The Rest Of The Story


(NOTE: As you read this post, imagine you are hearing the voice of Paul Harvey.)

Let’s begin today with this spittle-flecked article by John Cole at Buffoon Juice:

Today’s Biggest Asshole

This guy:

Last month, a Madison, WI, police officer shot and killed Tony Terrell Robinson Jr., an unarmed 19-year-old. The city’s chief of police has compared the case to death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, MO.

On Wednesday, the Wisconsin-based Devil’s Advocates Radio Network reported that Robinson’s surviving roommate, Anthony M. Limon, had received an eviction notice, giving him five days to vacate their Madison apartment or pay their three-days-late rent and $1,192.15 for “bio-hazard cleanup” for removal of Robinson’s blood from the apartment. The notice was addressed to Limon and his mother, whose name also appears on the lease.

The notice was sent by landlord Ray A. Peterson. Peterson told Devil’s Advocates co-host Mike Crute that he believed it appropriate to bill Limon for the bio-hazard removal because Robinson’s name did not appear on the lease.

Ray A. Peterson, a heartfelt FUCK YOU from all of us here at Balloon Juice.

To learn more we must journey over to ThinkProgress:

In an interview with ThinkProgress, Peterson confirmed the report and argued that he was obligated to treat all tenants equally to avoid potentially violating non-discrimination laws. “If we gave them special privileges, it could be a real discrimination problem,” he explained. “In order to stay in business we have to treat the laws equally and all lessees equally.” He noted that an attorney for the tenants had indicated they intend to vacate without waiting to be evicted, which he termed a “delightful message.” Regarding the tragic death of Robinson, Peterson added, “We certainly feel bad about it.”

Brenda K. Konkel, the executive director of the Madison-based Tenant Resource Center told ThinkProgress that Peterson was under no legal obligation to evict Limon or charge him for the blood removal. “There is no law like that,” she explained, and while “he has to treat everyone the same in similar circumstances,” there would only be a legal issue if someone of a different protected class were also to be killed in one of his apartments by the police and he treated the cases differently.

In 1999, Peterson was convicted of violating a city ordinance after disconnecting the electricity and heat for an occupied dwelling.

Damn all greedy slumlords! How dare he do such a thing!

And now the rest of the story:

Tony Terrell Robinson was born into poverty and spent the last moments of his life bleeding from a gunshot wound, surrounded by no one but local police officers on the porch of his shared apartment.

At around 6.30pm last Friday, Madison police officer Matt Kenny forced entry into the house where Robinson had been living for the past few months with two of his friends. He was responding to a series of 911 calls about a young man behaving erratically, possibly violently. Shots were fired. A few minutes later, a witness says she saw officer Kenny and another officer dragging the limp, bloody body of the biracial 19-year-old out on to the porch.

The details of what actually happened that night are only now starting to emerge. The Guardian has spoken to witnesses who say hallucinogenic drugs played a role in Robinson’s strange behavior that night, and that at least one of the people who called 911 was a friend reaching out to police in the hope they would come to help Robinson deal with the episode.

Police say Robinson was acting violently before the shooting, and had knocked Kenny to the ground before he was shot.

Meanwhile, the community has erupted in protest, as young people marching under the banner of the Black Lives Matter movement again question why lethal force had to be used against a young person of color who had no weapon himself. They are describing the death as murder, and calling for justice to be served.


Earlier in the day Robinson had been out with a small group and had eaten magic mushrooms, according to a friend who was present at the time.

The friend, who had known Robinson for five years and whom the Guardian has chosen not to identify, said Robinson was inexperienced with hallucinogens and had consumed a large quantity.


According to radio audio posted online in the days after the incident, the first 911 call came in around 6.30pm. The police dispatcher describes Robinson as “yelling and jumping in front of cars”, later adding: “Tony hit one of his friends … no weapons seen.” It is unclear if the audio has been edited, but it appears that two further 911 calls were made reporting an assault within the two subsequent minutes. An anonymous witness has since come forward to local TV news alleging he had been punched by Robinson outside a restaurant opposite the apartment.

The audio suggests that Robinson then returned to the apartment, with Kenny arriving at the scene within about four minutes of Limon’s initial call.


What happened next remains unclear, but according to the police account the officer heard a “disturbance” inside the apartment and forced entry.

Both Ivy and other sources with knowledge of events told the Guardian that no one else was present in the apartment at that time, raising questions about the nature of the disturbance heard before entry was forced.

