Thursday, December 2, 2021

Estes Park, Colorado

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86 Responses to Thursday, December 2, 2021

  1. Somebody says:

    Oh my, isn’t that beautiful. A bit cold for my taste, but a beautiful scene.

    • elliesmom says:

      It’s going to be in the 50s here today, and the rain is supposed to stop soon. It might be my last chance to put up Christmas decorations glove-free. All of the local towns are having their tree lighting ceremonies tomorrow night. No snow here in the “snow capital of RI” and still at least in the 40s. We’ve had a few flurries so far, but nothing anyone around here would credit as being our “first snow”. My guests tomorrow night are going to the town’s tree lighting before coming here. If I have dinner well in hand, I’ll join them, but they might be disappointed. They put some lights on the fir tree that grows in front of town hall. 🙂

      • DeniseVB says:

        Is your town anything like “Stars Hollow” (aka Washington, CT)? How did you leave Boston and find your cozy community and lifestyle ?

        • elliesmom says:

          Washington, CT is in the circle of influence of New York so it’s a bit different culturally. Where I live, people are more impressed by the size of your pickup than your house. 🙂 My town is spread out with little clusters of neighborhoods mostly around one of the many lakes and ponds. Farmland and forests where the houses aren’t. The “pond” is a 3.5 mile walk or kayak around it, and it’s middling in size for the town. Our HOA has about 150 homes in it. The HOA only concerns itself with access to the pond and preservation of the dam. We had a “Karen” move in who wanted the HOA to have more power, and she got shot down before she could get out of the gate.

          When we needed a house more accessible for him, Elliesdad talked about moving south, specifically to South Carolina, but I knew I was facing widowhood sooner rather than later. If I got hit by a bus and left him behind, there was no way he could have handled being that far away from friends and family. Making a whole new set of friends without any in place already would have been challenging for me in addition to caring for him. We had a lot of Rhode Island friends, and where we are is less than an hour from both of our kids. ED grew up spending most of his summers in the Poconos in PA, and this looks a lot like that. We had a really good real estate agent who spent a lot of time on the phone with me listening to what I needed. He only had to show me three house for me to find the right one. House prices were a lot lower in RI than in MA six years ago so crossing the state line made it easy for me to retain ownership of the MA house, too, and get the grandkids into a better school system.

          • DeniseVB says:

            Washington, CT was The Gilmore Girls creator’s inspiration for the show, but I always loved the idea of Stars Hollow. Your new area always sounded lover-ly 🙂

    • swanspirit says:

      That’s some high altitude living, in Estes Park. Getting close to the timberline. I was there in the summer and it was just incredible. Thanks, Denise!❤

    • lateblum says:

      It is a beautiful picture! Looks like a backdrop for the Hallmark Christmas Movies. 🎄🎅🏼

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Yes indeed! 😀

  2. jadzia1971 says:

    School closure EXTENDED to next Thursday for no disclosed reason. They only have 4-5 school days between next Thursday and the beginning of school vacation. Anyone want to make a bet about whether my 2 10-year-olds will see the inside of the classroom–WHICH I AM PAYING FOR–before 2022?

    Last day of office construction! I can only get to my computer because the worker guys, who brought croissants to share because France isn’t always awful, are at lunch. Let’s see if they put the drawers in backwards again after they have a glass or two of red wine at said lunch. This project has taken four months to get going and it is hideously expensive but it is going to be so worth it to finally have storage.

    • lateblum says:

      You absolutely have my sympathy. When you finally have storage, you’ll have a place to put the kids while school is closed. 😉
      I remember living through months and months of renovation and construction. I also remember one of my brothers dropping their kids off for a week during that time as well as my kids having chickenpox and passing it onto me during that same time. Horrible!!! But I didn’t also have to work at a job outside the parameters of being wife, mother and aunt. It
      was a hellish spring, summer and fall. I was scarred for decades. lol
      (Btw, my brother didn’t ask me if he could drop off the kids. He asked my mother to tell me he was dropping off the kids while he and wife went on vacation!)

      • jadzia1971 says:

        Wow, your brother sounds worse than mine!

        We are ALMOST done with the storage construction, although it now appears that there was a miscommunication about leaving one of the shelves (a big one that houses the printer) open when i wanted everything closed. So that’s gonna mean more money and probably waiting a few months for delivery of the door. But everything else is functional and it is GLORIOUS. My big goal for the weekend is to get it all organized and everything labeled and never have a desk piled with crapola again.

