easy out. My PCP told me he has never seen anyone succesfully manage in such short time. Trillions are made off drugs and neither the patient nor MD has to do much work. Write a script, pop a pill.
    Anyhow it has been almost two years since kung flu started. We did the two weeks maybe a month of following protocols. I’ve been hospialized three times, attended funerals, hosted tons of sleepovers, been in the unmasked underground casinos/bars, taken public transportation, used uber unmasked, only sport canceled was softball in 2020. Holidays weren’t cancelled. My siblings never stopped working or visiting. I live in a town with a disproportionate number of nurses. There has never been crippling fear here. One would think they’d be the most cautious. So many small businesses gone because of the governor.
    I see parallels between diabetes treatment and china flu. It has become like a manufactured chronic disease. Booster shots after 4 months fow how long? For a disease you don’t have? What effect will it have on the body long term. A powerful medicine administered quarterly for what years, decades. I didn’t want my pancreas to need a drug if I could avoid it.

    • votermom says:

      If you are interested, eating a strict carnivore diet can reverse type 2 diabetes. Eat only and primarily meat (specially fatty meat) – typically 2 pounds a day. Eggs and butter are ok. Drink mostly water.
      Heavy cream, cheese, unsweetened coffee are allowed but not recommended (the dairy can cause weight stalls, and caffeine can be an appetite suppressant as well as raise bp)
      No artificial sweeteners as they cause cravings
      The idea is to learn to eat to satiate hunger, and your body will heal itself.

    • elliesmom says:

      There are a lot of people out there who would rather take a pill or an injection than make significant changes to their lifestyle. Some of them need to do both, but changing their lifestyle is still more challenging. I’m not anti-medication. I just believe in doing anything we can without it first and then, if necessary, take as little as possible.

      But visit any donut shop and count how many people order coffee with artificial sweetener and two jelly donuts. Or go to McDonalds and watch how many people order a Big Mac and a diet Coke. My doctor pointed out to me if artificial sweeteners were the secret to maintaining a healthy weight, why is it that most people who use them are overweight? Artificial sweeteners can help diabetics satisfy a sweet tooth, but there are other ways without injesting chemicals. Elliesdad worked for the company that invented aspartame. He wouldn’t touch the stuff.

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Dana Perino’s new puppy. 🙂

  8. helenk3 says:

    I am stuck in the cellar again. please get my comment out. than you

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    when the pipe of information is made more narrow. less info comes out

  11. helenk3 says:

    maybe it is just me, but this idea, has nothing to do with climate change. it is a wealth transfer from America to foreign enemies caused by the dems. anybody telling china or russia to get rid of fossil fuel?

  12. helenk3 says:

    no dipshit, it is because she is an embarrassment to women of all colors and a lazy do nothing

  13. jadzia1971 says:

    I have a question for people who got a better grade in formal logic than I did. Sadly no English translation available, but here is what Micron just announced: If you are over 65 or have a “high risk” health condition (HOW THE FUCK DOES THE GOVERNMENT KNOW OUR HEALTH CONDITIONS? DOCTORS HERE RECEIVE PAYMENTS FROM THE GOVERNMENT BUT THEIR PRACTICES ARE PRIVATE), you LOSE your vaccine passport on/around December 15 if you don’t get a “booster.”

    #1: Welcome to the Pfizer subscription plan, Grandma.

    #2: Leaving aside the issue of whether one is for or against the injection and/or vaccine passports, I literally do not understand what the government is CLAIMING it wants to achieve here. Supposedly the point of the “passport” is that dirty plague rats shouldn’t be allowed to transmit the virus. But this new rule doesn’t target those people–it targets the people who are supposedly being protected from dirty unwashed like me.

    #3: I honestly don’t care and might enjoy it when the people who were screeching that everybody else’s lives had to STOP STOP STOP to protect them(*) are shut out of society unless they take the needle whenever the authorities tell them to do so.