The police account states that Kenny was assaulted before he opened fire, with Madison police chief Mike Koval telling reporters that the officer was knocked to the ground after a blow to the head. The dispatch audio indicates just 18 seconds elapsed in the time between his arrival and shots being heard.


The massive outpouring of anger and love for Robinson in the days since his death contrast starkly with the challenges that he faced since his earliest days. His mother was only 17 when she gave birth to him, and his father was largely absent, in and out of prison for much of Tony’s childhood.

“Terrell grew up with no structure,” Turin Carter, his 24-year-old uncle, told the Guardian, explaining that little things such as regular meal times “help mold the child’s identity and help him know right from wrong”.


In his early teens, Carter says, Robinson effectively became the man of the house. But the instability and the ordinary angst of adolescence were compounded by changing three different high schools before he graduated from Sun Prairie high school, in another largely white community outside of Madison.

Nearly half of Madison’s African American students fail to graduate on time there, but Robinson finished early.

But in April , Robinson participated in a home invasion along with four others. In December, he was sentenced to three years’ probation, and people close to him say he had committed to turning his life around, discussing plans to attend community college and a potential move to New York, where he could be closer to Carter.

Tony Terrell Robinson Jr

Tony Terrell Robinson Jr

Well I guess the comparison to the Michael Brown case was appropriate. Trayvon Martin too.

Nowhere in any of the stories I read was there any mention of Robinson ever holding a job. It’s not clear how he supported himself, and the same can be said for his roommates. I will not speculate. The official investigation report is still pending.

So what does all this have to do with landlord Ray A. Peterson?

He owns the property where Robinson was apparently living when he was shot. Robinson wasn’t on the lease and it is unclear whether Peterson even knew that Robinson had been staying there.

The rent was due on the 21st of March but wasn’t paid so on the 24th Peterson sent out a 5-day notice to quit or pay rent. This is standard in most or all states. California even has approved forms. If the tenant doesn’t pay within 5 days the landlord can begin eviction proceedings. The tenant can still stay in the apartment without paying rent for a few more weeks before the sheriff shows up to physically evict him from the premises.

In this case the tenants were Anthony M. Limon and Tamara Herrera, so that’s whose names show up on the notice. This is a breach of contract action and the only contract is between the landlord and tenants. Standard practice here in California is to include “Does 1-10” in the court papers to cover additional occupants.

Generally the tenant is responsible for damage to the apartment during the tenancy. Is the landlord supposed to just eat the cost? What did he do besides own the place and rent it out? I’m guessing that Peterson isn’t some rich slumlord with lots of rentals because he’s handling this himself. He’s probably just some guy who owns a few rental properties as an investment.

Good luck renting that place out again after someone was killed inside of there.

But don’t worry, The tenants won’t have to pay any money if they don’t want to. Deadbeat tenants are typically written off as a loss because you can’t collect blood from a turnip. It’s part of the cost of doing business, and landlords just adjust the rents and deposits of other people to cover it.

And now you know the rest of the story.

Good day!



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154 Responses to The Rest Of The Story

  1. Myiq2xu says:

  2. Myiq2xu says:

    Tucker has conjunctivitis, which is inflammation of the tissue next to the eye. There are several possible causes.

    It’s getting worse so I’m taking him in to see the vet this morning.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Wow, Crowder’s gotten over 300k views since last night, when I first saw it he only had 300. I wish Pence watched this video before he caved to the fauxrage, RFTA would protect the Muslim bakers too. But wait. Why don’t the radical LGBT activists go after these bakers too? As Steven pointed out the bakers all advertised custom cakes, I wonder if they would make one for his dog’s birthday with a photo and all ? Or Jesus for Easter?

      • 49erDweet says:

        Caving politicians need to be shamed, shamed and reshamed. Idiots prove the point that office holders generally are the worst possible policy makers, ergo less government is better.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Look and no protesters. 😆

  3. Lulu says:

    The cops and the landlord are supposed to make exceptions because “Robinson was inexperienced with hallucinogens and had consumed a large quantity.” Why wasn’t everyone just patient and understanding while he was learning how to ingest shrooms and running in traffic, knocking people in the head and wrestling with a cop for his gun.

    Speaking of “boys” going through new situations that people don’t understand: The biracial sons of the Canadian consulate in Miami, shot up a house, killed a guy who they were trying to steal marijuana from ($5000 worth), the older of the two (age 17 died in the shoot-out too) and then the 15 year old threatened to shoot a homicide detective in the head. A mean nasty judge refused to let him out on bail or be tried in Canada where mom has lots of political connections. They had been in Miami since February. Of this year! Their mother, the consulate, is a Fulbright scholar and both of her sons are said to be very intelligent.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      His friend took off and left him for the cops to deal with.