  3. Dora says:

    Good Morning.

    I don’t think this will help business.


    Target Introduces ‘Democrat Only’ Checkout Line Where They Just Run Out Without Paying !

  4. elliesmom says:

    On Thanksgiving neither Trump’s nor Biden’s name ever came up, but that doesn’t mean politics wasn’t part of the conversation. It started when my young friend told her fiance I was the one who had given her a campaign tee shirt autographed by Hillary Clinton that says, “To Hillary from Hillary” on it. When I gave it to her in 2008, she was in high school. I told her as tempting as it might be to wear it, she should tuck it carefully away. If Hillary won, the tee shirt might put one of her grandchildren through college. When Clinton lost the nomination to Obama, my Hillary started wearing the tee shirt. She put it back in the drawer in 2016 when she thought it might become valuable again, but she’s wearing it again,

    The memory started a conversation about the “pecking order” in identity politics. My Hillary works in government and probably will have some political aspirations in the future. When I pointed out white heterosexual women are only slightly higher up than white heterosexual men, it startled her. While white women have made a stab at being president or vice president several times in our history, none of them have succeeded. It took a black woman to do it. The number of black lesbians in political office or positions of power vs. the number of them in the population suggests black, homosexual, and female is the highest rung for women. Because no person’s name came into the conversation, it stayed non-partisan. My young friend now realizes just being female isn’t much of an advantage in the identity politics game, but the big thing is she listened instead of trying to shut me up.

    The conversation turned political again when we were loading the dishwasher, and I commented the replacement top rack for my dishwasher has been on backorder for a month or so. Then she learned that a lot of big rig truckers are owner-operators and have no interest or need to belong to a union. With the current national shortage of truckers, they’ve just left the dock work for other places. The back-up in California is also visual proof of how much more stuff we import from Pacific rim countries than other places in the world. If people had stopped shopping during the pandemic, how did companies like Amazon and Walmart have record profits? Once again, one of her narratives was destroyed without a whimper.

  5. Somebody says:

    I’m super excited, waiting for UPS to arrive. I ordered a new 4 lane race track and it arrives today. When I was a kid my neighbors had a big race track that they put on a board on the floor in the family room every Christmas. We’d all hang out there during our school break and have a blast. We weren’t always racing the cars, but usually some were.

    In the late 90’s I bought a 4 lane race track and set it up for my older two kids. They had friends over to race, they’d race with us, their grandparents, aunts and uncles, cousins, just clean fun, well a little trash talking was involved 😉

    Our old race track is long in the tooth and finding parts is difficult to impossible, so we haven’t gotten it down in years, decades. I found a black Friday deal on a new one, boy have prices gone up since the 90’s🤣 It arrives today!😁 Bigger bonus, this company bought the company that made our other racetrack and reprised it, so all the parts and cars are interchangeable. So my kids “special” cars or the banks we added through the years will work with this.

    I have a square coffee table with 4 small ottomans under it that functions as a game table and/or kid center. My big ottomans in the living room are the exact height and width as the coffee table. I’m putting an ottoman against the table, covering it with a pad and have a piece a plywood cut to fit to go on top, then a tablecloth. End result a 60 x 40 racing area with little stools the perfect height for sitting around it.

    My kids nor my grandkids know, it’s a surprise. I’m hoping my grandkids will enjoy it, but I’m concerned it may be too “analog” in their digital world. I think, I hope it will elicit fond memories from my own children. If my older daughter were here I’d hear about the trauma of my beating her in a race where she set a record time and how it traumatized her🙄🙄🙄, but she’s in NC so it shouldn’t be an issue🤣

    If nothing else I’m going to enjoy my new toy😁 I talked to Lola last night we’re making plans to get together, maybe she’ll race with me🤣 If UPS delivers late my surprise will be ruined, my table is set up and ready to go and damn me I don’t want to take it down.

    On a side note, years ago when my son was in 2nd grade he no longer believed in Santa. I wasn’t ready for him to grow up and insisted Santa was real, he just had to believe. Being the smart ass he is, he made quite the list and said if Santa was real he’d bring it all to him. One item on his list was a wind up tin soldier. I hunted and hunted and could not find one, this was the 90’s. I left a thoughtful note from Santa, but he didn’t buy it. I’ve never found a wind up tin soldier. I’ve found tin soldiers, but not the old fashioned kind with the key. My daughter from NC found one yesterday! It’s part of a line of retro toys on Amazon. I ordered it, I hope it gets here before Christmas😬

    I can’t decide if I want to sneak over to his house and put it in his stocking from Santa or put it under the tree from Santa or wrap it up and give it to him.