    (*)Because the lives of young people who die of suicide or middle-aged people who die for want of a cancer diagnosis are less important than their lives, I suppose.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Threats and bribes are working out so well, eh? I should recuse myself from vax discussions because I’ve been jabbed x 3 (Moderna). I’m fine and I don’t plan to be in any of the same situations of the unvaccinated, but I will continue enjoying my unsociable/introverted self and say no to everything I’m invited too 😀 I am 110% OPPOSED to mandates and bribes, like this one……

      • taw46 says:

        I have had the Moderna vaccines plus the booster and I am also fine. But I would NEVER tell anyone they should get the shots, I am 100% against mandates and vaccine passports. I have been out and about many times, including the pre-vaccine days, and I never got Covid (that I know of). I think everyone should do what they think is best for them, and not insult anyone, vaccinated or unvaccinated.

      • 1539days says:

        I appreciate everyone in the herd getting the immunity. I just don’t plan to join them.

        • jadzia1971 says:

          The other day I told somebody that I’m in the control group and they thought that I literally meant that there were, you know, CONTROLLED STUDIES going on. And this was not a stupid person. It took like 10 minutes (in French, so part of this is my fault) to explain that no, I’m just kidding, I just meant that….

      • jadzia1971 says:

        Thank you for your REAL solidarity!

        Macron just shoved ALL elementary school students back into masks and ended real gym classes. I want some pissed royalist to shove a mask up his ass.

    • elliesmom says:

      When this whole thing started, I told my children they were under no obligation to keep the kids out of school, lose their jobs, or walk around wearing face diapers to protect me. Protecting me was my job, not theirs. If they were staying away from me because they thought I might infect them, then say so, but if they were staying away to keep me safe, it was my choice whether to take the risk or not. There are lots of selfish older people out there, though, who believe the world should put them first. I’d like to say it’s a new phemnomenon, but it’s not a “boomer” thing. Throughout history the patriarchs and matriarchs of their families have often expected younger members of the family to put the needs of their elders first.

      • jadzia1971 says:

        That’s a good point. My judgment about “boomers” is probably skewed by my experience with my parents, particularly the only one who remains.

  14. taw46 says:

    What a hoot! As if she knows anything but how to cackle.

    “Macron and Harris will meet face-to-face Wednesday to discuss climate change, space, the economy, supply chains, global health, and the Indo-Pacific, according to a senior administration official.”

  15. lateblum says:

    The Rittenhouse trial is live on FOX now. Kyle is on the stand.

      • helenk3 says:

        prosecuter saying that weeks before Kyle said he would like to shoot shoplifters. I say every day, I wish I was a witch, I would make every dem turn lime green and bleat like goats. if that happens am I guilty?

    • helenk3 says:

      Just out of curiosity, did the prosecution charge any rioters especially those carrying guns?

    • lateblum says:

      So far, the judge has directed the jury to leave for a moment twice. The first time was to warn the prosecution that he was crossing the line and putting Kyle’s constitutional rights in jeopardy. This time he just said that if the prosecutor continued, the judge would call a mistrial with prejudice. The judge is LIVID.

      • lateblum says:

        It is annoying to see how the prosecutor is dismissing constitutional rights of the accused. Especially since many of the prosecution’s witnesses have refuted the prosecution’s cases.
        And now, the prosecution is being rude and back talking to the judge. This is unreal.

        • elliesmom says:

          The judge needs to call the mistrial with prejudice now and make it clear it’s the prosecution’s fault. Then Kyle needs to leave the state for one in which he will be a hero instead of a villain. Let the jury off the hook for acquitting Kyle, and make the prosecutor take the heat. He works for the government so they can provide him with protection. Minneapolis is a lovely city, and it’s too bad it will probably go up in flames again. Another Bidenville.

          • lyn5 says:

            I agree. Kyle wouldn’t be on trial if police did their jobs and refused stand-down orders from corrupt politicians.

          • taw46 says:

            So true, lyn. I remember watching Kenosha burn that night. Car dealerships, other businesses, and I believe a couple of homes. And the police did nothing. They didn’t even take Kyle into custody when he tried to tell them what happened. Crazy night.

          • lyn5 says:

            The judge’s cellphone went off. LOL.

          • lateblum says:

            I reported in error. I learned it was the defense that, during the second break this morning, urged the judge to call a mistrial with prejudice. (I’m flirting about today with errands and heard the words, saw the judge’s angry face, and assumed it was the judge rather than the defense.)
            I agree with your solution to this attempt to assuage the anger of antifa and BLM by trying Kyle R for murder.. he may have broken the law by driving without a license to/from Kenosha. But that’s a far cry from murder. I think law enforcement is anticipating rioting/protesting in Chicago. They’ve canceled all days off this week.
            Doesn’t that give permission for bad behavior to the BLM crowd? Even though no one involved is a poc.