      • Lulu says:

        My guess is that he didn’t have any friends because he was an asshole. They hung out when he had money. He had also probably been kicked out of the mom house until the cop killed him then he was an adored son again. It is a sad cycle that happens everywhere. How the public and law enforcement is supposed to be clairvoyant and just know who is a special case to be allowed to rampage because of their sad drug circumstances and who isn’t has not been made clear but somehow is supposed to be done. The “boys” in Miami were driving around in drug slums in a black BMW with diplomatic plates so money wasn’t a problem with them . But everyone was supposed to know they were sweet good boys while they were waving guns around.

        • Myiq2xu says:

          My sympathy is with the cops. They responded to a call and found a crazy man who attacked them. That would scare the shit out of anybody.

          • DeniseVB says:

            I think that’s why this story isn’t getting legs in the #SharptonHandsUpDontShoot crowd, people are getting sick of the cop bashing before we have all the facts.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      In my younger days I was around people who took acid. They always made sure there were some people around to keep them out of trouble. Usually it was me, because I was too scared to try the stuff.

    • leslie says:

      Chuy Garcia should’ve heard about this story before the last mayoral “debate”. The PBS moderator asked him a question similar to MO’s nasty comment about Hillary being unable to keep her “house” in order while FLOTUS. The moderator said to Chuy, “Your son joined a gang when he was a teen. How can you expect to manage the problems of crime in Chicago, if you couldn’t even keep your own son out of a gang?”
      Seriously, it was the M O D E R A T O R who posed that question – and another similar one. (Of course, there was a twitter storm as well as email in response and newspaper and tv and radio station opinions condemned this line of questions. The audience present at the debate boo-ed. And even Rahm interrupted saying he thought the questions were “out of line”. ) If only Chuy had known about this story…
      I must say his responses were very sweet, and ultimately he said – to the moderator – “I wish I could introduce you to my son. He turned his life around and I’m very proud of him.”

    • 49erDweet says:

      Does anyone else besides mom think they were smart? If he were convicted in Canada he’d loose library privileges for three months, minimum.

  4. Dora says:

    Someone is enjoying the lunches. Oink. Oink.


    Michelle Obama’s School Lunches Going to the Pigs

    • Myiq2xu says:

      When I was a kid they used to serve spinach about once a week. I doubt if any kid ate that stuff except on a dare. They threw it out.

      I never ate that nasty crap.

      • Lulu says:

        Where I lived it was turnip greens. The whole school smelled like you know what. What kid eats something that smells like that? But I still like fish sticks and ketchup!

        • Myiq2xu says:

          The veggie I hate the most is Brussels sprout. They make me vomit.

          My step-dad loved them and made them frequently.

          • 49erDweet says:

            So now we know what veggies to use when we restock the cellar.

          • Somebody says:

            I love Brussels sprouts, but my family doesn’t. There is only one way I can cook them that they will eat them. I boil them until soft, cool slightly and cut in half. Then I fry up a bunch of bacon, crumble it and set aside. Then I saute some shallots or onion if I don’t have shallots. Once the shallots start to get tender, after a minute or two, I add some garlic and then the sprouts and saute them in the bacon fat. Also some seasoning….salt, pepper, a little thyme, sometimes a little Italian seasoning. I saute it all for about 2-3 minutes (shallots should be tender, sprouts lightly brown on edges) then I add Parmesan cheese and the bacon and serve.

            That is the ONLY way my family will eat Brussels sprouts and it kind of makes them unhealthy with all that bacon and such. Soooooo I rarely make them, but if I go to a restaurant that serves them I’ll get them because again, personally I like them. I like them just boiled with a little salt and pepper, my family goes into convulsions and begins to gag if I try to serve them that way at home.

            Hahaha, my family is going to be angry with you Klown and they don’t even know you!! You just jogged my memory, I think I’ll buy some Brussels sprouts and serve them on Easter for lunch. I’ll be sure and tell them you reminded me how much I like them, LOL! Not to worry, there will be so many dishes nobody will be forced to eat them…..but I can enjoy them!!

      • Dora says:

        You are in the majority. I have always loved spinach and I used to wonder why so many kids hated it. Still don’t know. 🙂

        • Lulu says:

          I like it now but when I was a kid it was boiled and slimy. I would throw up if made to eat it and any cooked greens. I wouldn’t eat a bunch of stuff but I would eat fried oysters and any kind of fish. This was considered odd then.