    • elliesmom says:

      Sounds like so much fun! I have Elliesdad’s grandfather’s model trains. I’m not ready to set them up by myself yet. I keep hoping my son will ask me for them, but he and his wife aren’t the ones with the kids. My dad built a train table for them in the basement of our old house. My son-in-law put his trains on it when they moved in, which is fine. I hope you and Lola have a blast. Pictures, please.

    • taw46 says:

      Somebody, from Santa, of course! Either the stocking or under the tree.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      That’s awesome!

    • lateblum says:

      That race track sounds like great fun! Also, would you rather hear about his reaction to the soldier in his stocking, or see his r3action when he opens the present?

    • DeniseVB says:

      Wind-up toy soldiers always reminds me of Laurel and Hardy’s March of the Wooden Soldiers. Nab a copy of that for him too 🙂

  6. Mothy67 says:

    School cancelled today because someone phoned in/emailed a threat. hopefully it was an idiot being an idiot and nothing more. Some kid probably blew up his life over a prank. One stupid move and now fbi is likely investigating.

    • swanspirit says:

      I hope it was just an idiot too, Tim. Even regular kids, can be mpulsive and don’t realize the consequences of their actions.

      • Mothy67 says:

        School just left a message – determined threat was not credible. Was found (reported) on social media late last night so cancelled out of caution.

        • swanspirit says:

          Oh good! I remember fake fire alarms when I was in school, back in the stone age. If the weather was nice, we thought it was an opportunity to get out of class for a while. Things ate so different now. I feel for kids these days.

          • Somebody says:

            When I was in high school this guy wanted to get out of school. He tried calling in a threat. They marched us out, went through the school and we were back inside within the hour.

            So this idiot took his shotgun and shot the transformer that fed the school. The gun wasn’t a big deal back in those days lots of guys had them on racks in their pickup trucks. Shooting the transformer worked, the utility company had to order some parts so we were out of school for a week🤣

            My high school was built in the 70’s to be energy efficient, it had no windows. This is Florida and the building was too hot, so we didn’t have school. We were supposed to go extra days at the end of the year, but none of us did.

            I couldn’t imagine a kid pulling a prank like that today. They’d be on the national news.

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  8. lyn5 says:

    Speaking of cheesy Christmas movies, I liked this one via Vudu (free with ads).

    • lateblum says:

      I saw this one last year on ION tv channel. I thought it was sweet.

      • lyn5 says:

        Fox Nation and Roku have some films too.

        • lateblum says:

          I knew that about ROKU but not FoxNation. Prime video also has many Hallmark movies. Some are free, others are rentals. Last year when I was feeling unhappy about the dearth of decent Christmas movies to get me through the stressors of the holidays as well as the “election” via ota antenna, I looked on Prime and ended up purchasing some of the movies for 99 cents when they had a special. It helped get me through the run-up to the holiday.

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  10. lateblum says:

    My son texted me this morning at 6 telling me to “read this essay”. It will explain why he’s thinking “seriously” about leaving teaching. While I offered support and an empathic ear, I did not remind him that we’d had a conversation in August when he said something similar to me. I completely understand his desire to feel like what he is doing is worthwhile and that he is respected while doing so. I also hope that he doesn’t give up on being a teacher. He is effective, well prepared, and he loves teaching as well as working with kids. He is honestly a good teacher and role model for the kids – especially in middle school.
    Evanston had an excellent school system when we moved here in the last half of the 20th century. Kids were excelling at every level. But no more. Now, with Evanston vying for the title of the “most woke city in the world”, times have changed. The district hired a supervisor who seems to be trying to change Evanston into Chicago. Yes. Chicago – the city where no one wants to send their school age children.

    That supervisor has not only eliminated teachers whose students were doing well, but has hired additional administrators who teach no one. Last school year, when the schools were closed and there was a call out from parents to re-open the schools FOR THE CHILDREN’S WELL BEING he fired off emails calling the parents racist and said they wanted to bring harm to students of color by wanting them back in classrooms!!! Parents were not welcome in live meetings, zoom meetings,nor would he meet with parents in one-on-one meetings. He claimed to receive threats and being called n-word in emails (which he never provided) and said the city was full of “white supremacists” who routinely discriminated against the black children (by wanting schools open). He also responded to those demanding that schools be reopened calling them by name and repeating they were racist and white supremacists.