          • lyn5 says:

            The prosecutor tried to add more evidence now (Kyle’s T-shirt that said “free as fuck” after he made bail with selfies at Pudgy’s bar), and the judge told him to stuff it.

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  20. Shez ZK says:

    I’m watching the trial at Rekieta Law on YouTube with over 60,000 watching. They have 8 assorted lawyers as a panel reacting or making commentary during the trial, and during breaks. I know a PBS link went up but this stream is quite entertaining and clarifying. And they are coming from our viewpoint which helps immensely trying to watch this bullshit. Today is my grandson’s 16th birthday, he’s a hunter and still has a baby face much like Kyle. I had to put down my breakfast when Kyle started to sob, sudden nausea struck me hard. The lawyers live commentary is fascinating, plus I seem to have the same instant reactions that they do. Laughs, Whoahs, Holy Shits!, it’s great to watch it this way listening to them discuss the pros and cons of legal strategies. The chatbox is also lively.

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    • helenk3 says:

      at this point , I am so discussed with this prosecutor, that I want to ask him> if the rioters had killed kyle, would he prosecute them or pat them on the back

      • lateblum says:

        I had a huuuge argument with a friend today about the trial. Hearing her say that she hopes Kyle is found guilty and spends the rest of his life in prison was almost more than I can say. She used to teach in a girls’ school and she has some pretty strong feelings against males in general. It was scary. She was pounding the table as she “made her points” about how “arrogant and grandiose” he was to think he could take the law into his 17yo hands. Then I said, what if the men who died had killed him. She said “Fine! Then we wouldn’t be wasting so much time on this nonsense”. I’ve never seen her so animated. I reminded her that Rosenbaum had threatened to kill Kyle and that he had recently been released from prison. It didn’t matter. Kyle “had no business being there OR having a weapon”. And the people who were rioting in Kenosha had more right to be there than Rittenhouse. Honestly, I was amazed at the amount of hate my NPR/PBS imbibing friend was holding. Truly saddened by it.

        • lyn5 says:

          What a bitch.

        • Locked-N-Loaded says:

          OMG, what a hateful person. Sending you bunches of hugs and prayers for lots of positive energy!!!

          • lateblum says:

            Thank you. I’ll need it to continue staying steady when I see her. And I will. She is one of the very few of my vaccinated friends who not only accepts my non-vax position but also understands it and supports it. This was so out of character for her. It was shocking.

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  26. DeniseVB says:

    Muh New Governor ❤

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  28. helenk3 says:

    worried? seems they know that the riots are coming. what a sad place for a city and a country

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    • swanspirit says:

      I once worked with an psychiatrist, that the nurses who worked with him used to say “Where did he go to med school? The Community College of Medicine of the Caribbean?”
      I guess they have a law school, too. The Community College School of Law, of the Caribbean. They don’t have desks, they have hammocks. 😎🌴🏝

      • lateblum says:

        Hah! I did work with a psychiatrist who got his MD from a medical school in the Caribbean. He was a truly nice guy, probably smart, but may not have been all that qualified to be a MD, much less the medical director of the dept.

    • lateblum says:

      That prosecutor exhibits delusions that he is an attorney.

      • lyn5 says:

        Tell your friend Kyle’s father lives in Kenosha.

        • lateblum says:

          I did. So do many of his relatives. I told her that, too. She went right back to the same hateful statements she had made before. She was determined to make certain I knew just how much she hates guns and right wingers who hate blacks and gays. (She is gay, btw.) She then said he was a “Proud Boy” and she hates those. She also doesn’t believe Antifa exists.
          Really…NPR and PBS are like mother’s milk to her.

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    h/t Angie

  36. lateblum says:

    I was surprised to read a more-or-less objective account of the trial today. It was in a local newsletter. Here is a passage . . .

    During two instances Wednesday, Kenosha County Judge Bruce Schroeder asked the jury to leave the room and sternly admonished Kenosha County assistant district attorney Thomas Binger on his lines of questioning. Defense attorney Mark Richards claimed Binger, “an experienced trial lawyer,” was purposely throwing the case to “invoke a mistrial” because “the first trial is going badly.”

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    Burn it down.

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