        • Myiq2xu says:

          I have never seen cooked spinach on the menu at a restaurant. Fresh spinach in salad looks and tastes different.

          • thewizardofroz says:

            You’ve never been to a steakhouse? Creamed spinach is on the menu at just about every steakhouse we’ve been to.

            Roz in NJ/NYC

          • elliesmom says:

            I love raw spinach in a salad, but I also like to make creamed spinach. Butter, onions garlic, and cream can make anything taste good.

          • Somebody says:

            Mimi’s serves a sauteed spinach with a little garlic and lemon that is really good. I like spinach too, in salads, sauteed, creamed, spinach souffle, and I also sometimes make an Italian spinach ricotta cheese dish. I’ll eat plain boiled spinach with a little butter, but it’s not my favorite.

        • piper says:

          Mom always served us spinach once or twice a week because it was healthy according to the nutrition experts. How anyone could consider a helping of overcooked slimy spinach to be good for you had to be slightly ?????? On a dare when I was 21 I ordered a spinach salad in a restaurant and actually liked it. Who knew there were other ways to serve the greens besides boiling.
          Before you say anything about my dissing Mom, I’ll tell you she was a bit ??????. A wonderful baker but a terrible cook.

        • 49erDweet says:

          I grew up as we were slooooowly coming out of the depression. My mom did wonderful things to spinach, turnip greens, Brussels sprouts and Swiss Chard. And for desert we’d have gleanings from the Lima bean fields near Buena Park. With oleo.

        • mcnorman says:

          Because the cafeteria workers never served fresh spinach. They used the canned stuff and it was smelling like the bathroom after the second lunch period. LOL

        • lizzy says:

          I think part of the problem may be that the spinach was canned. I always liked frozen or fresh spinach but canned was yellow, gray green and soggy from the processing I did not like it. I don’t know if things have changed in the last fifty years, but cafeteria spinach was awful.

      • Constance says:

        One time my camp served stewed prunes with lunch. Most kids hated them but not me. I ate most of the prunes meant for our table. That was a memorable experience!

  5. Dora says:

    Religious Liberty and the Left’s End Game

    Conservatives need to begin going on offense when talking about the RFRA. We need to clearly state that opposition to it is support of state-sanctioned coercion in all its many forms.

    • Lulu says:

      The pizza joint GoFundMe is at $489,000. Probably a half mil by 8:00 am. Righty journos and pols may have noticed something funny going on with the public. They are sick of this shit!

      • DeniseVB says:

        Started by one of Dana Loesch’s radio staffers to offset the business’ losses while they closed down. I think the original goal was 25k. I think Megyn picked up on it, then just saw an interview on Fox and Friends. The power of outrage is a strong one. Good.

        • leslie says:

          The power of outrage is a strong one.

          I agree. I think that Megyn’s audience – and other Fox night time viewers probably were influenced and contributed because I got home from work last night just as Megyn was talking about the fund. I went to the website and within minutes the total jumped thousands of dollars. Last time I looked before this morning, it had risen by tens of thousands.

  6. Myiq2xu says:

    • DeniseVB says:

      Falsely reporting ? Any liability to that? It did bring unnecessary emotional harm to the pizza family, though I rather blame trumped up fauxrage and the Yelp Commandos. Idiots.

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Miley goes after (via Twitter natch) Sen Cotton. Do any of her fans know who Sen Cotton is? Does Miley even have any fans left?

  8. Myiq2xu says:

    That’s like the KKK having a Minority Outreach office.

    • DeniseVB says:

      The Fair Tax movement is right, we don’t need no stinkin’ IRS. I’m still reeling that Holder let Lerner off the hook. As Gutfeld usually screams: WHERE’S OUR WOODWARD AND BERNSTEIN !!!??