    The environment is tense here. The week of Thanksgiving the schools were closed because “the teachers needed a respite” I openly derided this closure both here and in other venues. I should have recalled the conversation with my son from August. After reading the essay that I’ve linked to below, I am sorry I doubted the purpose of the school closure here. I’m still opposed to the manner in which it happened. There was seemingly little regard for the families who would feel the it the hardest.

    I have posted a few articles about the school district over the past year, so some of this may sound familiar.
    The letter/essay below is written by a teacher of long standing in the community. In fact, she might have taught my youngest daughter who attended the same school where this woman was their most recent principal.

    • Constance says:

      Instead of quitting teaching he might be happy with his profession if he worked at a private school

      • elliesmom says:

        That’s a whole different can of worms. Not always an improvement and often doesn’t pay nearly as well.

        • lateblum says:

          That is absolutely true about the pay. And the system isn’t big the way the public school system is. But there is still politics not unlike everywhere else.

      • lateblum says:

        I thought of that, Constance. We certainly have a host of private and charter schools here and nearby. I might suggest it when he’s ready to talk more. One of my closest friends here tutored him in French when he was in middle school. I thought I’d pick her brain.

  11. lateblum says:

    I’ll be out for much of the day. So I’ll miss the news and the chat. bbl

  12. Dora says:

    This explosion has gotten hardly any coverage on the news.


    FBI Investigates Explosion On LI Beach That Left Crater

    The FBI is investigating a detonation that occurred off the coast of Babylon on Sunday and left a crater, police say.

  13. lyn5 says:


  14. Dora says:

    Steve Bannon’s Jan. 6 Legal Strategy: ‘Blowing Up the Whole System’
    ByJose Pagliery/The Daily Beast

  15. lyn5 says:

    • SHV says:

      “This guy would have said the same thing about investing in German industries in the late 1930s.”
      Prescott Bush anyone???

  16. lyn5 says:

    Another crazy Demzi bitch …

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    • elliesmom says:

      Shaheen was running for the Senate in 2008 when I was working in one of the NH campaign offices for Hillary. She kept popping in to get Hillary’s campaign workers to do things for her. When we were closing up the office, she had left behind some stuff, and one of us called her to ask her to send someone to pick it up. She said we should bring it ourselves when we started to work for her. No invitation. Just an assumption. Most of us who cared enough to stick around and clean the place up because it was our mess were from MA, and we’d had enough of her (and Hillary) so we just put her signage and other junk in the dumpster along with Hillary’s.

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    The leftist media cult can’t quit Trump.

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    • jadzia1971 says:

      I’m fine with men who say that the decision is none of their business (and I say this as somebody who was NOT pro-choice even when I was a leftist). I’ve always been creeped out by men who are gung-ho activists on the issue because 99% of the time their motivation seemed either to be a) to get laid (because so feminist!) or b) to cut and run guilt-free in the event of an accident.

  23. lyn5 says:

    LOL. h/t Angie

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  25. lyn5 says:

    Trump’s signed book is sold out. The unsigned book can be ordered.

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    We thank you for your incredible support! As you might be aware, in Joe Biden’s America gas prices have gone up, food prices have gone up, and there are shortages of every product –including paper.

    President Trump’s newest book has already sold over one hundred thousand copies, additional copies are currently being reprinted.

    If you place your order after December 2nd, 2021, your book will arrive in January of 2022. In the meantime, for all those who do place an order, President Trump will mail you a Christmas card that will arrive at your home in time for Christmas.

    For those who wish to give Our Journey Together as a Christmas gift, the card will indicate your order has been placed and your book is on its way to you in the near future. As soon as the book becomes available, you will be among the first to receive your copy.

    • jadzia1971 says:

      So rosacea (treated by the topical ivermectin I’ve been taking for literally 10 years) and my miserable allergies have saved me all this time? It is a little surprising (if one believes the “case” numbers, which I’m not sure I do) that I’ve (maybe) dodged the coof for almost two years given that I’ve got FIVE KIDS IN SCHOOL.

    • lateblum says:

      Oh how I hope this is true! My sneezing and runny nose and coughs have been so bothersome for years. It would be such a gift if this is what saves me from The Virus.

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