  9. Myiq2xu says:

  10. HELENK3 says:

    Benghazi- Bergdahl – and the bomb. backtrack’s track record not so good

    • piper says:

      “Recent statements from United Nations officials, that Iran is already blocking their existing efforts to keep track of what is going on in their nuclear program, should tell anyone who does not already know it that any agreement with Iran will be utterly worthless in practice. It doesn’t matter what the terms of the agreement are, if Iran can cheat.
      “It is amazing — indeed, staggering — that so few Americans are talking about what it would mean for the world’s biggest sponsor of international terrorism, Iran, to have nuclear bombs, and to be developing intercontinental missiles that can deliver them far beyond the Middle East. …
      “The road to World War II was strewn with arms control agreements on paper that aggressor nations ignored in practice. But those agreements lulled the democracies into a false sense of security that led them to cut back on military spending while their enemies were building up the military forces to attack them.” — Thomas Sowell, Hoover Institution

  11. piper says:

    Our New National Pasttime from those Severely Deprived Attention Wh*********

  12. mothy67 says:

    I have done mushtooms a number of times with people of very varied dispositions It is nothing like LSD. Never saw anyone freak out even mildly. I am inclined to believe that if all he took were those he may have had a psychizophrenic break triggered by the shrooms. Right age. No expert but I have been to a few Dead shows.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Sneaking booze from my parents liquor cabinet was about as rebellious as I got.

    • Myiq2xu says:

      The only people I ever heard of freaking out were kinda damaged to start with.

      • mothy67 says:

        I just did a few searches as my recollection was just a really good mellow time but several articles said the mental health and physical surroindings csn effect the trip.
        Interestingly there are claims that it can provide immediate and months long cure for OCD.

  13. Myiq2xu says:


    First of all, I drank too much whiskey last night. I was hoping it would make me sleepy but all it did was get me really drunk. So finally I laid down and tried to sleep/pass-out.

    I thought I was all alone in my room. Apparently Taggart managed to sneak in and hide. Imagine someone tickling your feet while you sleep with really soft furry mittens. Now imagine kicking at them in the darkenss while you are semi-conscious to make them stop. Lastly, imagine them biting your feet every time you try to kick them. Lather, rinse, repeat for about 1/2-1 hour.

  14. Myiq2xu says:

    • mothy67 says:

      He and his ilk are why I am tempted to throw in a few just for the pleasure of annoying them. Confess I am highly amused that the special snowflakes don’t get why people are donating knowing they have far exceeded goal. Twitter tirade might add a few more grand. I hope he keeps it up.

  15. swanspirit says:

    “To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” – Thomas Paine, The American Crisis

    • DeniseVB says:

      I think this is why Obama ignores the Constitution, the Founding Fathers were trying to protect the country from buffoons like him. Our biggest problem now, are those who support Obama …. or afraid to speak out against him. And the media.

  16. DeniseVB says:

    This is about right……I’m at the point if Putin invaded our country right now I would welcome them as liberators 😉

  17. Myiq2xu says:

    This guy thinks the pizza shop owners planned this whole thing:

    • Constance says:

      The thing that I couldn’t get past is what gay couple serves pizza at their wedding? I’m guessing that’s never happened even in San Francisco.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Never been to a straight wedding that served pizza either. Not even after a Vegas or JP officiated one.

      • Lulu says:

        The pizza joint doesn’t cater. ANYTHING. I don’t know why they can’t understand this. If a a gay couple wanted to pick up a few pies on their way to the wedding I’m pretty sure they would bake them but they don’t CATER which the mob doesn’t seem to know the meaning.

    • swanspirit says:

      Right!! That is what the guy at JC’s blog said too… !! There is fanaticism, and then there is being disconnected from reality.

  18. mcnorman says:

    Who knew Obama had so many sons?

  19. DeniseVB says:

    Don’t you hate it when you don’t know whether to trust your own President……or an Evil Empire?

  20. Myiq2xu says:

    2,983,158 hits

  21. lyn says:


    • lyn says:

      I’m stuck in the dungeon.

    • mothy67 says:

      Such jackasses this behavior will sustain the campaign. I read that and I consider donating. Who is this creep to dictate to whom I give my money. They created this not a small time shop owner.

    • swanspirit says:

      So why didn’t someone start a GoFundMe page for the families? No one was stopping anyone. These people are not in their right minds , to even make that comparison.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Sandy Hook was a random crazy kid doing mass murder. Horrible and evil. The families can sue the shit out of the school, the government, and anyone else they can find. Donations from UW are nice to handle the immediate disaster, but aren’t meant to compensate. On the other hand the pizza place was destroyed on purpose by hateful bigots and others for political/social purposes. There is probably no one they can sue to get their lives back. And UW is not going to give them a penny. So ordinary citizens are stepping in to help remedy the injustice.

      What makes these people mad is their concerted effort to destroy people who are perceived to have different views is not going as planned. Their weapons are being nullified. What scares them is these weapons of oppression is all they have, and if they can be countered, they have nothing, they have no power.

      • swanspirit says:

        Exactly! They wanted these innocent people to be PUNISHED for their perceived “crime”. True freedom scares the crap out of the control freaks.

      • DeniseVB says:

        In my waning weeks/days with the Dkos and DU communities, they were beginning to eat each other too. “if you’re not with us, the hell with you” were the parting words to many who escaped those plantations. Some stayed and rolled over. Control baby!

      • 1539days says:

        Businesses need money to operate. Money solves very few problems for a family who lose a child.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Shannon is the founder of Moms Against Guns or something like that. She’s probably raising money for herself though 😉

  22. Myiq2xu says:

  23. lyn says:

    It figures.

    • DeniseVB says:

      It’s not that he’s that popular, it’s that security for him is so stupid. I think they require major (4 lanes or more) roads to shutdown in both directions, as they did in my area during his last campaign through here in ’12.

      On the other hand, Mitt held a rally at an old rural airport (it’s a museum now) about a 20 mile 2-lane trip from my house. Mitt was about an hour late that day since he got caught in traffic ! He walked to the event with some aides the last few miles as did most of the attendees who just abandoned their cars!

  24. Myiq2xu says:

  25. Dora says:

    Obama offering free flights, education, food stamps, medical care and living expenses to “refugees” from Central America

  26. Myiq2xu says:

  27. Myiq2xu says:

    • SHV says:

      IN today’s era of spin the wheel of protected group weekly outrage, the manipulated special snowflakes aren’t told that, then Congressman Schumer introduced RFRA in the House and it was passed by unanimous vote. Ted Kennedy introduced the Senate bill. RFRA was a progressive cause celebre in the early 90’s. It was in reaction to the evil Scalia and SCOTUS opinion in “Employment Division v. Smith”. Then the Progs cause was to protect Native American’s religion.

  28. Dora says:

    Ayatollah Khamenei On Iran Deal: We Have Triumphed Over Our Enemies

    Ayatollah Khamenei’s Arabic Twitter account is celebrating victory over their enemies, the U.S., after the “framework of a deal” was announced yesterday.

  29. Myiq2xu says:

    • DandyTIger says:

      “I hope that one day, progressives will learn how to accept people different from themselves.”

      Hahahahaha. {{falls to floor laughing}}

  30. votermom says:

  31. DeniseVB says:

    Oh. Dear. God. Hoping myiq jumps in on this one 😀

  32. HELENK3 says:

    from drudge report

    Record 12,202,000 Blacks Not In Labor Force…
    Record 56,131,000 Women…
    January, February jobs numbers revised down dramatically…
    Fed Cuts Growth Forecast to ZERO…

    about that backtrack economy

    • Somebody says:

      All of that on top of the multiple foreign policy disasters, the world is on fire and the Iran deal is a deal with the devil. Yet somehow the asshole’s approval ratings still hover around 50% WTF?

      • DeniseVB says:

        I think Jimmah and GWB even hit the 20s/30s and they weren’t nearly as bad as Pretzeldent Obama.

      • piper says:

        Always look at name of polling company, questions asked, respondents and the fine print. Too many people including me rarely answer the phone if number is unknown – caller ID is a must given the number of unwanted calls that are made. Also other people only have cell phones instead of landlines.

        • piper says:

          Other considerations – people who may have hearing impairments like the elderly may respond in the affirmative like my mother did from time to time. And there are others who give a heads-up due to joyous holiday feelings.

    • lizzy says:

      BELIEVE those Obama economic numbers. Good thing the markets are closed for Good Friday!

  33. Dora says:

    Mission Accomplished!

  34. HELENK3 says:

    way off topic


    blood moon eclipse

  35. 49erDweet says:

    A huge chain grocery store (Klown has the same chain in his town) is just down the road from us, but we mainly use it for pharmacy and single items. They keep rearranging the aisles and it’s hard to remember from yr 2 yr where odd things are kept, and low vision shopping is an adventure. So my honey calls me when I’m out to pick up a basic cooking ingredient. I swing by Nob Hill all the while wondering where in the huge cavern it might be? OK. My mind tells me its a baking item, so I find that section and scoop up a box of baking soda, pay, and head home. Part way home the light dawns, I flip a u-ey, go back to to the store and buy baking POWDER! Genius! Can’t remember which she wanted, but I’m covered, yeah?
    Well today I’m going back and buying the cornstarch she really wanted. Sigh.

    • piper says:

      Good man. I used to ask my dh to repeat my directions / instructions as he was given to inattentiveness especially when listening to the radio or resolving a work issue in his mind.

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